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mbstude
11-01-2006, 08:10 AM
My grandad told me that earlier this week he was delivering a load of sand to a job site in the '51 2R16 Dump Truck I won in the raffle and traded him for the Scotsman PU. He said that suddenly the engine
started to rattle[:0](245 Big 6) and then started to knock.[xx(] It's either a rod or the timing gear may be stripped. (That happened to the Scotsman PU. We thought it was a rod, but we replaced the timing gear and the little motor's never ran so good) My grandad's gonna pull the pan and see what the problem is. Hopefully we'll get lucky and it won't be anything too serious.[:I] But, if it is, he has another big 6 destined for the fire truck, but it's a long ways down the list of projects.[^] Now I'll bet that most of you are REALLY glad you didn't win it! :D

Note: I corrected the spelling in the title. ;)

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stude53
11-01-2006, 09:27 AM
Matt,
Are you kidding?

Anyone that bought tickets, and a lot who didn't, would love to have that truck, when all it may need is an engine.

You and the other Georgia members that worked on her did a great job.

And Grandpa still got a heckofa good deal on the trade!

[img=left]http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j259/stude53/studesmall2.jpg[/img=left]Bob Feaganes (stude53)
53 Starliner Hardtop
Newton Grove, NC

stude53
11-01-2006, 09:27 AM
Matt,
Are you kidding?

Anyone that bought tickets, and a lot who didn't, would love to have that truck, when all it may need is an engine.

You and the other Georgia members that worked on her did a great job.

And Grandpa still got a heckofa good deal on the trade!

[img=left]http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j259/stude53/studesmall2.jpg[/img=left]Bob Feaganes (stude53)
53 Starliner Hardtop
Newton Grove, NC

Roscomacaw
11-01-2006, 10:26 AM
I'd have been happy to win it WITHOUT an engine!:D

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
11-01-2006, 10:26 AM
I'd have been happy to win it WITHOUT an engine!:D

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

N8N
11-01-2006, 10:28 AM
ayup, it sucks that it grenaded but I will gladly take any truck with a solid body and functional brakes whether or not it has an engine installed!

nate

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N8N
11-01-2006, 10:28 AM
ayup, it sucks that it grenaded but I will gladly take any truck with a solid body and functional brakes whether or not it has an engine installed!

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
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Guido
11-01-2006, 10:55 AM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

ayup, it sucks that it grenaded but I will gladly take any truck with a solid body and functional brakes whether or not it has an engine installed!
Nate,

You sound like the perfect next owner of my 1962 7E7 Champ pickup. It is from southern California and has a 259 4V and a 4 speed transmission. It does have non stock wheels and an aftermarket steering wheel. I would guess that I am around 3 hours from you. If you are interested let me know and I can send you a link to a bunch of pictures I put up on the 'net. I am looking to get my investment of $3500 out of it.

If you need a bigger truck, i can hook you up also!

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
11-01-2006, 10:55 AM
quote:Originally posted by N8N

ayup, it sucks that it grenaded but I will gladly take any truck with a solid body and functional brakes whether or not it has an engine installed!
Nate,

You sound like the perfect next owner of my 1962 7E7 Champ pickup. It is from southern California and has a 259 4V and a 4 speed transmission. It does have non stock wheels and an aftermarket steering wheel. I would guess that I am around 3 hours from you. If you are interested let me know and I can send you a link to a bunch of pictures I put up on the 'net. I am looking to get my investment of $3500 out of it.

If you need a bigger truck, i can hook you up also!

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

N8N
11-01-2006, 11:55 AM
Gary,

sounds good to me, IIRC you are near Richmond? that's more like 2 hours if that. But sadly that's way out of my price range for the forseeable future. I am kind of halfheartedly looking for a truck right now, doesn't have to be a Stude, just something functional to haul stuff around in. Preferably not too big so I can park it in my driveway without taking up too much space. Was hoping for something old and cool but like I said I am only half looking because of financial constraints :(

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
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N8N
11-01-2006, 11:55 AM
Gary,

sounds good to me, IIRC you are near Richmond? that's more like 2 hours if that. But sadly that's way out of my price range for the forseeable future. I am kind of halfheartedly looking for a truck right now, doesn't have to be a Stude, just something functional to haul stuff around in. Preferably not too big so I can park it in my driveway without taking up too much space. Was hoping for something old and cool but like I said I am only half looking because of financial constraints :(

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://home.comcast.net/~njnagel

Guido
11-01-2006, 12:56 PM
Nate,

I am in the Richmond suburbs, but my treasures are stored west of town. You would have been a candidate for a couple of '63 T cabs I sold earlier in the year to a fellow in West Virginia.

However, lets try this. I have a '57 3E5 1/2 ton pickup that is currently without an engine and transmission (and I suspect brakes). Sure it has a bit of rust in the front fenters, but if you have a motor and tranny it could be low cost transportation. I would like $650 for it, but I have been known to dicker.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
11-01-2006, 12:56 PM
Nate,

I am in the Richmond suburbs, but my treasures are stored west of town. You would have been a candidate for a couple of '63 T cabs I sold earlier in the year to a fellow in West Virginia.

However, lets try this. I have a '57 3E5 1/2 ton pickup that is currently without an engine and transmission (and I suspect brakes). Sure it has a bit of rust in the front fenters, but if you have a motor and tranny it could be low cost transportation. I would like $650 for it, but I have been known to dicker.

Gary

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

studeclunker
11-01-2006, 01:00 PM
As I recall, you won that dump truck in a raffle? Still sounds like a good deal to me.:D The one who got gypped was your grandfather who traded you a good running pickup.[}:)] With the resorces that your family has, I don't think it's that much of a big deal though.;) Your Grampa will have that old truck up and running before long.:D

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Ron Smith

studeclunker
11-01-2006, 01:00 PM
As I recall, you won that dump truck in a raffle? Still sounds like a good deal to me.:D The one who got gypped was your grandfather who traded you a good running pickup.[}:)] With the resorces that your family has, I don't think it's that much of a big deal though.;) Your Grampa will have that old truck up and running before long.:D

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/bugsport/HappyHalloween-1.jpg
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

lstude
11-01-2006, 04:23 PM
quote: Gary,

sounds good to me, IIRC you are near Richmond? that's more like 2 hours if that. But sadly that's way out of my price range for the forseeable future. I am kind of halfheartedly looking for a truck right now, doesn't have to be a Stude, just something functional to haul stuff around in. Preferably not too big so I can park it in my driveway without taking up too much space. Was hoping for something old and cool but like I said I am only half looking because of financial constraints :(

nate

Nate, I have a 96 Dodge Ram with 200,000 miles that I will let you have for $1,500.00. I am also in Richmond. It has a Studebaker hood ornament which makes it more valuable. The camper shell doesn't go with it.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/96DodgeRam001.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/96DodgeRam003.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
11-01-2006, 04:23 PM
quote: Gary,

sounds good to me, IIRC you are near Richmond? that's more like 2 hours if that. But sadly that's way out of my price range for the forseeable future. I am kind of halfheartedly looking for a truck right now, doesn't have to be a Stude, just something functional to haul stuff around in. Preferably not too big so I can park it in my driveway without taking up too much space. Was hoping for something old and cool but like I said I am only half looking because of financial constraints :(

nate

Nate, I have a 96 Dodge Ram with 200,000 miles that I will let you have for $1,500.00. I am also in Richmond. It has a Studebaker hood ornament which makes it more valuable. The camper shell doesn't go with it.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/96DodgeRam001.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/96DodgeRam003.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

DilloCrafter
11-01-2006, 04:35 PM
Leonard,
That's a fitting hood ornament for that Ram, seeing as how Dodge borrowed heavily from the 2R-E series truck for the Ram and Dakota of that vintage. Some people even have put Stude truck cabs and beds on a Dodge Dakota frame, same 112" wheelbase.

While I'm rambling, where did the word "gypped" come from? Was it a derivation of "gypsy", and someone coined the word after enough bad business dealings with gypsies?

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Current_Avacar.gif[/img=left] - DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

DilloCrafter
11-01-2006, 04:35 PM
Leonard,
That's a fitting hood ornament for that Ram, seeing as how Dodge borrowed heavily from the 2R-E series truck for the Ram and Dakota of that vintage. Some people even have put Stude truck cabs and beds on a Dodge Dakota frame, same 112" wheelbase.

While I'm rambling, where did the word "gypped" come from? Was it a derivation of "gypsy", and someone coined the word after enough bad business dealings with gypsies?

http://rocketdillo.com/studebaker/misc/images/Current_Avacar.gif[/img=left] - DilloCrafter

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

tomnoller
11-01-2006, 04:40 PM
Actually, Leonard, Dodge & Studebaker did have something of a marriage with the bigger box on the Champ truck, so that ornament works!

Western Washington, USA

tomnoller
11-01-2006, 04:40 PM
Actually, Leonard, Dodge & Studebaker did have something of a marriage with the bigger box on the Champ truck, so that ornament works!

Western Washington, USA

lstude
11-01-2006, 04:46 PM
quote: Leonard,
That's a fitting hood ornament for that Ram, seeing as how Dodge borrowed heavily from the 2R-E series truck for the Ram and Dakota of that vintage. Some people even have put Stude truck cabs and beds on a Dodge Dakota frame, same 112" wheelbase.

I was at one of the FIELD DAYS OF THE PAST events that Gary is involved in near Richmond. There was a Dodge truck like mine parked next to Gary's 55 Studebaker dump truck. A man and his son (who was about 10 years old) were walking by and the kid said. Hey Dad, those two trucks look just alike. I looked at them both and especially with the 55, with larger grille openings, the reseblance was unmistakable!

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

lstude
11-01-2006, 04:46 PM
quote: Leonard,
That's a fitting hood ornament for that Ram, seeing as how Dodge borrowed heavily from the 2R-E series truck for the Ram and Dakota of that vintage. Some people even have put Stude truck cabs and beds on a Dodge Dakota frame, same 112" wheelbase.

I was at one of the FIELD DAYS OF THE PAST events that Gary is involved in near Richmond. There was a Dodge truck like mine parked next to Gary's 55 Studebaker dump truck. A man and his son (who was about 10 years old) were walking by and the kid said. Hey Dad, those two trucks look just alike. I looked at them both and especially with the 55, with larger grille openings, the reseblance was unmistakable!

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

CHAMP
11-01-2006, 05:01 PM
Mathew, Didn't you get the extended warranty with that truck[?]:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

CHAMP
11-01-2006, 05:01 PM
Mathew, Didn't you get the extended warranty with that truck[?]:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

rockne10
11-01-2006, 07:47 PM
I don't think it would be knocking if the timing gear stripped; it would just be doing nothing, a much less problematic expense.


quote:While I'm rambling, where did the word "gypped" come from? Was it a derivation of "gypsy", and someone coined the word after enough bad business dealings with gypsies?

From Webster's:
gyp\'jip\n[prob. short for gypsy] 1Brit: a college servant 2a: cheat, swindler b:fraud, swindle

From the Dictionary of American Slang:
gyp gip jip n.1A gypsy.c1890. obsolete

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

rockne10
11-01-2006, 07:47 PM
I don't think it would be knocking if the timing gear stripped; it would just be doing nothing, a much less problematic expense.


quote:While I'm rambling, where did the word "gypped" come from? Was it a derivation of "gypsy", and someone coined the word after enough bad business dealings with gypsies?

From Webster's:
gyp\'jip\n[prob. short for gypsy] 1Brit: a college servant 2a: cheat, swindler b:fraud, swindle

From the Dictionary of American Slang:
gyp gip jip n.1A gypsy.c1890. obsolete

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

mbstude
11-02-2006, 07:43 AM
quote: I don't think it would be knocking if the timing gear stripped; it would just be doing nothing, a much less problematic expense.

Before I got the '59 truck, it was knocking pretty bad. We were certain it was a rod. When my grandad pulled the timing cover, the gear was stripped. He replaced it and it's been runnin' like a Champ! :D


quote:ayup, it sucks that it grenaded but I will gladly take any truck with a solid body and functional brakes whether or not it has an engine installed!
It does have one extremely solid body. (We had it to bare metal and NO rust at all!) the brakes were rebuilt as well. We have a spare 245 that was destined for the fire truck, but... If it were still my truck, I'd stick in a 259 for sure. [:p]


quote:As I recall, you won that dump truck in a raffle? Still sounds like a good deal to me. The one who got gypped was your grandfather who traded you a good running pickup. With the resorces that your family has, I don't think it's that much of a big deal though. Your Grampa will have that old truck up and running before long.
Yes, I paid all of $2.00 for it. [8D] I know I still got a good deal. We'll have it back on the road in no time. ;) The only thing is, he was out near his house when it happened, and the truck is there now. (15 miles from the shop) and we don't have a trailer big enough to haul it. [:0] Maybe he can fix it in his little shop at his house. :)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


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http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mbstude
11-02-2006, 07:43 AM
quote: I don't think it would be knocking if the timing gear stripped; it would just be doing nothing, a much less problematic expense.

Before I got the '59 truck, it was knocking pretty bad. We were certain it was a rod. When my grandad pulled the timing cover, the gear was stripped. He replaced it and it's been runnin' like a Champ! :D


quote:ayup, it sucks that it grenaded but I will gladly take any truck with a solid body and functional brakes whether or not it has an engine installed!
It does have one extremely solid body. (We had it to bare metal and NO rust at all!) the brakes were rebuilt as well. We have a spare 245 that was destined for the fire truck, but... If it were still my truck, I'd stick in a 259 for sure. [:p]


quote:As I recall, you won that dump truck in a raffle? Still sounds like a good deal to me. The one who got gypped was your grandfather who traded you a good running pickup. With the resorces that your family has, I don't think it's that much of a big deal though. Your Grampa will have that old truck up and running before long.
Yes, I paid all of $2.00 for it. [8D] I know I still got a good deal. We'll have it back on the road in no time. ;) The only thing is, he was out near his house when it happened, and the truck is there now. (15 miles from the shop) and we don't have a trailer big enough to haul it. [:0] Maybe he can fix it in his little shop at his house. :)

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http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/