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mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 05:40 PM
Hello I am posting this in the hopes that I may get some guidance and information as to how to go about trying to track down my father's 1959 Silverhawk sold in Huntsville, AL in 1961 to pay for my birth. It was a burgandy or maroon color and my mother believed that it was a 4 door. My father passed away almost two years ago and I wished I would have had the insight to have learned more about this special vehicle before he passed. Better still I wished there would have been some crazy way I could have gotten it back for him before he did pass away. As my brothers have always been kind of sore at the fact that he had to sell it because of me. If it is still around I would request pictures of it to give to my mother and brothers and sister. And maybe we can all start to heal a little. Thank you for any information or suggestions that I may be given for this crazy idea of mine!
Sincerely,
mydaddys_silverhawk

studegary
10-28-2006, 06:57 PM
I believe that we would need better information to lend much of a hand. If it was a Silver Hawk, it was two doors. If it was a 1959 Studebaker with four doors, it was a Lark. There is a big difference. There is probably a very slight chance that the car still exists. You would need to dig up the number that it was registered/titled with, either engine or serial number, in order to have a chance to trace the car. Do you have anything further to go on, such as; bill of sale for purchase or sale, registration or title papers, pictures?

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
10-28-2006, 06:57 PM
I believe that we would need better information to lend much of a hand. If it was a Silver Hawk, it was two doors. If it was a 1959 Studebaker with four doors, it was a Lark. There is a big difference. There is probably a very slight chance that the car still exists. You would need to dig up the number that it was registered/titled with, either engine or serial number, in order to have a chance to trace the car. Do you have anything further to go on, such as; bill of sale for purchase or sale, registration or title papers, pictures?

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 08:04 PM
Thank you studegary! That is just the info. I needed to know in how to get started. My mother lives in another state and she may be able to retrieve that info. - not sure though. Did they have VIN numbers then? Because I thought perhaps she may have old records of that somewhere. And it was definately a Silverhawk....because, heck that is all I heard growing up! Every now and then the subject would come up.... "How Daddy had to sell the Silverhawk because of me!!" LOL! Geez! But again thank you so much for "steering" me in the right direction!
Best Regards,
Sara
Kingsland, GA

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 08:04 PM
Thank you studegary! That is just the info. I needed to know in how to get started. My mother lives in another state and she may be able to retrieve that info. - not sure though. Did they have VIN numbers then? Because I thought perhaps she may have old records of that somewhere. And it was definately a Silverhawk....because, heck that is all I heard growing up! Every now and then the subject would come up.... "How Daddy had to sell the Silverhawk because of me!!" LOL! Geez! But again thank you so much for "steering" me in the right direction!
Best Regards,
Sara
Kingsland, GA

mbstude
10-28-2006, 08:12 PM
My grandad has a jet black '57 Silver Hawk (nearly identical to a '59)

Here's a black and white pic of it.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/bw-musics.jpg

I see that you're in Kingsland. We're in Hazlehurst, just a couple hours away. If you're ever in the area, stop by and have a look at our cars! We have about 20 or so 'runner' Studebakers, plus several more junkers.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/2006/10/studillac.html (Studillac info wanted!)

mbstude
10-28-2006, 08:12 PM
My grandad has a jet black '57 Silver Hawk (nearly identical to a '59)

Here's a black and white pic of it.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/bw-musics.jpg

I see that you're in Kingsland. We're in Hazlehurst, just a couple hours away. If you're ever in the area, stop by and have a look at our cars! We have about 20 or so 'runner' Studebakers, plus several more junkers.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/2006/10/studillac.html (Studillac info wanted!)

studegary
10-28-2006, 08:41 PM
The cars then did not have anything identified as a VIN. The cars had serial numbers, engine numbers and body numbers. VIN stands for vehicle identification number. Some states used the serial number as the VIN and other states used the engine number as the VIN. New York State used the engine number for the VIN in the '50s, but someone from Alabama will have to tell you what they used at that time. In any event, post any number that you can locate on this forum and someone will tell you what the number is and probably more.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
10-28-2006, 08:41 PM
The cars then did not have anything identified as a VIN. The cars had serial numbers, engine numbers and body numbers. VIN stands for vehicle identification number. Some states used the serial number as the VIN and other states used the engine number as the VIN. New York State used the engine number for the VIN in the '50s, but someone from Alabama will have to tell you what they used at that time. In any event, post any number that you can locate on this forum and someone will tell you what the number is and probably more.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 09:20 PM
Hey Matthew,
Yeah I thought I saw someone from Georgia and Hazlehurst sounded familiar. Is Hazelhurst near Homerville? Thank you for your post and the pics....they're awesome! Do y'all sell your cars or is this just a family inherited hobby? Thanks again!
Sara
Kingsland (GO DAWGS!!)

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 09:20 PM
Hey Matthew,
Yeah I thought I saw someone from Georgia and Hazlehurst sounded familiar. Is Hazelhurst near Homerville? Thank you for your post and the pics....they're awesome! Do y'all sell your cars or is this just a family inherited hobby? Thanks again!
Sara
Kingsland (GO DAWGS!!)

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 09:27 PM
Hi Gary! Thanks a lot for the education on VINS and for also your continued feedback. As soon as I learn more I will definately post as many numbers as I can gather from my mother!
Sara
Kingsland, GA

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 09:27 PM
Hi Gary! Thanks a lot for the education on VINS and for also your continued feedback. As soon as I learn more I will definately post as many numbers as I can gather from my mother!
Sara
Kingsland, GA

mbstude
10-28-2006, 09:56 PM
quote:Hey Matthew,
Yeah I thought I saw someone from Georgia and Hazlehurst sounded familiar. Is Hazelhurst near Homerville? Thank you for your post and the pics....they're awesome! Do y'all sell your cars or is this just a family inherited hobby? Thanks again!
Sara
Kingsland

I;m not sure where Homerville is. I think I've heard of it though. [:o)]
No, our cars are not for sale. (The runners are keepers) There's enough interest in my whole family that everyone has to have a couple. (More than 1 at least!) [^]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/2006/10/studillac.html (Studillac info wanted!)

mbstude
10-28-2006, 09:56 PM
quote:Hey Matthew,
Yeah I thought I saw someone from Georgia and Hazlehurst sounded familiar. Is Hazelhurst near Homerville? Thank you for your post and the pics....they're awesome! Do y'all sell your cars or is this just a family inherited hobby? Thanks again!
Sara
Kingsland

I;m not sure where Homerville is. I think I've heard of it though. [:o)]
No, our cars are not for sale. (The runners are keepers) There's enough interest in my whole family that everyone has to have a couple. (More than 1 at least!) [^]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/2006/10/studillac.html (Studillac info wanted!)

JDP
10-28-2006, 10:47 PM
Nice talking to you on the phone and happy to see you found you're way in here. It's unlikely we'll find that exact car, it may well not be around any longer.

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JDP
10-28-2006, 10:47 PM
Nice talking to you on the phone and happy to see you found you're way in here. It's unlikely we'll find that exact car, it may well not be around any longer.

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
Studebaker On The Net
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Studebaker News Group
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Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 11:09 PM
Hello Again John!
Yeah you may be right about it being unlikely....at this point I am not even sure if my mother will even have any of the documents. But through the process of trying to find out one way or the other maybe it will help me to heal. It's crazy of all the things I should have asked my father would have been about our Silverhawk. I guess I was afraid to remind him about it! LOL! It is a beautiful car, though I have always loved the older cars...guess I got that from my father.
Sara
Kingsland, GA

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 11:09 PM
Hello Again John!
Yeah you may be right about it being unlikely....at this point I am not even sure if my mother will even have any of the documents. But through the process of trying to find out one way or the other maybe it will help me to heal. It's crazy of all the things I should have asked my father would have been about our Silverhawk. I guess I was afraid to remind him about it! LOL! It is a beautiful car, though I have always loved the older cars...guess I got that from my father.
Sara
Kingsland, GA

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 11:19 PM
Hey Matthew,
So where is Hazlehurst....near Richmond Hill by chance? I personally do not see how anybody could part with any older model car period!Especially if they had to restore it! And I think it is especially cool that you have this awesome knowledge and appreciation for them....particularly the Studebaker. My mother recalls that the company moved to Canada (she thinks). Who know maybe our old Silverhawk will be in your family's care right here in Georgia! Wouldn't that be wild???!!
Sara
Kingland

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 11:19 PM
Hey Matthew,
So where is Hazlehurst....near Richmond Hill by chance? I personally do not see how anybody could part with any older model car period!Especially if they had to restore it! And I think it is especially cool that you have this awesome knowledge and appreciation for them....particularly the Studebaker. My mother recalls that the company moved to Canada (she thinks). Who know maybe our old Silverhawk will be in your family's care right here in Georgia! Wouldn't that be wild???!!
Sara
Kingland

mbstude
10-28-2006, 11:21 PM
Get a map of GA, and draw a line from Brunswick to Macon. We're right in the middle. :D

There's no '59 Silver Hawk in our collection, none. That would be a little odd though if it was!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/ (Studillac info wanted!)

mbstude
10-28-2006, 11:21 PM
Get a map of GA, and draw a line from Brunswick to Macon. We're right in the middle. :D

There's no '59 Silver Hawk in our collection, none. That would be a little odd though if it was!

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/ (Studillac info wanted!)

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 11:25 PM
Oh OK....hmmmm. That could be Statesboro or somewhere in Dodge County maybe or just above Jessup? Have you heard of Southeastern Antique Car Club? It is here in Camden County.

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 11:25 PM
Oh OK....hmmmm. That could be Statesboro or somewhere in Dodge County maybe or just above Jessup? Have you heard of Southeastern Antique Car Club? It is here in Camden County.

mbstude
10-28-2006, 11:28 PM
Hazlehurst is in Jeff Davis county. About 1 hour from Jesup. No, I've not heard of that car club. We're mostly Stude-only people. [8D]

Here's a map. ;)
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Hazlehurst,+GA&ie=UTF8&om=0&z=9&ll=32.054645,-82.633667&spn=0.661106,2.090149&iwloc=addr

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/ (Studillac info wanted!)

mbstude
10-28-2006, 11:28 PM
Hazlehurst is in Jeff Davis county. About 1 hour from Jesup. No, I've not heard of that car club. We're mostly Stude-only people. [8D]

Here's a map. ;)
http://maps.google.com/maps?q=Hazlehurst,+GA&ie=UTF8&om=0&z=9&ll=32.054645,-82.633667&spn=0.661106,2.090149&iwloc=addr

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/ (Studillac info wanted!)

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 11:38 PM
Thanks for the map! I kind of figured you were on the way to Dodge County....now I know why Hazlehurst sounded so familiar. About 4 or 5 years ago my husband and I traveled through there to McRae to visit our priest who had relocated from our church in St.Marys to another church in McRae. Actually I think he was taking over two churches if I remember correctly. But on our way back we took a different route. We decided to cut over to Alma and then Waycross to head back home. So, we may have to find our way back there someday and check out your collection.

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-28-2006, 11:38 PM
Thanks for the map! I kind of figured you were on the way to Dodge County....now I know why Hazlehurst sounded so familiar. About 4 or 5 years ago my husband and I traveled through there to McRae to visit our priest who had relocated from our church in St.Marys to another church in McRae. Actually I think he was taking over two churches if I remember correctly. But on our way back we took a different route. We decided to cut over to Alma and then Waycross to head back home. So, we may have to find our way back there someday and check out your collection.

mbstude
10-29-2006, 08:13 AM
If you went from Waycross to Hazlehurst, you passed our place. It's right on highway 23.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/ (Studillac info wanted!)

mbstude
10-29-2006, 08:13 AM
If you went from Waycross to Hazlehurst, you passed our place. It's right on highway 23.

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/ (Studillac info wanted!)

Eman
10-29-2006, 06:00 PM
If it was sold in Huntsville, maybe someone from the North Alabama chapter of the SDC could help. Here's a link to their officers:
http://www.alabamastudes.com/?page_id=17

Hope that helps!:)



[img=left]http://www.bulletshots.net/images/stella3.jpg[/img=left]1951 Commander Starlight Coupe (aka "Stella")
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Eman
10-29-2006, 06:00 PM
If it was sold in Huntsville, maybe someone from the North Alabama chapter of the SDC could help. Here's a link to their officers:
http://www.alabamastudes.com/?page_id=17

Hope that helps!:)



[img=left]http://www.bulletshots.net/images/stella3.jpg[/img=left]1951 Commander Starlight Coupe (aka "Stella")
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mydaddys_silverhawk
10-30-2006, 01:50 AM
Hi Eman thank you so much! This is awesome to get a local contact! And I will definately let you know what I have learned! Thanks again!
Gratefully,
Sara
Kingsland, GA

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-30-2006, 01:50 AM
Hi Eman thank you so much! This is awesome to get a local contact! And I will definately let you know what I have learned! Thanks again!
Gratefully,
Sara
Kingsland, GA

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-30-2006, 02:17 AM
[quote]Originally posted by mbstude

If you went from Waycross to Hazlehurst, you passed our place. It's right on highway 23.

Yeah you are only just a couple of hours from here. I'd like to come out there maybe on a Sunday with my family and see your collection. Are there gonna be any car shows in your area in November?
Sara
Kingsland

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-30-2006, 02:17 AM
[quote]Originally posted by mbstude

If you went from Waycross to Hazlehurst, you passed our place. It's right on highway 23.

Yeah you are only just a couple of hours from here. I'd like to come out there maybe on a Sunday with my family and see your collection. Are there gonna be any car shows in your area in November?
Sara
Kingsland

mbstude
10-30-2006, 08:32 AM
There's nothing happening around here anytime soon. (car show wise) However, in March we have a pretty big sized Rally. People from all over drive their cars and just have fun. We give 1 trophy per class. It's more about driving and enjoying your car rather than showing and judging. There's always a nice turnout fot Studes.

Yes, I think any Sunday (or Saturday) would be great for a 'tour' of our shop. (It isn't that big. :)) We're only there on weekends, and not every weekend at that. Even so, we'll be glad to show you around. ;)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mbstude
10-30-2006, 08:32 AM
There's nothing happening around here anytime soon. (car show wise) However, in March we have a pretty big sized Rally. People from all over drive their cars and just have fun. We give 1 trophy per class. It's more about driving and enjoying your car rather than showing and judging. There's always a nice turnout fot Studes.

Yes, I think any Sunday (or Saturday) would be great for a 'tour' of our shop. (It isn't that big. :)) We're only there on weekends, and not every weekend at that. Even so, we'll be glad to show you around. ;)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-30-2006, 08:51 AM
OK, cool! A "tour" would be great, thank you for inviting me out there! I'll let you know what weekend it might be. It will more thank likely be on a Sunday as my husband works Saturdays. Thanks again Matthew. And I can't wait to see your grandad's '57 it is a beauty!

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-30-2006, 08:51 AM
OK, cool! A "tour" would be great, thank you for inviting me out there! I'll let you know what weekend it might be. It will more thank likely be on a Sunday as my husband works Saturdays. Thanks again Matthew. And I can't wait to see your grandad's '57 it is a beauty!

mbstude
10-30-2006, 08:53 AM
As far as the '57, it's no show car, but a beauty nonetheless. we have to redo the brakes again, as I went to back it out yesterday and they locked up. :( Oh well. But it's still cool to look at. [8D]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mbstude
10-30-2006, 08:53 AM
As far as the '57, it's no show car, but a beauty nonetheless. we have to redo the brakes again, as I went to back it out yesterday and they locked up. :( Oh well. But it's still cool to look at. [8D]

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-30-2006, 09:02 AM
The black and white you sent me is awesome....is that an old picture of it? Or was that taken recently? I'll have to ask my mother if there are any taken of ours. If so I will figure out a way to post them here. Take care and catch up with you later Matthew! Have a great day! :)

mydaddys_silverhawk
10-30-2006, 09:02 AM
The black and white you sent me is awesome....is that an old picture of it? Or was that taken recently? I'll have to ask my mother if there are any taken of ours. If so I will figure out a way to post them here. Take care and catch up with you later Matthew! Have a great day! :)

DEEPNHOCK
10-30-2006, 09:26 AM
Matthew..
How about the Daytona Turkey Run Thanksgiving weekend.
http://www.turkeyrun.com/
The Studebaker club section has 60 spots reserved, so Stude types can hang out together.
(Contact Rick Courtier, or Emily Skelly for club parking info)
Jeff[8D]



quote:Originally posted by mbstude

There's nothing happening around here anytime soon. (car show wise) However, in March we have a pretty big sized Rally. People from all over drive their cars and just have fun. We give 1 trophy per class. It's more about driving and enjoying your car rather than showing and judging. There's always a nice turnout fot Studes.

Yes, I think any Sunday (or Saturday) would be great for a 'tour' of our shop. (It isn't that big. :)) We're only there on weekends, and not every weekend at that. Even so, we'll be glad to show you around. ;)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/




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'61 Hawk (project)
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DEEPNHOCK
10-30-2006, 09:26 AM
Matthew..
How about the Daytona Turkey Run Thanksgiving weekend.
http://www.turkeyrun.com/
The Studebaker club section has 60 spots reserved, so Stude types can hang out together.
(Contact Rick Courtier, or Emily Skelly for club parking info)
Jeff[8D]



quote:Originally posted by mbstude

There's nothing happening around here anytime soon. (car show wise) However, in March we have a pretty big sized Rally. People from all over drive their cars and just have fun. We give 1 trophy per class. It's more about driving and enjoying your car rather than showing and judging. There's always a nice turnout fot Studes.

Yes, I think any Sunday (or Saturday) would be great for a 'tour' of our shop. (It isn't that big. :)) We're only there on weekends, and not every weekend at that. Even so, we'll be glad to show you around. ;)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/latestsig.jpg


http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/
http://thestudillac.blogspot.com/




http://i77.photobucket.com/albums/j54/deepnhock/Jeff%20Rice%20Studebaker%20Pictures/1937StudebakerCoupeExpressJeffRicee.jpg

DEEPNHOCK at Gmail.com
Brooklet, Georgia
'37 Coupe Express (never ending project)
'37 Coupe Express Trailer (project)
'61 Hawk (project)
http://community.webshots.com/user/deepnhock

CHAMP
10-30-2006, 09:27 AM
If you can't find your Dad's Hawk maybe you can find another Hawk. Maybe check classifieds in Turning Wheels Magazine and also e/bay. Just be very careful with e/bay sometimes pictures can be misleading.

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

CHAMP
10-30-2006, 09:27 AM
If you can't find your Dad's Hawk maybe you can find another Hawk. Maybe check classifieds in Turning Wheels Magazine and also e/bay. Just be very careful with e/bay sometimes pictures can be misleading.

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.