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Dick Steinkamp
05-21-2008, 09:30 AM
I got this Hurst type saddle mount in a parts deal recently. It's new and identical to the ones that Hurst marketed in the late 50's. It mounts the engine off the front like 55-58 Chevy's did.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/motor%20mount/mounts004.jpg


I've got it on eBay here...

http://tinyurl.com/3hj953




http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Alan
05-21-2008, 09:49 AM
It looks nice, thing I don't like about them is you can't run the stock fuel pump and on C's and K's you have to butcher the back half of the motor mount or grind down the rivets remove the mount and use the bolt on Lark and Avanti type and then you might have to space the engine up a little since the Lark type mounts are about 1 1/2" shorter, height wise.

Dick Steinkamp
05-21-2008, 09:53 AM
quote:Originally posted by Alan

It looks nice, thing I don't like about them is you can't run the stock fuel pump and on C's and K's you have to butcher the back half of the motor mount or grind down the rivets remove the mount and use the bolt on Lark and Avanti type and then you might have to space the engine up a little since the Lark type mounts are about 1 1/2" shorter, height wise.


Yep...ANY engine swap is going to require some compromises.

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Roscomacaw
05-21-2008, 11:15 AM
Geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeezzz.... WHO would do something like THAT??? [:I] Would that be for a stovebolt6 or a V[8] [:0]

Miscreant Studebaker nut in California's central valley.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

stan zoerner
05-21-2008, 01:22 PM
Remember to check that V8 to see if it has holes in the front of the block.Later engines had holes in one side only.Also,IMHO,If you can use mounts that bolt on to the side of the engine so they don't rock with the torque. Or a good torque strap would do:D

dcolliau
05-21-2008, 02:01 PM
I have a big block Chevrolet mounted in my 51 Champion. I used the stock Studebaker frame mounts and made a pair of engine mounts to use the round biscuit insulators. I was suprised that it was easy. I also had to clear the center steer rack that I had mounted. Slight modification to the firewall was required, but if it had been a small block chevy it would have dropped right in. Anything is possible in these cars.:D
Don

Don Colliau

studeski
05-21-2008, 03:43 PM
IIRC it was 55-57. 58 started mounts on the side.

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/dakota01.jpg[/img=left]
"One after another they volunteered how in their families and in their
communities they were expected to be responsible for their behavior, how
honesty was assumed to be the rule, not the exception. They also talked
matter-of-factly about the sense of duty to their country, a sentiment not
much in fashion anymore."

Roscomacaw
05-21-2008, 04:28 PM
Ski, weren't you involved in developing the Studillacs???[}:)][:o)]:D

Miscreant Studebaker nut in California's central valley.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

lstude
05-21-2008, 05:05 PM
This brings back memories. I ordered one of these when I was in college. I used it to install a 327 Corvette engine in my 62 GT Hawk.

The sad part was that I left my 40,000 mile 289 Stude engine in my friend's garage, where we did the swap, and never went back to get it. :( They don't live there anymore, but I went back a few years ago and it was gone.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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studeski
05-21-2008, 09:29 PM
quote:Originally posted by Mr.Biggs

Ski, weren't you involved in developing the Studillacs???[}:)][:o)]:D

Miscreant Studebaker nut in California's central valley.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door





I should have clarified 55-57 Chevy engines.

And the answer is no but I had a Pontolet once.

What do you get when you cross a Toyota with a Chevrolet? A Toylet.



Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/dakota01.jpg[/img=left]
"One after another they volunteered how in their families and in their
communities they were expected to be responsible for their behavior, how
honesty was assumed to be the rule, not the exception. They also talked
matter-of-factly about the sense of duty to their country, a sentiment not
much in fashion anymore."

Dick Steinkamp
05-21-2008, 09:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by studeski

IIRC it was 55-57. 58 started mounts on the side.



Yea, I think you are right, Claude. '58's still had the staggered valve cover hold down bolts, but did have the side motor mounts.



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studeski
05-21-2008, 09:58 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp


quote:Originally posted by studeski

IIRC it was 55-57. 58 started mounts on the side.



Yea, I think you are right, Claude. '58's still had the staggered valve cover hold down bolts, but did have the side motor mounts.



http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg



Yup, and 59 was the last year for staggered valve cover bolts.


Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/dakota01.jpg[/img=left]
"One after another they volunteered how in their families and in their
communities they were expected to be responsible for their behavior, how
honesty was assumed to be the rule, not the exception. They also talked
matter-of-factly about the sense of duty to their country, a sentiment not
much in fashion anymore."

buddymander
05-21-2008, 10:10 PM
Oh I thought they changed from staggered in 61. But on the subject of studebakers; what do ya get when you cross an elephant with a rhinoceros?

studeclunker
05-21-2008, 10:43 PM
Sigh, thanks, but I'll stick with the engine that's supposed to go in the engine compartment...

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Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

Dick Steinkamp
05-22-2008, 09:17 AM
quote:Originally posted by studeclunker
Sigh, thanks, but I'll stick with the engine that's supposed to go in the engine compartment...



Well, for a Stocker, the engine that's supposed to be there is the stock Studebaker engine. For a Hot Rodder, the stock engine ISN'T supposed to be there. :).

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Dick Steinkamp
05-22-2008, 09:18 AM
quote:Originally posted by buddymander

Oh I thought they changed from staggered in 61. But on the subject of studebakers; what do ya get when you cross an elephant with a rhinoceros?


Elephino. [:o)]

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studeclunker
05-22-2008, 09:53 AM
perhaps you're right, Dick. However, I seem to remember a lot of young men preening like a peacock over their 'improved' motors in their cars back in the sixties and seventies. Studebaker offered more equipment from the factory that was made to fit their motors than any other maker I know of. My sister used to date a fellow who had a Lark he had done a lot of 'improvements' to. The engine in his car looked like it was chromed all over! Gary loved it. I rather thought that chrome would be too much work. Supercharger or no, special transmission or not, I'll stick with stock. There's less complications, less money, and easier maintenance for me. Besides, California has discovered using it's police force for revenue agents. Going fast is just too expensive. Even looking like one could draws way too much attention of the wrong kind.[8] If ever I get any kind of desire for a hot rod, I just go to a local show and admire the ones on display. That way I don't have to polish or pay for it. The former I can do, the latter simply isn't possible.[xx(]

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Home of the famous Mr. Ed!
Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith
Where the heck is Lewiston, CA?

allstateguy
05-22-2008, 10:01 AM
Don't look at this as a thread jack, but if you want a real 50s/60s style Chevy transplant, I have a bellhousing so you can keep the Stude V8 manual trans behind the small block (or big block I guess).

Would go great with the Hurst mount.

Some 52 Commander parts for sale
Looking for (and FOUND!) an early Lark
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q246/allstateguy/altalomalark-1.jpg

Lark Parker
05-22-2008, 02:23 PM
And I'm working on an adapter mount for those Harley-Davidson people that want to use a
Suzuki engine to replace their old knucklehead engine.

They are so much better --- and you can get parts for them!

Just patiently hang in there Indian bike owners, I will help you next.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/larkparker/Miscellaneous/caryreduced.jpg Lark Parker
If at first you don't succeed -- you will get a lot of advice.

52hawk
05-22-2008, 05:18 PM
This turned out to be a funny thread:DTo the chevy in a 'Stude,I'd rather fight than switch![8D]To Lark Parker,i'm sure you'll become a billionaire when you build that HD/Suzizaka kit! Just don't forget the sound system to eminate the Harley rumble[:o)]

Oglesby,Il. http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j273/52hawk/100_0824-1-2.jpg
"Studebaker? It must be hard to find parts for those!"

sirbum
05-23-2008, 09:00 AM
Well, cant figure anybody getting rid of a good stude power plant for some chebbie motorvation. Heck, might as well put a good Rambler 6 in there and get great mileage instead!

PlainBrownR2
05-23-2008, 04:37 PM
hmmm kinda hard to pull a stout 289, but if I were provided a 409, 302(GM early Camaro engine), or L87/L88 427(nasty little Vette engine), with a means to drop 'em in, all bets are off [}:)]

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