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53champion
05-11-2008, 02:10 PM
I was reading an article about the 49 Landcrusier and the picutres in the magazine showed the car with suicide doors on the back.

In a local auto sales magazine there was a 49 LandCrusier for sale without suicide doors it appears.

Were the cars available with the option for Suicide doors?

Mark57
05-11-2008, 02:17 PM
All '47 - '52 Studebaker 4 door cars had "suicide doors" for the rear doors. I do not think there was an option to have it different for those cars.

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doug
05-11-2008, 02:18 PM
no, suicide doors were installed.

8E45E
05-11-2008, 02:42 PM
quote:Originally posted by 53champion

I was reading an article about the 49 Landcrusier and the picutres in the magazine showed the car with suicide doors on the back.

In a local auto sales magazine there was a 49 LandCrusier for sale without suicide doors it appears.

Were the cars available with the option for Suicide doors?


The only time the buyer had a choice of which way the rear doors opened on a Studebaker was in 1941 and 1942, and only on the Presidents and Commanders. (Confusingly), the model with the rear doors hinged on the B-pillar was called the Land Cruiser and used a 'B' designation for the body style. The suicide door counter part was called the Cruising Sedan, and had a 'W' body designation.

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Craig

53champion
05-11-2008, 02:54 PM
Thank you for your response's. This answered a question i had.

Is $2800 a good price for a 49 LandCrusier?

studegary
05-11-2008, 03:06 PM
quote:Originally posted by 53champion

Thank you for your response's. This answered a question i had.

Is $2800 a good price for a 49 LandCrusier?


IMHO, it would have to be quite a nice car for that much. On the other hand, that is not much to pay for a car that you like. Is the car complete, drivable, presentable?

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

53champion
05-11-2008, 03:09 PM
The car is about 110 Miles away so were going to call the owner and find out what state the car is in before we go have a look at the car, if the car is not running/driveable then we do not think that the car is worth it.

The ad states it was previously a 1 owner car and has western origins.

Chris Pile
05-11-2008, 03:38 PM
FYI -
It is my understanding that when a 4 door car has doors opening normally in front and suicide style in the rear, that is referred to as "kissing doors".

Chris Pile
Midway Chapter SDC
The Studebaker Special

buddymander
05-11-2008, 06:17 PM
I think when you have two together it's called a "suicide pact".

monomaniac
05-12-2008, 12:45 AM
Suicide doors is an old term, likely known all over North America.
"Kissing doors" -- never heard that one before. Certainly not common.

Lovely photo Craig.

4961Studebaker
05-12-2008, 09:50 AM
Never heard the kissing door term, And I alway's thought they were suicide cause if you parked on the street and stepped out the door as another car clipped the door you were going to get smashed/killed.

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studegary
05-12-2008, 01:15 PM
The way that I remember it is that the front opening doors are called suicide doors is because if they opened when the car was moving at a good clip, you would be pulled out of the car if you instinctively grabbed for the door to close it. A door that opens from the rear is held shut by the air flow when you drive along.
I can remember being in the back seat of a 1948 Dodge when the rear door came open at speed. Not a fun experience.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

raprice
05-12-2008, 02:20 PM
Gary is absolutely correct. Only the front doors (if they're hinged at the B pillar) are suicide doors.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop

Jerry Forrester
05-12-2008, 03:16 PM
You are all wrong. The reason they are called suicide doors is the same reason people say "Studebaker? You can't tell wheather them thangs are a coming or a going". No reason for it what-so-ever.

Jerry Forrester
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bams50
05-12-2008, 03:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by Chris Pile

FYI -
It is my understanding that when a 4 door car has doors opening normally in front and suicide style in the rear, that is referred to as "kissing doors".


Kissing doors?!? That's a new one that made me laugh out loud:D I'll have to share that one[^]

I've also heard them called "butterfly doors"... as Jerry said, no reason I can see.



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Dwain G.
05-12-2008, 03:24 PM
Safety locks were an accessory for those cars, although I've never seen any installed. Basically, they are a spring loaded dead-bolt through the B pillar. Closing the front door pushes the bolt back into the rear door frame.

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Jeff_H
05-13-2008, 08:18 AM
I've a cousin that happened to when he was a small boy. His Mom (my aunt) was driving a '50 or '51?? Lincoln and he opened the rear door and got sucked out and rolled down the road. Must not have been too badly hurt. Was not the last time he did something dumb either.


quote:
The way that I remember it is that the front opening doors are called suicide doors is because if they opened when the car was moving at a good clip, you would be pulled out of the car if you instinctively grabbed for the door to close it.


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Johnnywiffer
05-13-2008, 08:36 AM
So how many suicide doors does it take to make a suicide knob? And why?

John

buddymander
05-13-2008, 09:32 AM
Only one. But the door has to want to knob.