pg. 32, July TW

[BobGlasscock]

re: the pic of the Nine-O-Nine and 1942 President Skyway.

Here is a pic of the same plane earlier this summer. The 3 visible engines are all Studebakers.



'50 Champion, 1 family owner

[BobPalma]

Thanks for mentioning that plane, Bob. Does anyone know where the Nine-O-Nine moniker came from; to what it refers? I read the description but can't make the connection. Thanks. BP

[mbstude]

I don't know about the plane, but the July issue is one of the best yet! Lots of forum members got some coverage!

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

[BobGlasscock]

I don't know. I have an image of the description sign and it doesn't mention that. I hope someone knows, though.

'50 Champion, 1 family owner

[BobGlasscock]

quote:Originally posted by mbstude

I don't know about the plane, but the July issue is one of the best yet! Lots of forum members got some coverage!

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA

Really?? Wonder who?

'50 Champion, 1 family owner

[StudeDave57]

I started to post my answer, but thought I'd better check first. Turns out I was right!!! From Wikpedia~

"A block 30 B-17G manufactured by the Boeing Company, she was nicknamed after the last three digits of her serial number: 42-31909. She was added to the USAAF inventory on December 15, 1943, and flown overseas on February 5, 1944. After depot modifications, she was delivered to the 91st BG at RAF Bassingbourn, England, on February 24, 1944, as a replacement aircraft, one of the last B-17s received in factory-applied camouflage paint.
B-17G-85-DL, 44-83575, civil register N93012, owned and flown by The Collings Foundation, Stow, Massachusetts, currently appears at airshows marked as the historic Nine-O-Nine."

That last line would make the plane pictured above as a 'clone' if you will.



StudeDave [8D]
San Diego, Ca.
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'57 Parkview 'Betsy' (she's a 2dr wagon...)
'57 Commander DeLuxe 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion Custom 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

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[BobGlasscock]

Thanks, Studedave57. Your info matches exactly with the poster shown at the show. It simply didn't address the serial number change. The number on the poster is 44-83575. Did they change it to indicate a rebuild?

'50 Champion, 1 family owner

[StudeDave57]

quote:Originally posted by StudeDave57



That last line would make the plane pictured above as a 'clone' if you will.

In other words~ 44-83575 is painted to replicate what 42-31909 looked like...
right down to the s/n on the side of the plane.


StudeDave [8D]

[BobGlasscock]

Well, that's sort of disappointing, in a way. It ought to be advertised as the plane it is, not as a plane it isn't. I could understand they rebuilt it and renumbered it, but painting my bullet-nose two-tone gold and white won't make it a '57 Golden Hawk. OMG, I hadn't thought of that! I'm going to the paint store tomorrow...

'50 Champion, 1 family owner

[StudeDave57]

quote:Originally posted by BobGlasscock

Well, that's sort of disappointing, in a way. It ought to be advertised as the plane it is, not as a plane it isn't.

The sign shows it as "44-83575" then what's the problem? That's it's real number. It'd be like using a s/n plate (and/or body tag) to say you have a car you don't. But a little more legal in the case of the plane, as I'm sure it's original builder's plate is still there. Paint comes off...

Not all of the historic aircraft from World War 2 were saved as they should/could have been!!! [:0] [V]

StudeDave [8D]

[DEEPNHOCK]

My late father was in the 7th AAF and then the 8th AAF in WWII.
He was a machinist that would do the 'special factory modifications' to both new planes
going into service and updates on the planes already in service.
I have a lot of stories that he shared with me, but I had to bug hime to open up and tell me about those times.
Too bad we lost him a ling time ago...at age 50[V]
Here's to you, Dad!
Jeff[8D]

quote:Originally posted by StudeDave57
I started to post my answer, but thought I'd better check first. Turns out I was right!!! From Wikpedia~
"A block 30 B-17G manufactured by the Boeing Company, she was nicknamed after the last three digits of her serial number: 42-31909. She was added to the USAAF inventory on December 15, 1943, and flown overseas on February 5, 1944. [u]After depot modifications</u>, she was delivered to the 91st BG at RAF Bassingbourn, England, on February 24, 1944, as a replacement aircraft, one of the last B-17s received in factory-applied camouflage paint.
B-17G-85-DL, 44-83575, civil register N93012, owned and flown by The Collings Foundation, Stow, Massachusetts, currently appears at airshows marked as the historic Nine-O-Nine."
That last line would make the plane pictured above as a 'clone' if you will.

[Roscomacaw]

Just as our beloved Studebakers were quickly relegated to the back rows of used car lots or shuttled into wrecking yards - a lot of war machinery that had fantastic action history was summarily smelted and turned into new planes after WWII.
And again, like our Studes, some survived with sheltered or limited use - LONG ENOUGH for nostalgia to kick in and make folks wanna save what was left.[^] If it hadn't been for WWII leftovers serving with the fledgling ANG units and in foreign air forces, there's be WAY less such examples to enjoy today.[V]

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