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Allan Songer
07-14-2008, 02:18 PM
The last thing I need to do on the rear end of my '56 is to install the shocks. The car came with no shocks at all, but I have been able to find the correct shock mounting bolts from a vendor. Now I am up against finding the metal sleeves that go in the bushing. I thought for sure I could get them at your basic parts store, but having checked at NAPA, Pep Boys and Auto Zone I have come up EMPTY. I also went on line and couldn't find them and also checked in the McMaster Carr catalog.

I know I can make them, but that seems a bit excessive! If any of you know where I can track them down I'd really appreciate it!

N8N
07-14-2008, 02:33 PM
Allan,

if worse comes to worse, you're looking for 524833 sleeves 7/16 I.D. 5/8 O.D. 1-1/4 long. (this is also on the "shocks" page on my web site.) If you have a chop saw and can find tubing the right o.d. and i.d. you're set. I know that I got similar sleeves for the rear sway bar bushings from Dave Thibeault and I imagine that the shock bushings would be cut from the same steel tubing stock just a different length. Would be worth a phone call at least.

Do you have the spacers as well? you'll need one 1/2" thick and one 1/4" thick for each shock.

good luck

nate

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Allan Songer
07-14-2008, 02:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

Allan,

if worse comes to worse, you're looking for 524833 sleeves 7/16 I.D. 5/8 O.D. 1-1/4 long. (this is also on the "shocks" page on my web site.) If you have a chop saw and can find tubing the right o.d. and i.d. you're set. I know that I got similar sleeves for the rear sway bar bushings from Dave Thibeault and I imagine that the shock bushings would be cut from the same steel tubing stock just a different length. Would be worth a phone call at least.

Do you have the spacers as well? you'll need one 1/2" thick and one 1/4" thick for each shock.

good luck

nate

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Yeah, I have the correct factory spacers. Guess I'll try to hunt down the tubing and make my own . . .

Tom B
07-14-2008, 04:05 PM
I needed one, wound up bending it out of sheet metal.

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Allan Songer
07-14-2008, 04:10 PM
McMaster-Carr has sleeve bearings in impregnated bronze in this size for $1.14 each. I just ordered them and they'll be here in the morning (we get just about daily free delivery from them). Should work fine.

N8N
07-14-2008, 04:20 PM
they also have a drill bushing that might work p/n 8491A413 (yes it's slow here today) also a 6' length of tubing that will provide you with a lifetime of spacers <G> 89955K58

finally for the lower shock mount I think that the mount hardware that comes with the Gabriel shocks might work as is although a) I have not tried it as I've always been able to scrounge the correct hardware and b) you'll still need the sleeves for the upper.

The stock bushing appears that it was rolled out of sheet (there's an unwelded seam in it,) so if you can find some 3/32 steel you could just roll it around a 7/16" bolt (or drill bit, piece of drill rod, etc.) and that should work as well.

Of course, we're talking about a part that will never be seen....

nate

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Alan
07-14-2008, 04:38 PM
Monroe has them in their shock kits.

jlmccuan
07-14-2008, 08:23 PM
I'm not sure the oillite bronze bushings will stand up to the constant impact in your application. Maybe someone else can comment, but with only the rubber backing up the powdered bronze, I think they'll egg shape and crack. The rubber in the shock bushing may be affected by the lubricant as well. As always, YMMV

Jim
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Allan Songer
07-14-2008, 09:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by jlmccuan

I'm not sure the oillite bronze bushings will stand up to the constant impact in your application. Maybe someone else can comment, but with only the rubber backing up the powdered bronze, I think they'll egg shape and crack. The rubber in the shock bushing may be affected by the lubricant as well. As always, YMMV

Jim



I was wondering that myself. I don't think the rubber will be a problem, but the sleeves might be. I added four of the steel drill bushings to the order in time for tomorrow's delivery truck. What the heck--they were only NINE DOLLARS EACH--just a drop in the bucket!

N8N
07-15-2008, 01:00 AM
You will likely have the most precisely located and mounted Studebaker rear shocks ever :)

I hope you're going to put something appropriate like some Bilsteins or Konis on those precision shock mount bushings. Wasting those fine bushings on some plain old shocks would be sacrelige :P

nate

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Allan Songer
07-15-2008, 01:16 AM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

You will likely have the most precisely located and mounted Studebaker rear shocks ever :)

I hope you're going to put something appropriate like some Bilsteins or Konis on those precision shock mount bushings. Wasting those fine bushings on some plain old shocks would be sacrelige :P

nate

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Nah--just some good old NAFTA "hecho en Mexico" Gabriels.

Alan
07-15-2008, 11:17 AM
Or you could have given me the exact dimensions and I could have made you ones out of stainless steel. But much cheaper the Monroe kits.

r1lark
07-15-2008, 05:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by Allan Songer

The last thing I need to do on the rear end of my '56 is to install the shocks. The car came with no shocks at all, but I have been able to find the correct shock mounting bolts from a vendor. Now I am up against finding the metal sleeves that go in the bushing. I thought for sure I could get them at your basic parts store, but having checked at NAPA, Pep Boys and Auto Zone I have come up EMPTY. I also went on line and couldn't find them and also checked in the McMaster Carr catalog.

I know I can make them, but that seems a bit excessive! If any of you know where I can track them down I'd really appreciate it!


Alan,

I always save the inner sleeves from the rear spring bushings when I replace them. These are long sleeves that can be cut down and used in other places. Just the other night a couple got cut down to make sleeves for the rear sway bar bushings for my '63 Daytona.

Without finding some rear shocks and measuring them, I'm not positive that these sleeves are the same wall thickness, but there is a better than average chance they are.

Hope this helps. Sorry for the late response, but I had not looked at this thread until today.

Paul
Winston-Salem NC