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65cruiser
10-30-2006, 01:02 PM
I was doing some surfing today and ran across some troublesome Studebaker pics[}:)]. I really can't figure out what is going on here:

http://www.carsinbarns.com/Classics/Images/Studabaker5.jpg
http://www.carsinbarns.com/Classics/Images/Studabaker2.jpg
http://www.carsinbarns.com/Classics/Images/Studabaker3.jpg
http://www.carsinbarns.com/Classics/Images/Studabaker6.jpg

There's really something wrong with this roofline, and the fins. The interior is from a much earlier model--I'm so confused.

Here's another picture I found that I think is the same car from the side:

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/studibaker.jpg

At first, it looks like it was built with parts from different year Studebaker's but I've not seen some of these parts before. Even the grille mesh looks--different:(
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Blue 15G
10-30-2006, 01:18 PM
I've seen it somewhere on the web before too, awhile ago. At first I thought "ebay", but now I don't think so. I just can't remember for sure.

Looks like it could be a modified '54 because of the instrument panel and quarter windows. But who knows?

Blue 15G
10-30-2006, 01:18 PM
I've seen it somewhere on the web before too, awhile ago. At first I thought "ebay", but now I don't think so. I just can't remember for sure.

Looks like it could be a modified '54 because of the instrument panel and quarter windows. But who knows?

Blue 15G
10-30-2006, 01:20 PM
The fuel pump is mounted up high near the oil filler too. Wasn't '54 the last year for that location on the V-8?

Blue 15G
10-30-2006, 01:20 PM
The fuel pump is mounted up high near the oil filler too. Wasn't '54 the last year for that location on the V-8?

65cruiser
10-30-2006, 01:21 PM
The fins strangely don't have the upward sweep. The engine appears to be an earlier engine also. The roofline is wrong, the fins are wrong, I think the hoodscoop is wrong. The grille mesh sort of resembles a 62 Lark mesh but I can't get good enough look at it to tell.


quote:Originally posted by Blue 15G

I've seen it somewhere on the web before too, awhile ago. At first I thought "ebay", but now I don't think so. I just can't remember for sure.

Looks like it could be a modified '54 because of the instrument panel and quarter windows. But who knows?






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Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

65cruiser
10-30-2006, 01:21 PM
The fins strangely don't have the upward sweep. The engine appears to be an earlier engine also. The roofline is wrong, the fins are wrong, I think the hoodscoop is wrong. The grille mesh sort of resembles a 62 Lark mesh but I can't get good enough look at it to tell.


quote:Originally posted by Blue 15G

I've seen it somewhere on the web before too, awhile ago. At first I thought "ebay", but now I don't think so. I just can't remember for sure.

Looks like it could be a modified '54 because of the instrument panel and quarter windows. But who knows?






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Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

N8N
10-30-2006, 01:59 PM
I think this was discussed before, either here or on the newsgroup, IIRC it was determined that the car was actually a GT Hawk styling study/prototype that was cobbled together by a SB body shop from an earlier K-body.

nate

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N8N
10-30-2006, 01:59 PM
I think this was discussed before, either here or on the newsgroup, IIRC it was determined that the car was actually a GT Hawk styling study/prototype that was cobbled together by a SB body shop from an earlier K-body.

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
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8E45E
10-30-2006, 01:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

The fins strangely don't have the upward sweep. The engine appears to be an earlier engine also. The roofline is wrong, the fins are wrong, I think the hoodscoop is wrong. The grille mesh sort of resembles a 62 Lark mesh but I can't get good enough look at it to tell.


Those pics were posted before on the Newsgroup. Its of the styling study of how a Thunderbird-like roofline would look on a K body. Apparently it was done by O'Chapps Bodyworks in South Bend. There was a write-up in TW around 1979 or '80 or so.

Craig.


Looks like it could be a modified '54 because of the instrument panel and quarter windows. But who knows?






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1965 Cruiser
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8E45E
10-30-2006, 01:59 PM
quote:Originally posted by 65cruiser

The fins strangely don't have the upward sweep. The engine appears to be an earlier engine also. The roofline is wrong, the fins are wrong, I think the hoodscoop is wrong. The grille mesh sort of resembles a 62 Lark mesh but I can't get good enough look at it to tell.


Those pics were posted before on the Newsgroup. Its of the styling study of how a Thunderbird-like roofline would look on a K body. Apparently it was done by O'Chapps Bodyworks in South Bend. There was a write-up in TW around 1979 or '80 or so.

Craig.


Looks like it could be a modified '54 because of the instrument panel and quarter windows. But who knows?






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Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
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http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg
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lstude
10-30-2006, 02:13 PM
I copied the picture and lightened it up to see the roof better. It looks like it might be a GT Hawk roofline with the 53-58 side windows. The hood scoop looks like 57-58 Golden Hawk and the grille texture looks like 62 Lark. The engine looks like a stock 54 Commander except for the light bulb holder placed on the inner fender :DThere is something going on at the cowl also. To sum it up, it is just sad.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/UnusualStude.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

lstude
10-30-2006, 02:13 PM
I copied the picture and lightened it up to see the roof better. It looks like it might be a GT Hawk roofline with the 53-58 side windows. The hood scoop looks like 57-58 Golden Hawk and the grille texture looks like 62 Lark. The engine looks like a stock 54 Commander except for the light bulb holder placed on the inner fender :DThere is something going on at the cowl also. To sum it up, it is just sad.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/UnusualStude.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

lstude
10-30-2006, 02:18 PM
Here is an even lighter picture of it.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/UnusualStudelt.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

lstude
10-30-2006, 02:18 PM
Here is an even lighter picture of it.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/UnusualStudelt.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

Scott
10-30-2006, 02:24 PM
Yes,

I posted a link to this some months ago. The car appears to be one of the legitimate styling studies ordered by Studebaker. I seem to recall that it was performed by an outside firm. There is a picture of this car or another identical one in either an old TW or one Reynolds' books (I'mpretty sure it was in TW). In that picture it was new.

Scott
10-30-2006, 02:24 PM
Yes,

I posted a link to this some months ago. The car appears to be one of the legitimate styling studies ordered by Studebaker. I seem to recall that it was performed by an outside firm. There is a picture of this car or another identical one in either an old TW or one Reynolds' books (I'mpretty sure it was in TW). In that picture it was new.

mbstude
10-30-2006, 03:49 PM
I read an article on that car. It was for Studebaker but was built by an outside shop. The roof is from a T-Bird. It was on ebay a while back. It's a real 'Johnny Cash Special'. :D

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mbstude
10-30-2006, 03:49 PM
I read an article on that car. It was for Studebaker but was built by an outside shop. The roof is from a T-Bird. It was on ebay a while back. It's a real 'Johnny Cash Special'. :D

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

kmul221
10-30-2006, 04:10 PM
I believe this car was pictured somewhere in this site & was discussed B-4

http://carsinbarns.com/index.html

kmul221
10-30-2006, 04:10 PM
I believe this car was pictured somewhere in this site & was discussed B-4

http://carsinbarns.com/index.html

65cruiser
10-30-2006, 04:16 PM
That is the site where I found it.


quote:Originally posted by kmul221

I believe this car was pictured somewhere in this site & was discussed B-4

http://carsinbarns.com/index.html


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Mark Anderson
1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

65cruiser
10-30-2006, 04:16 PM
That is the site where I found it.


quote:Originally posted by kmul221

I believe this car was pictured somewhere in this site & was discussed B-4

http://carsinbarns.com/index.html


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1965 Cruiser
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/smstude.jpg

lstude
10-30-2006, 05:09 PM
I went to the site but couldn't find the Studebaker. What category is it under? The site reminds me of a very sad auction I went to a few years ago near Carlisle, PA. A Studebaker collector had died about 20 years ago and left about 200 Studebakers on his farm. They just sat there until the auction. Most were so far gone that a scrap dealer bought most of them for under $20.00 each! :(
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/55SpeedsteratCarlisleauction.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/58PackardatCarlisleauction.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/53StudebakersatCarlisleauction.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

lstude
10-30-2006, 05:09 PM
I went to the site but couldn't find the Studebaker. What category is it under? The site reminds me of a very sad auction I went to a few years ago near Carlisle, PA. A Studebaker collector had died about 20 years ago and left about 200 Studebakers on his farm. They just sat there until the auction. Most were so far gone that a scrap dealer bought most of them for under $20.00 each! :(
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/55SpeedsteratCarlisleauction.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/58PackardatCarlisleauction.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/53StudebakersatCarlisleauction.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

Bill Pressler
10-30-2006, 05:12 PM
Yes, that car was talked about in a TW article some years back--and that article did include a photo of the car when new or nearly new. Studebaker commissioned it from O'Chapps Body Works in South Bend as a pre-production (of course!) GT Hawk prototype. The roof is from a '58-'60 T-Bird, with a center section taken out (TBird roof too wide for Hawk body). While it looks goofy, it does have Stude historical significance. Too bad it's in such rough shape (at least apparently). The basic car is a '54 Stude although I remember that this "job" was done in '60 or '61.

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH

Bill Pressler
10-30-2006, 05:12 PM
Yes, that car was talked about in a TW article some years back--and that article did include a photo of the car when new or nearly new. Studebaker commissioned it from O'Chapps Body Works in South Bend as a pre-production (of course!) GT Hawk prototype. The roof is from a '58-'60 T-Bird, with a center section taken out (TBird roof too wide for Hawk body). While it looks goofy, it does have Stude historical significance. Too bad it's in such rough shape (at least apparently). The basic car is a '54 Stude although I remember that this "job" was done in '60 or '61.

Bill Pressler
Kent, OH

Bill Pressler
10-30-2006, 05:15 PM
Just as an aside, I remember a sort-of friend's Dad, who knew of my interest in Studes, say, years ago, "They bought T-Bird roofs when they did the GT Hawk". I had never heard that and thought it was so ridiculous, I about laughed on the spot. Well, he was sorta right, based on this one prototype, anyway!

Bill Pressler

Bill Pressler
10-30-2006, 05:15 PM
Just as an aside, I remember a sort-of friend's Dad, who knew of my interest in Studes, say, years ago, "They bought T-Bird roofs when they did the GT Hawk". I had never heard that and thought it was so ridiculous, I about laughed on the spot. Well, he was sorta right, based on this one prototype, anyway!

Bill Pressler