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Boogs
05-14-2008, 07:37 PM
Because my technical knowledge is limited to squat and diddly, my first question will be that of an esthetical nature:

How'd everyone decide what color to paint theirs? Is it all about preference? Do you stick with the original? Match the interior?

The Lark I just bought is silver ext and red int - since the interior is in fine shape I'm not touching anything, so it's just exterior I'm wondering about. The current silver/grey I honestly thought was a primer, so I'm not thrilled with it. I'm not interested in red, soooo....

It's certainly something that I don't want to do twice or thrice, so any thoughts on how you chose would be appreciated.

Thanks!
[:I] Lori
Edmonton, Alberta

N8N
05-14-2008, 07:46 PM
I'd get the build sheet for your car and find out what color it was originally. (unless you can tell from simply inspecting the car.) Then decide if a) you like the original color and b) if originality is important to you. If you answered no to both, just find a color you like and go nuts.

Personally I think silver/red would be a nice combo - but it's not my car. If the interior is in good shape, I think I'd probably try to find a color that I liked that would also match the interior. Otherwise your car will look a little awkward unless you change both at the same time :)

Black always looks stunning with red, but is very unforgiving of body issues. I like tan or cream with red as well. A mint green may not be a good choice... Also if you don't have A/C you may wish to stick with a lighter color to minimize the transfer of skin to vinyl in the summer :)

I hear you on the red cars. Just draw too much attention, and sometimes you don't want that.

nate

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55 Commander Starlight
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Dick Steinkamp
05-14-2008, 07:48 PM
Paint it whatever you want [^].

Some would order the build sheet for the car and paint it the color it was painted at the factory.

Some would look at the color chart for Studes made that year and paint it an original color they like.

Some would pick a non original color that turns their crank from the literally MILLIONS available.

All are valid alternatives. It's YOUR car.


A good pro paint job (dismantling the car, removing all trim, windows, etc., repairing rust/dents, removing the old paint, primer, block sand, primer, sealer, color, reassembly, new seals) will cost $8-12k. Adding a color change would be $3-4k more. Also, with a new, pro paint job you will probably want to redo the chrome and stainless since it will usually look shabby against the new paint...another $2-4k. You can certainly get by cheaper, but you may be disappointed in the results.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

BobPalma
05-14-2008, 09:00 PM
:) Is there something wrong with the $499 Presidential Service at MAACO, Dick? [:0]

(I always thought that was reserved for Studebaker's top-line models....) :DBP

Dick Steinkamp
05-14-2008, 09:04 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

:) Is there something wrong with the $499 Presidential Service at MAACO, Dick? [:0]

(I always thought that was reserved for Studebaker's top-line models....) :DBP


I think you even get the windows painted with that level [:o)]

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

rockne10
05-14-2008, 09:13 PM
Once the paint is renewed, a '62 Lark looks good in any color.

There are two arguments for painting it original.
1) You don't need the additional expense of changing the color in the door jambs, trunk and engine compartment.;)
2) You really want to keep it original to get that Pebble Beach trophy.[V]

There can be many reasons for painting it something else. All these reasons must be yours.

Do address all your mechanical/electrical and structural concerns before hyper-venting on the color.

lstude
05-14-2008, 09:17 PM
I had Maaco paint the 62 Lark convertible that I restored in the 80s. Of course I took all the trim off and put it back on myself. It was also a color change since it was white when I bought it. I painted the door posts and trunk and under the hood myself.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/My62Larkconvertiblesm.jpg

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/MyStudebakernobackgroundsm.jpg

Boogs
05-14-2008, 09:29 PM
Yeah, um. I want to keep my house. If a proper paint job is going to cost me that much I think I'm going to start small...like with a bottle of nail polish.... stop scaring the newbie Dick!! [B)]

Warren Webb
05-14-2008, 09:33 PM
When it comes to paint, the old saying "you get what you pay for" applies. I have a neighbor that has had low cost paint jobs & a year later the car looks like it needs a paint job. Cheap materials give cheap results. Places that offer you options in higher costs usually dont offer much more in quality of materials, but rather use the extra money to fund redoing the car at a later date. They also figure on not everyone taking advantage of having to repaint under their warranty, so it inflates their bottom line.

What you might do to help if you do want a color change is use a program such as photoshop & see what your car would look like in different colors. Another thing to take into account is what will it look like if & when it gets chipped. If it is silver now & you paint it a darker color, chances are the chip will be very noticeable & stand out. Your paint is probably a good base unless it has fine cracks in it (commonly called "crows feet") which in that case, one would have to take it down to at least the factory primer. If that isnt done, then as the paint ages, the cracks become wider until it starts to flake off. Mr Steinkamp hit the nail right on the head with his advise to address issues that affect the operation rather than just what it looks like on the outside. I think you'll see, as time goes on, that your car will receive more than the usual attention because of its uniqueness. For me, its rare that I dont get some thumbs up or comment from an onlooker when I drive one of my Studebakers, not that they are show stoppers, but they have a character all their own & people remember them from years ago, when they were a common sight & many times, bring back their own happy memories that the cars of today, looking so alike & bland, cannot provide.

Dick Steinkamp
05-14-2008, 09:38 PM
Sorry about the scare [:0].

Get a few estimates from reputable shops. Preferably ones that you have seen their work. Chat them up a little about "lesser" paint jobs and see if that is something you can live with.

The big part is of course the labor. Any very good paint job is going to take 200+ hours of labor. Do the math at a shop rate of $50-$75. Materials are generally only $800-1500 of the total depending on the type (base/clear vs single stage) and color.

And as Rockne10 said "Do address all your mechanical/electrical and structural concerns before hyper-venting on the color". You can actually have more fun with a good running, dependable, safe Lark with dull paint, than a shiny one that needs mechanical attention. :)

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

DEEPNHOCK
05-14-2008, 10:22 PM
My yellow truck was yellow from day one.
Being the caso that I am, who wants to re-paint a door jamb that had perfectly good 1937 paint on it?;)
Jeff[8D]


quote:Originally posted by Boogs

Because my technical knowledge is limited to squat and diddly, my first question will be that of an esthetical nature:
How'd everyone decide what color to paint theirs? Is it all about preference? Do you stick with the original? Match the interior?
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barnlark
05-14-2008, 10:31 PM
Dick, seriously, post a picture of what you can do with original paint and some of those labor hours only on that...then hope someone that talented is near her. We can't have nail polish and her masking with cotton balls on this '62..

Boogs
05-14-2008, 10:33 PM
LOL :D

gordr
05-14-2008, 11:06 PM
Lori, I don't know how you came to find this car, but welcome to the world of Studebaker!

If you need parts or mechanical repairs, there is a great resource in Edmonton in the person of Curt Lagasse. He is very knowledgeable, and has quite a stock of parts, and parts cars, too. Drop me an e-mail by way of the forum, and I'll send you his phone number. Curt's not on the Internet.

Myself, I'm in Trochu, about 2 1/2 hours south of Edmonton, and I have a fair stock of parts myself.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

barnlark
05-14-2008, 11:08 PM
Lori, below is my favorite combo for a red interior from a recent ebay sale and a fun SDC forum topic...but listen to Rockne10 and get it running safely first, so you don't get stranded and save your pennies for a shiny version of what the door jambs and trunk look like if you can live with it for a while until you know you really like the car.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/newshooter44/pics085.jpg

Of course, I didn't listen to that advice and re-did my whole car a different '60 color than what it was stock that made me happy. Think "lottery winner" only and keep your house. It's a lot of work..

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/newshooter44/S7001117.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
05-14-2008, 11:08 PM
quote:Originally posted by gordr

Lori, I don't know how you came to find this car,


If you live near Gord and found a Studebaker that Gord didn't know about, you have to surrender your "newbie" title. That has NEVER happend before! [:0] [8D]

Seriously, Gord and his buddies in Alberta can keep that car running forever for you. Join their SDC chapter...

http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/lc_AB.asp

...you'll be glad you did.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
05-14-2008, 11:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by barnlark

Lori, below is my favorite combo for a red interior from a recent ebay sale...


Hey, that was MY ebay sale. That was one sweet Lark. Went to Australia. White does look good with a red interior.

More pictures of that car here...

http://s149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/1960%20stude%20vert/



http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

barnlark
05-14-2008, 11:13 PM
Sorry Dick, I loved that car and those pictures. My car was originally white sand and RDV 5..

Dick Steinkamp
05-14-2008, 11:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by barnlark

Sorry Dick, I loved that car and those pictures. My car was originally white sand and RDV 5..


I like your red one even better! Convertibles NEED to be red [^]

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
05-14-2008, 11:16 PM
quote:Originally posted by barnlark

Dick, seriously, post a picture of what you can do with original paint and some of those labor hours only on that...then hope someone that talented is near her. We can't have nail polish and her masking with cotton balls on this '62..


Here's that Lark Shine (pat. pend.) thread...

http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/sdc_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=18268&SearchTerms=lark+shine

I don't think she is crazy about the current color, so shining it might not be an option.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

barnlark
05-14-2008, 11:20 PM
That's it...amazing.

Michidan
05-15-2008, 09:01 AM
I think it took me 2 years to pick a color for my Stude. Which was fine because bodywork takes forever to do.
Assuming you are not stuck on repaining it the original color....

You already know which colors you DON'T want it to be. Everyone has a list like that. So from there consider what is left. What will be OK with the red interior? That eliminates some more. And it was said here ealier that black, while nice, requires an extra degree of body prep to pull off. So it might not be in your budget.

So now you are down to 3 or 4 "groups" of colors. Check out parking lots and new car lots over the next month. Here you'll see new shiny paint jobs in real sunlight. I looked in a lot of old car books but nothing is as good as seeing it first hand.

Plus it is May and Car show season is here! Walk them, and you'll find a color. Hopefully you find the owner, and he'll know the color name so you can ask for it later.

Dan
52 hardtop
www.studebakerhardtop.com

Scott
05-15-2008, 09:44 AM
If you don't like what's there now and you don't like red, I would suggest white. That always looks good with red. Studebaker had some odd combinations with red interiors (I seem to recall green, gold and blue being stock) and some of them will make most people's eyes water. White is clean and easy on the eyes. Of course black can work, too.

barnlark
05-15-2008, 08:44 PM
Here's a rare combo for a Stude red interior.. with jonquil yellow.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/newshooter44/DSCN1122.jpg

Boogs
05-15-2008, 08:51 PM
Thanks for the Alberta link Dick, I'll get myself hooked up!

I had an epiphany today - I might have come up with the color (without really knowing what it's called) - sort of an irridescent pearl! White, but not quite. Will go with the red, and not seem really off of the white accents inside.

Barnlark - neat that you'd suggest yellow, that's what the EX!owner wanted to paint it. May come to a back up color if the pearl-y thing I look for isn't what I thought it'd be.

I know that the paint will come last, but it's the only thing I get to 'plan' since someone else is going to have to do the under-the-hood bits.

Does anyone know if they all came with radios, or were they options that were just replaced with a plate if not wanted? There's no radio in mine, and the EX!owner (I like saying that) said that there was just a plate there before he got it.

Thanks everyone, this is fun. [:o)]

rockne10
05-15-2008, 09:08 PM
Radio was an option but, by 1962, there were probably more with them than without.

Andy R.
05-15-2008, 10:04 PM
I am certainly fond of that metallic grey Studebaker used, as it's on my Hawk. Many seem surprised that it's an original color, as it is currently in vogue with modern import coupes. If it looks like the 1962 Lark Daytona that appears on this site's header, I'd go for it.

That said, I recall a '63 Lark at a zone meet that was just stunning - Champagne Gold w/Bordeaux Red interior.
Something about that color compliments about any color next to it. Or maybe that's just the wine(s) talking...

Andy
62 GT
http://a6.vox.com/6a00cdf7ec2443094f00e398c6501e0004-pi

barnlark
05-15-2008, 10:45 PM
[quote]Originally posted by Boogs

"I had an epiphany today - I might have come up with the color (without really knowing what it's called) - sort of an irridescent pearl! White, but not quite. Will go with the red, and not seem really off of the white accents inside.

Barnlark - neat that you'd suggest yellow, that's what the EX!owner wanted to paint it. May come to a back up color if the pearl-y thing I look for isn't what I thought it'd be."

Lori,
I was not suggesting yellow; as I said above, white with a red interior is my fav. That jonquil yellow Lark is a friend of mine's car and it came with that combo stock. I was more or less agreeing with Scott as to the unique pairing Studebaker came up with on occasion. A pearl, while not an original color, is a great idea and since it's a four door it won't devalue it at all. Explain to the body shop that this is your new princess carriage and it should look accordingly. Remember to post pictures of the car's progress like Tracy and Steve so we can enjoy the transformation.
Forum..dare we tell her she can find a wrecked donor skytop roof, cut it off and have a sunroof on this baby while she's at it?

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/newshooter44/DSCN0087-1.jpg

gordr
05-15-2008, 11:19 PM
quote:Originally posted by Boogs

Thanks for the Alberta link Dick, I'll get myself hooked up!

I had an epiphany today - I might have come up with the color (without really knowing what it's called) - sort of an irridescent pearl! White, but not quite. Will go with the red, and not seem really off of the white accents inside.

Barnlark - neat that you'd suggest yellow, that's what the EX!owner wanted to paint it. May come to a back up color if the pearl-y thing I look for isn't what I thought it'd be.

I know that the paint will come last, but it's the only thing I get to 'plan' since someone else is going to have to do the under-the-hood bits.

Does anyone know if they all came with radios, or were they options that were just replaced with a plate if not wanted? There's no radio in mine, and the EX!owner (I like saying that) said that there was just a plate there before he got it.

Thanks everyone, this is fun. [:o)]


Yep, they offered radios as an option. You see a lot of radio-delete cars here in Canada. In fact, you see a lot of very plain low-trim Studebakers here.

If you want a factory-type radio, the AM radios are easy to get. I have a number of the '63-'66 type radios, and I think they will fit a '62 except for the face plate. But unless the original look is important to you, I'd suggest that you install a modern stereo. Some cutting of the dash might be required, but probably not so much that the radio face plate or delete plate won't hide it, so you can cut without fear of doing irreversible harm. You can buy car stereos now that play mp3 files off a thumb drive, so you can keep many hours of music on your key chain.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands