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studeclunker
10-30-2006, 02:59 AM
I saw this wagon on ebay and got a laugh out of the ad. He has no reserve, but look at that minimum bid! Yeah, no reserve, let's just start the bidding there anyway. Oi.http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1956-Studebaker-Pelham-Station-Wagon_W0QQitemZ130041008125QQihZ003QQcategoryZ6466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

bams50
10-30-2006, 04:28 AM
This one was on eBay a few months ago- starting bid then was $7K [:0]

First time around seller had pics of major frame rust... I notice those aren't in the listing this time...;) just one pic of a rust hole with a piece of angle iron tacked over part of it...[xx(]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
10-30-2006, 04:28 AM
This one was on eBay a few months ago- starting bid then was $7K [:0]

First time around seller had pics of major frame rust... I notice those aren't in the listing this time...;) just one pic of a rust hole with a piece of angle iron tacked over part of it...[xx(]

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

56H-Y6
10-30-2006, 06:32 AM
Hi
Ebay loves those folks, they use the "defacto reserve" (my term for it) approach. Always advertise you have no reserve then start the bidding at a higher figure than you could ever hope to get.
Trouble with that approach, no bidders ever, just listed again and again and again......
With a reserve set too high for the item but allowed to bid through, at least by the third run, the seller sees a pattern, should have a realistic idea what the item would sell for. To their dismay, it is usually way under their reserve.
And eventually the just get sick of process and finally sell it for what it is really worth.
Steve

56H-Y6
10-30-2006, 06:32 AM
Hi
Ebay loves those folks, they use the "defacto reserve" (my term for it) approach. Always advertise you have no reserve then start the bidding at a higher figure than you could ever hope to get.
Trouble with that approach, no bidders ever, just listed again and again and again......
With a reserve set too high for the item but allowed to bid through, at least by the third run, the seller sees a pattern, should have a realistic idea what the item would sell for. To their dismay, it is usually way under their reserve.
And eventually the just get sick of process and finally sell it for what it is really worth.
Steve

CHAMP
10-30-2006, 07:22 AM
I kind of like the 56 wagons! Does anyone have any idea what that one is worth? With the six cly. I think I would rather have a three speed stick shift with O/D or a V/8 with automatic. That frame damage is not that much of a job to fix. I have a friend that is a welder-fitter and he could take care of that. I better be careful or I'll be bidding on it!

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

CHAMP
10-30-2006, 07:22 AM
I kind of like the 56 wagons! Does anyone have any idea what that one is worth? With the six cly. I think I would rather have a three speed stick shift with O/D or a V/8 with automatic. That frame damage is not that much of a job to fix. I have a friend that is a welder-fitter and he could take care of that. I better be careful or I'll be bidding on it!

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

KGlowacky
10-30-2006, 08:08 AM
The value of one in general is "in the eye of the beholder". I've seen non running cars on ebay not even get a bid and I seen non running ones go for $1,000.00 plus. So the value is not easy to determine. Surprisingly, for as rear as they are, there seems to be at least one every three months showing up on e-bay. Good Luck.

KGlowacky
10-30-2006, 08:08 AM
The value of one in general is "in the eye of the beholder". I've seen non running cars on ebay not even get a bid and I seen non running ones go for $1,000.00 plus. So the value is not easy to determine. Surprisingly, for as rear as they are, there seems to be at least one every three months showing up on e-bay. Good Luck.

Roscomacaw
10-30-2006, 10:38 AM
But - but - it's got a pretty NOS, wrong-color floor mat up front! Besides, they paid that much for it, why won't someone else??:(

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
10-30-2006, 10:38 AM
But - but - it's got a pretty NOS, wrong-color floor mat up front! Besides, they paid that much for it, why won't someone else??:(

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

John Kirchhoff
10-30-2006, 11:25 AM
I like the looks good from 20 feet description....I don't look too bad from that distance either but get up close, it's apparent I'm a high mileage item!

John Kirchhoff
10-30-2006, 11:25 AM
I like the looks good from 20 feet description....I don't look too bad from that distance either but get up close, it's apparent I'm a high mileage item!

am not r2
10-30-2006, 03:50 PM
I saw this car at the Keene NH. meet this year. neat car. the body paint was not the best in places but it looked presentable and looked like a nice driver. I love two door wagooons. The start IS a bit much,R

64 Daytona HT

am not r2
10-30-2006, 03:50 PM
I saw this car at the Keene NH. meet this year. neat car. the body paint was not the best in places but it looked presentable and looked like a nice driver. I love two door wagooons. The start IS a bit much,R

64 Daytona HT

ST2DE5
10-30-2006, 07:57 PM
Hey Don't knock the Wagons. I've got a 56 Parkview and I think it is a cool looking car. Wagons are starting to show now. I seen a 57 F##d Ranch Wagon the other day that just been restored and it looked nice. I'll bet that if that wagon on E-Bay was yours you would want that much for it.

ST2DE5
10-30-2006, 07:57 PM
Hey Don't knock the Wagons. I've got a 56 Parkview and I think it is a cool looking car. Wagons are starting to show now. I seen a 57 F##d Ranch Wagon the other day that just been restored and it looked nice. I'll bet that if that wagon on E-Bay was yours you would want that much for it.

65cruiser
10-30-2006, 08:25 PM
For a decent, driver quality Stude, I don't think $5 grand is that much out of line.

The prices are going up guys.


quote:Originally posted by ST2DE5

Hey Don't knock the Wagons. I've got a 56 Parkview and I think it is a cool looking car. Wagons are starting to show now. I seen a 57 F##d Ranch Wagon the other day that just been restored and it looked nice. I'll bet that if that wagon on E-Bay was yours you would want that much for it.


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65cruiser
10-30-2006, 08:25 PM
For a decent, driver quality Stude, I don't think $5 grand is that much out of line.

The prices are going up guys.


quote:Originally posted by ST2DE5

Hey Don't knock the Wagons. I've got a 56 Parkview and I think it is a cool looking car. Wagons are starting to show now. I seen a 57 F##d Ranch Wagon the other day that just been restored and it looked nice. I'll bet that if that wagon on E-Bay was yours you would want that much for it.


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bams50
10-30-2006, 10:25 PM
You know, I went back and re-read the ad... although I prefer the 57s or 58s, and prefer the 4 door, I've changed my mind a little on the price... if the buyer's telling the truth, there's close to 5 grand worth of work in it...

I too have a guy locally who would have no problem fixing that frame, and doing it RIGHT; probably a couple hundred bucks...

I guess it's not too far off after all...

(Plus, if someone buys this, maybe it'll make mine worth more than diddly-squat...;):D)

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
10-30-2006, 10:25 PM
You know, I went back and re-read the ad... although I prefer the 57s or 58s, and prefer the 4 door, I've changed my mind a little on the price... if the buyer's telling the truth, there's close to 5 grand worth of work in it...

I too have a guy locally who would have no problem fixing that frame, and doing it RIGHT; probably a couple hundred bucks...

I guess it's not too far off after all...

(Plus, if someone buys this, maybe it'll make mine worth more than diddly-squat...;):D)

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

showbizkid
10-30-2006, 10:37 PM
Frankly, I hate reserve auctions, if they're secret reserves. Seller wants to have a reserve? Fine! But say what it is. That way, people don't get their hopes up bidding on cars and other items they don't have the wherewithal to win.

My .02 :D


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showbizkid
10-30-2006, 10:37 PM
Frankly, I hate reserve auctions, if they're secret reserves. Seller wants to have a reserve? Fine! But say what it is. That way, people don't get their hopes up bidding on cars and other items they don't have the wherewithal to win.

My .02 :D


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
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studeclunker
10-31-2006, 03:02 AM
I have to agree with you, showbiz. I'd rather see one like this wagon than the secret one where one goes through the paces wins the auction and the seller says; 'Sorry, cough up X amount more or forget it.' What's the point of an auction?
Still, for a starting point I think this is too high. There was a '63 Daytona two-door sedan that had the same problem recently. They just wanted way too much. I liked this wagon the first time I saw it. Wish I could afford it. Oh well, I'll just have to be happy with what I've got. The twins have the potential of being really nice cars. I'd just like ONE car that didn't just have potential but IS!

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

studeclunker
10-31-2006, 03:02 AM
I have to agree with you, showbiz. I'd rather see one like this wagon than the secret one where one goes through the paces wins the auction and the seller says; 'Sorry, cough up X amount more or forget it.' What's the point of an auction?
Still, for a starting point I think this is too high. There was a '63 Daytona two-door sedan that had the same problem recently. They just wanted way too much. I liked this wagon the first time I saw it. Wish I could afford it. Oh well, I'll just have to be happy with what I've got. The twins have the potential of being really nice cars. I'd just like ONE car that didn't just have potential but IS!

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

bams50
10-31-2006, 05:09 AM
quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

[font=Comic Sans MS I'd rather see one like this wagon than the secret one where one goes through the paces wins the auction and the seller says; 'Sorry, cough up X amount more or forget it.' What's the point of an auction?


It doesn't work like that. When you bid on an item with a hidden reserve, it tells you as soon as you bid whether the reserve has been met or not... if your bid was your max, you know you're done; if not, you can go higher and see if you meet the reserve; or you can rethink your max, and if you decide to go higher, you can bid that amount and see if you won.

If your bid meets the reserve, it also tells you that immediately. If the bid you made is more than the amount needed to overcome any other bidders' current max, eBay makes your bid amount only enough to overcome those... i.e. say you see a car and decide the most you'll pay is $5000, you place that bid... the high before you bid was $1000... so your actual bid only is the amt. needed to advance the bid- so your bid is only $1025! If the auction ends and the reserve was met (which everyone will know immediately) you only pay the $1025- even though your max was set at $5000!! I personally love the auction method- I've bought MANY items for WAY below what I was willing to pay [:p][^]

In the case of this wagon, you know that if you place the opening bid, the reserve is met; whoever has the highest bid when the time runs out will have won it!! Great for buyers- you already know if it's within what you'd be willing to pay... but not great for sellers, for the reason Steve said previously- if it doesn't get a bid, seller will never know what folks were willing to pay. He'd be smarter to make the reserve $4995 and the opening bid $100 or $500 or so... that allows the bidding to get started easily, and is much more likely to keep interested buyers watching, and therefore reconsidering if they're interested and what they'd pay- as opposed to looking once, being initially put off by the high opener, and putting it out of your mind... and if it doesn't get up to the reserve he set, he is not obligated to sell it, plus he knows what folks think it's worth currently... if your bid meets the reserve (and you're highest at the end) the seller is obligated to sell it to you then!

So Ron, have no fear... if you win an auction, it's true to it's definition- you've won!!

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
10-31-2006, 05:09 AM
quote:Originally posted by studeclunker

[font=Comic Sans MS I'd rather see one like this wagon than the secret one where one goes through the paces wins the auction and the seller says; 'Sorry, cough up X amount more or forget it.' What's the point of an auction?


It doesn't work like that. When you bid on an item with a hidden reserve, it tells you as soon as you bid whether the reserve has been met or not... if your bid was your max, you know you're done; if not, you can go higher and see if you meet the reserve; or you can rethink your max, and if you decide to go higher, you can bid that amount and see if you won.

If your bid meets the reserve, it also tells you that immediately. If the bid you made is more than the amount needed to overcome any other bidders' current max, eBay makes your bid amount only enough to overcome those... i.e. say you see a car and decide the most you'll pay is $5000, you place that bid... the high before you bid was $1000... so your actual bid only is the amt. needed to advance the bid- so your bid is only $1025! If the auction ends and the reserve was met (which everyone will know immediately) you only pay the $1025- even though your max was set at $5000!! I personally love the auction method- I've bought MANY items for WAY below what I was willing to pay [:p][^]

In the case of this wagon, you know that if you place the opening bid, the reserve is met; whoever has the highest bid when the time runs out will have won it!! Great for buyers- you already know if it's within what you'd be willing to pay... but not great for sellers, for the reason Steve said previously- if it doesn't get a bid, seller will never know what folks were willing to pay. He'd be smarter to make the reserve $4995 and the opening bid $100 or $500 or so... that allows the bidding to get started easily, and is much more likely to keep interested buyers watching, and therefore reconsidering if they're interested and what they'd pay- as opposed to looking once, being initially put off by the high opener, and putting it out of your mind... and if it doesn't get up to the reserve he set, he is not obligated to sell it, plus he knows what folks think it's worth currently... if your bid meets the reserve (and you're highest at the end) the seller is obligated to sell it to you then!

So Ron, have no fear... if you win an auction, it's true to it's definition- you've won!!

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

5859
10-31-2006, 10:45 AM
It looks like it is worth the starting bid to me, although frame rust is kind of scary if it is really bad.

5859
10-31-2006, 10:45 AM
It looks like it is worth the starting bid to me, although frame rust is kind of scary if it is really bad.

lstude
11-01-2006, 04:22 AM
That 56 wagon is a real deal compared to the UNRESTORED 51 Champion Starlight coupe just listed on eBay for $10,241.00. That must be a typo! Also the description says the cowl tag reads 106 05 when it shows in the picture as 10G C5.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1951-Studebaker-Champion-Starlite-Coupe_W0QQitemZ220044104015QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
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lstude
11-01-2006, 04:22 AM
That 56 wagon is a real deal compared to the UNRESTORED 51 Champion Starlight coupe just listed on eBay for $10,241.00. That must be a typo! Also the description says the cowl tag reads 106 05 when it shows in the picture as 10G C5.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1951-Studebaker-Champion-Starlite-Coupe_W0QQitemZ220044104015QQihZ012QQcategoryZ6466QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

bams50
11-01-2006, 05:38 AM
Just to add to my previous post...

Another problem with this seller's approach: Each time it's listed it costs close to $100 [:0]

Why wouldn't you at least want to see what the buyers are willing to bid if you're going to spend that money?

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
11-01-2006, 05:38 AM
Just to add to my previous post...

Another problem with this seller's approach: Each time it's listed it costs close to $100 [:0]

Why wouldn't you at least want to see what the buyers are willing to bid if you're going to spend that money?

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

studeclunker
11-01-2006, 12:41 PM
I asked the seller why he hasn't listed the car in TW. He replied the lead time put him off. If he had listed the car in the first place the magazine ad would have already run. Even if he isn't a member, the ad would have been half the cost of the first auction. It would have also have reached a larger Stude readership. Ah, the younger generation, as my daughter says it succinctly: 'If it aint now, it aint nothin.' I have issues with her grammer, nonetheless she makes her point. I suppose it may become the description of her generation.

Robert, I know how the e-bay auction process works. I just don't like the secret reserve. This fella with his high starting bid is much more honest than any secret reserve. And Robert? You DON'T get the car if you don't meet the secret reserve. So even if you win the auction, you lose.

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Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

studeclunker
11-01-2006, 12:41 PM
I asked the seller why he hasn't listed the car in TW. He replied the lead time put him off. If he had listed the car in the first place the magazine ad would have already run. Even if he isn't a member, the ad would have been half the cost of the first auction. It would have also have reached a larger Stude readership. Ah, the younger generation, as my daughter says it succinctly: 'If it aint now, it aint nothin.' I have issues with her grammer, nonetheless she makes her point. I suppose it may become the description of her generation.

Robert, I know how the e-bay auction process works. I just don't like the secret reserve. This fella with his high starting bid is much more honest than any secret reserve. And Robert? You DON'T get the car if you don't meet the secret reserve. So even if you win the auction, you lose.

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Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

CHAMP
11-01-2006, 05:28 PM
The bidding is about to end and stll zero bids!:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

CHAMP
11-01-2006, 05:28 PM
The bidding is about to end and stll zero bids!:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

StudeDave57
11-04-2006, 12:00 AM
Besides being a Pelham (six cylinder) and an automatic, what's wrong with this car? It's worth what he's asking~ I think...

So there's some rust~ what Stude doesn't have a little somewhere? Yes, I'm partial to '57s, but this is a not too easy to find car, it's running, and it's had lots of work done to it!!! :) [^]
If it gets relisted again~ it'll sell!?. ;)


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

StudeDave57
11-04-2006, 12:00 AM
Besides being a Pelham (six cylinder) and an automatic, what's wrong with this car? It's worth what he's asking~ I think...

So there's some rust~ what Stude doesn't have a little somewhere? Yes, I'm partial to '57s, but this is a not too easy to find car, it's running, and it's had lots of work done to it!!! :) [^]
If it gets relisted again~ it'll sell!?. ;)


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

studeclunker
11-04-2006, 12:45 AM
Dave,
I agree with you. This and the '54s are my favourite of the '50s wagons. Still, this car has been up twice, at least, without any bids. Had I the money:( he would have had my bid...;)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/54wagonblue-2.jpghttp://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/62lark-1.jpg
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

studeclunker
11-04-2006, 12:45 AM
Dave,
I agree with you. This and the '54s are my favourite of the '50s wagons. Still, this car has been up twice, at least, without any bids. Had I the money:( he would have had my bid...;)

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/54wagonblue-2.jpghttp://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/studebaby/62lark-1.jpg
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

JDP
11-04-2006, 04:49 PM
Setting a reserve and a low starting bid is the only way to go on ebay. If you start out with a $1000 bid and a 10K reserve, yuu'll get maybe a dozen dreamers that bid early. Then new bidders will see all the action and jump in.

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64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
11-04-2006, 04:49 PM
Setting a reserve and a low starting bid is the only way to go on ebay. If you start out with a $1000 bid and a 10K reserve, yuu'll get maybe a dozen dreamers that bid early. Then new bidders will see all the action and jump in.

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
Studebaker News Group
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.studebaker
Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

showbizkid
11-04-2006, 11:18 PM
I guess all I'm saying is, state what the reserve is. With secret reserve auctions, I don't even bother to bid because it feels like I'm getting jerked around.


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showbizkid
11-04-2006, 11:18 PM
I guess all I'm saying is, state what the reserve is. With secret reserve auctions, I don't even bother to bid because it feels like I'm getting jerked around.


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'63 F2/Lark Standard
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bams50
11-05-2006, 01:15 AM
quote:Originally posted by showbizkid

I guess all I'm saying is, state what the reserve is. With secret reserve auctions, I don't even bother to bid because it feels like I'm getting jerked around.



Makes no sense to me- however I hope you always see it this way on anything I want to buy! ;)

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

bams50
11-05-2006, 01:15 AM
quote:Originally posted by showbizkid

I guess all I'm saying is, state what the reserve is. With secret reserve auctions, I don't even bother to bid because it feels like I'm getting jerked around.



Makes no sense to me- however I hope you always see it this way on anything I want to buy! ;)

Robert K. Andrews Owner- IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131
http://www.cardomain.com/ride/2358680/1

showbizkid
11-05-2006, 02:57 AM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

[quote]
Makes no sense to me- however I hope you always see it this way on anything I want to buy! ;)


LOL :D You're a funny man, Bob![8D]


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'63 F2/Lark Standard
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showbizkid
11-05-2006, 02:57 AM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

[quote]
Makes no sense to me- however I hope you always see it this way on anything I want to buy! ;)


LOL :D You're a funny man, Bob![8D]


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
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JDP
11-05-2006, 07:42 AM
If you post your reserve, its' no different than starting with a high starting bid at the reserve amount. The dreamers won't bid when they see it's out of there reach. You'll just waste the money you are paying for setting a reserve. I love it when someone on ebay's posts there reserve if it's reasonable. I'll just set a snipe bid for a few dollars over it and hope for a bargain. :)

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Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
11-05-2006, 07:42 AM
If you post your reserve, its' no different than starting with a high starting bid at the reserve amount. The dreamers won't bid when they see it's out of there reach. You'll just waste the money you are paying for setting a reserve. I love it when someone on ebay's posts there reserve if it's reasonable. I'll just set a snipe bid for a few dollars over it and hope for a bargain. :)

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Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander