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Swifster
05-10-2008, 03:59 PM
OK, as mentioned, I went back to this little repair/salvage yard to scope out what they have. First, let me apoligize to those with dial up. There are a lot of pictures. They are downsized to be reasonable and large enough to see detail.

On most of these cars, the serial number (S/N) and data plate were accessible, many were not or only one might be. Before the pictures of each car, I've included any information I could supply and optional equipment that I noticed. I'll say this about the engines. There is enough rust to obscure the engine number so I'm not sure if they are 259's or 289's. This is basically a 'pick your part' type of yard. If you are interested in anything you see, let me know. By the way, the sheet metal looks 10 times worse in person than they do in the pictures.

Now, without further adu...

1964 Daytona 4-Dr. - S/N: ? - 64V Y9 1919
V8-2V, Auto, A/C, Clock, Std AM
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1963 GT Hawk - S/N: 63V-1018 - 63V K6 106
V8-2V, 4-Spd, Buckets, Push Button AM
This car was supposed to be the display car at the Atlanta Auto Show
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1963 Lark Custom - S/N: 63V-21311 - 63V Y6 2454
V8-2V, Auto, A/C, Std. AM, Power Steering, Manual Brakes
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1962 Lark Deluxe - S/N: 62S-2901 - 62S Y4 873
OHV6, Auto, Manual Steering, Manual Brakes, Radio Delete
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1964 Challenger 4-Dr. - S/N: ? - ?
OHV6 (missing head), 3-Spd, Quad Headlights, Manual Brakes
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1952 Commander State Hdtp. - S/N: 8269589 - 3H K2 12272
V8-2V The trim looks as bad as it looks...Sorry Dan :(
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1964 Daytona Hdtp. - S/N: ? - 64V J8 1186
V8-2V, Auto, Reclining Buckets, Power Steering, Manual Drum Brakes, Dana 44
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bams50
05-10-2008, 04:21 PM
Thanks for the pics, Tom. Are you done? Because when I get home tomorrow night I won't be able to open this thread again[:I]

I can't believe the extent of the rust- much worse than even our NY carcasses[:0][B)][xx(][|)]



Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that happiness is a thing called Larking!"

BobGlasscock
05-10-2008, 04:23 PM
Swifster, don't know how much wandering time you have, or want, but-- I would love to find a complete jack for my '50. Base, 'bar'(?), mechanism, handle.

'50 Champion, 1 family owner

Swifster
05-10-2008, 05:04 PM
Bob, I'll check that '50 to see if the jack is still in thr truck next time I'm there.

And Bams, yes, I'm done :D.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

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N8N
05-10-2008, 05:20 PM
If the front suspension isn't too bad on the '52, you oughta snag the control arms for someone that might want to clone an R-3.

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
http://members.cox.net/njnagel

Roscomacaw
05-10-2008, 06:01 PM
Tom,

Geez! Does it rain saltwater there???:( The three pieces of chrome on that 55 would be worth the trouble to save. That stuff's getting rarer by the day. And even tho THAT grille center section may not be ready to bolt onto a Speedster, it IS the same exact part that ALL 55 Studes use. That AND the two side pieces NEED to be saved if possible. Hood and radiator might be worth taking if the guy wasn't gonna ding you too much.
That 52 has door windows, quarter windows and vent wings that will work with the convertibles of 51 & 52. Get the mouldings along the tops of the doors inside and quarters inside.
The 3 rear glass pieces have gotta be getting scarce and the rusty T-pieces at the top and bottom of each glass divider back there. In fact, everything to do with that rear glass ought to be saved.
The grille chrome is surely shot, but the pot metal may be reworkable. Save that one HL bezel too![:I]

Miscreant Studebaker nut in California's central valley.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President two door

Shawn
05-10-2008, 06:44 PM
Tom is this the place between Mulberry and Brandon on the left? If so, is there still a goat running around out back that likes to climb on top of cars? If this is the same place, the guy who used to own the place when I was in high school, 20 years ago, had stories about just about every car and wanted way to much for every piece of rust he had. That part of a 64, easy restore and the guy would want 3 grand for the carcass. That Hawk sat out on hwy 60 for many years and the guy wanted 6 grand for it. I bought some parts for my old stude from him, and probably most of the cars I used to pick from are still there. I would probably get what I could get soon. I know here in Lakeland the EPA has really been on the junkyards. I have to think he cannot be far off.

Former owner/owner with Dad:
58 Packard Golden Hawk
62 Hawk
62 Lark
63 Lark
64 Lark
63 Champ
Currently I own:
84 Mercedes 380SL
92 Range Rover (for sale)
99 BMW 323I
and helping a 16 year old rebuild an 86 Saab 900

Lakeland, FL

sals54
05-10-2008, 08:46 PM
Dang that stuff is awful. I can't even imagine what it would take to get any of the body or trim parts off any of those cars.
BTW, a neighbor has one of those Mercedes sedans in his driveway, but won't sell. He also has next to it, a 65 Mustang Fastback, 289 AT, but won't sell it either. He's saving them for his grandson, who is 11 or 12. The old guy smokes like a chimney and probably won't make to his grandsons next birthday, though. Too sad.

sals54
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Swifster
05-10-2008, 09:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by Shawn

Tom is this the place between Mulberry and Brandon on the left? If so, is there still a goat running around out back that likes to climb on top of cars? If this is the same place, the guy who used to own the place when I was in high school, 20 years ago, had stories about just about every car and wanted way to much for every piece of rust he had. That part of a 64, easy restore and the guy would want 3 grand for the carcass. That Hawk sat out on hwy 60 for many years and the guy wanted 6 grand for it. I bought some parts for my old stude from him, and probably most of the cars I used to pick from are still there. I would probably get what I could get soon. I know here in Lakeland the EPA has really been on the junkyards. I have to think he cannot be far off.

Shawn, same place, and there's now a herd of goats :D. He's come down on that Hawk, but all I'd be interested in is the T-10. He's thinking the trans is worth almost $1000 [:o)]. I'll know how reasonable he's going to be my next time thru. I'm going for the A/C unit first. Any more than $50 and I'm out of there. That Mercedes has piqued my interest, so I'll ask about that too.

The guy is a good old boy who may think he's sitting on a good mine. Unfortunately, he's got the gleam in his eye for the scrapper. Of course he did say today that the Studes were off limit to the scrapper. I can afford to walk away knowing they'll still be there next month. That, and I'll negotiate hard if I get something just over reasonable.

I'd like that 4-speed, but I've heard there are a few in the area I can get from local members. The only good thing about that trans is that it's still attached and all the hardware would be there. There is somthing to be said for that.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

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Swifster
05-10-2008, 09:37 PM
quote:Originally posted by sals54

BTW, a neighbor has one of those Mercedes sedans in his driveway, but won't sell. He also has next to it, a 65 Mustang Fastback, 289 AT, but won't sell it either. He's saving them for his grandson, who is 11 or 12. The old guy smokes like a chimney and probably won't make to his grandsons next birthday, though. Too sad.


Sal, I ran across a '30 Ford 5W coupe with rumble street last week too. The old guy bought it to restore 10-15 years ago, and the car is slowly sinking into his from yard along with a '64 Falcon Sprint hardtop (6 cylinder). He won't sell. The only think is, I offered him money for the 'A' in front of his wife and her eyes and ears both perked up. I'm going to let him think about it before going back next month and talk to him again :D.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

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sals54
05-10-2008, 10:03 PM
Tom,
You ole' hounddog. That is about the best strategery you could possibly have used. You know dang well and good that she already has that money spent on some thing or another. Good luck on the return trip. I may have to employ a bit of skullduggery of my own. Maybe I could get HER to cut loose with it...........hee hee hee hee hee

sals54
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r1lark
05-10-2008, 10:31 PM
quote:Originally posted by Swifster

1963 GT Hawk - S/N: 63V-1018 - 63V K6 106
V8-2V, 4-Spd, Buckets, Push Button AM
This car was supposed to be the display car at the Atlanta Auto Show
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Based on the very low body number (106), it seems very possible that this car could have been slated for a specific introductory car show.

The Production Order might provide verification.

Paul

barnlark
05-10-2008, 11:20 PM
Tom, I can't express how much I appreciate all of those shots and the time to shoot and upload them for us. Much appreciated. The one with the tree roots/branches is priceless..should be on a TW cover. The 4 speeds & AC units should be worthy of grabbing and it was an education reading what was seen by the others that is slowly disappearing from the scarce parts market. Thanks again.

avantilover
05-11-2008, 12:23 AM
Is it possible for a group of you to make him an offer for all the studes so you can salvage what can be saved for future use? Seems a shame to let stuff rot if it can be salvaged.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Secretary Studebaker Car Club of SA (as of 3/19/08)
Lockleys South Australia

Johnnywiffer
05-11-2008, 07:00 AM
Looking at the condition of each of these cars, it's hard to think that at some time in the distant past, each was someone's pride and joy. Someone probably paid money down and payments for at least 3 years.

Someone washed and waxed and maintained each one of these cars. They drove it on trips and to work and showed it off to their friends. Maybe even did things in the back seat that can't be talked of on a family forum.

Then, eventually, traded it off like an old appliance. And, as we see, it eventually wound up there, in the graveyard of old dreams.

I'm sure that none of the original owners even had an inkling of what was to come. For the most part, were probably happy with their decisions and, if it's possible with an appliance, maybe even "loved" what is now a rusted, twisted shadow of its former self.

How did they end up there? Accident? Just worn out? Someone just got tired of it and said, "Come and get it"?

I wonder how many stories each could tell if they could talk, with their rusted throats. Frankly, I'd be afraid to go out there at night. I'd be afraid I'd HEAR them...chattering away, like a bunch of old sick people.

"Hey, a little paint and a few turns of a wrench and I'd be back on the road."

"Sure, and I could fly if I had wings!"

"Hey, will you guys stop complaining. At least you don't have wind whistling thru the rust-out on your fenders!"

"No, and you don't have a hood that looks like a Savador Dali sculpture, either!"

"YOU and your Salvador Dali hood. At least YOU have a carb! Yesterday, somebody took mine. AND my heater core! AND my water pump. And I heard them say if it wasn't so dark, they'd have taken my whole AC system! Will it never END? First thing you know, I'll be just a hulk, like that one over there with the tree growing up thru it."

"Ha! You're worried about your AC! Today, those vultures took my whole drivetrain. 'J ever have your HEART ripped out?"

"I did!"

"I did!"

"I did!"

"Hey, I still got my tranny!"

"Yeah--hangin' on by one bolt! Don't worry, they'll get that soon enough!"

"I think I hear the gate opening. Here come the vultures again. Good luck, guys!:

And on and on. As you can imagine, I never go into a junk, er--recycling yard after dark. Too many spirits in there. Too many "lives" that might clash with mine. Too many sad stories that might make me sad, too.

Nope, I know what's good for me. I get MY parts in the morning. When those guys are too tired and talked out to get me.

Think of that, next time YOU are in a junk yard.

John

Johnnywiffer
05-11-2008, 07:00 AM
Looking at the condition of each of these cars, it's hard to think that at some time in the distant past, each was someone's pride and joy. Someone probably paid money down and payments for at least 3 years.

Someone washed and waxed and maintained each one of these cars. They drove it on trips and to work and showed it off to their friends. Maybe even did things in the back seat that can't be talked of on a family forum.

Then, eventually, traded it off like an old appliance. And, as we see, it eventually wound up there, in the graveyard of old dreams.

I'm sure that none of the original owners even had an inkling of what was to come. For the most part, were probably happy with their decisions and, if it's possible with an appliance, maybe even "loved" what is now a rusted, twisted shadow of its former self.

How did they end up there? Accident? Just worn out? Someone just got tired of it and said, "Come and get it"?

I wonder how many stories each could tell if they could talk, with their rusted throats. Frankly, I'd be afraid to go out there at night. I'd be afraid I'd HEAR them...chattering away, like a bunch of old sick people.

"Hey, a little paint and a few turns of a wrench and I'd be back on the road."

"Sure, and I could fly if I had wings!"

"Hey, will you guys stop complaining. At least you don't have wind whistling thru the rust-out on your fenders!"

"No, and you don't have a hood that looks like a Savador Dali sculpture, either!"

"YOU and your Salvador Dali hood. At least YOU have a carb! Yesterday, somebody took mine. AND my heater core! AND my water pump. And I heard them say if it wasn't so dark, they'd have taken my whole AC system! Will it never END? First thing you know, I'll be just a hulk, like that one over there with the tree growing up thru it."

"Ha! You're worried about your AC! Today, those vultures took my whole drivetrain. 'J ever have your HEART ripped out?"

"I did!"

"I did!"

"I did!"

"Hey, I still got my tranny!"

"Yeah--hangin' on by one bolt! Don't worry, they'll get that soon enough!"

"I think I hear the gate opening. Here come the vultures again. Good luck, guys!:

And on and on. As you can imagine, I never go into a junk, er--recycling yard after dark. Too many spirits in there. Too many "lives" that might clash with mine. Too many sad stories that might make me sad, too.

Nope, I know what's good for me. I get MY parts in the morning. When those guys are too tired and talked out to get me.

Think of that, next time YOU are in a junk yard.

John

N8N
05-11-2008, 08:18 AM
tom,

if you get the 4-speed make sure you get the bracket for the cross shaft that is bolted to the trans side cover!

nate

--
55 Commander Starlight
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Swifster
05-11-2008, 08:22 AM
John, funny you say that. While walking around, there are things you imagine with some of those old cars. I could almost see that Hawk sitting at a show with people milling around checking out the car (and stealing the shifter ball [}:)]) at a new car show (easier for me to picture that car at the Detroit Auto Show though [:o)]).

The Challenger and the first '63 Lark had decals from Carr's Import Autos there in Plant City, FL (another dealership to track down). They appear to have always been local cars that roamed the local roads, driving past this yard many times before it became their home. And when a piece of weathersrip is displaced, some of the glossy original color can still be found.

Even some of the other cars like the '58 Chrysler Windsor 4-door with the pale yellow paint and the red roof and accents seem to beg for another ride. As mentioned, I've always loved late '50's Mopars, but this poor car had the double wammy of being as close to a base car as you can get and of having skin cancer to the point of it being terminal on a base car (if this had been a 300D, it would have been fixed).

You also see some cars with their last license plate, like the '64 Daytona with a 1975 license plate. Did it suffer a collision? Break an axle? Did the recliner mechanism fail with a promise to fix it 'later'? You do feel for the 'soul' of the car.

Fortunately, unlike us humans, we can stock pile a mechanical corpse and scavange it's parts and bones to keep others on the road. While many of those cars will see a crusher at some point, hopefully many others will live because of it it. No I just need find out which scalples I'll need for the surgery...


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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

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bams50
05-11-2008, 09:18 AM
A lot of truth to what you said, John. I frequently look at these old Studes I drag in and think about their beginning. What do people do with a new car? They bring it home, and all the family comes running out and oohs and aahs, opens the doors, jumps on the seats, tries all the knobs, opens hood and trunk, while the proud new owner expounds the virtues of their shiny new car, and why it's THE car to have[8D] Then to see them used up and neglected is a little sad to me on some level...

The Wagonaire I dragged home from York is a great example. I bought it thinking about it's fate if I didn't. Most that saw it dismissed it, firmly saying "parts car". It was only after I got it home that I found out the PO was SO relieved to see it bought... it had belonged to her deceased father, who had loved it for years. They had tons of memories in it, including her father taught both her and her sister to drive in it. She still had love for it, but no way to help it; and was very grateful to see it go to capable hands. I have a fantasy of bringing it back to it's former glory and putting her back behind the wheel once more...

I know I'm a bit of a softie for these things; and I'm realistic about not being able to save 'em all. But I think you're right- they do have spirits. Some have resigned themselves to their fate, and others are hoping that right person will come along and see they still have a load of potential and give them one more chance, before the uncaring majority sends them off to the glue factory

Just yesterday I heard that 61 Lark 4dr. rollover in my garage sniping at the stripped down Daytona next to it:

"Big r2 engine, think you're such a big shot, OH, look at me, I'm a 2dr HT, you GOTTA save me! BIG DEAL. I'VE got a 2-barrel, and I'm perfectly happy with REGULAR gas- who do you think's gonna get more use, hotshot? You think all them kids are gonna enjoy cramming into your backseat? NOT. You're gonna be too FANCY to enjoy much. So go lay your little rubber patch and snarl for the adolescents- you'll be cooling your heels while I'M taking everybody to dinner!"

The things that go on on the IoMT...........



Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that happiness is a thing called Larking!"

barnlark
05-11-2008, 11:28 AM
Ok, you guys are scaring me... hearing voices! I haven't heard voices since the early seventies, but I know what you mean. They look like caged cute puppies to a SDC member waiting for a good owner who will understand.
Bams, that story about the wagonaire is great. You MUST take her for a ride when you get it done. I'd pay to see that smile. You should be commended for taking that on. Did her story convince you to buy that car? I remember that car stuck in the snow in your driveway like it was giving it's last bad luck demon a kick off.
My oldest daughter remembers everything about our car she trained in. I used to take her out before she even had her "temps." Five speed hill situations and finally a smooth turn..

Swifster
05-11-2008, 05:51 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

Just yesterday I heard that 61 Lark 4dr. rollover in my garage sniping at the stripped down Daytona next to it:

"Big r2 engine, think you're such a big shot, OH, look at me, I'm a 2dr HT, you GOTTA save me! BIG DEAL. I'VE got a 2-barrel, and I'm perfectly happy with REGULAR gas- who do you think's gonna get more use, hotshot? You think all them kids are gonna enjoy cramming into your backseat? NOT. You're gonna be too FANCY to enjoy much. So go lay your little rubber patch and snarl for the adolescents- you'll be cooling your heels while I'M taking everybody to dinner!"

Bob, does the '61 Lark know what a guillotine is? Or a frontal lobotomy? [:o)]:D

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

[b]1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

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Guido
05-11-2008, 07:02 PM
I am surprised by how badly the main body panels are rusted. The only time we see hoods like that is at the beach or if a car has been sitting in a grove of cedar trees.

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/63/663/9/36/86/2567936860097493054TXiheL_th.jpgGuido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful" and real Studebaker horsepower lives

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Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

bams50
05-11-2008, 07:15 PM
quote:Originally posted by Swifster

Bob, does the '61 Lark know what a guillotine is? Or a frontal lobotomy? [B)][:o)]:D




No, but it may find out!!



Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that happiness is a thing called Larking!"

bams50
05-11-2008, 07:22 PM
quote:Originally posted by barnlark

Did her story convince you to buy that car?

From that post:

It was only after I got it home that I found out the PO was SO relieved to see it bought...

How could I NOT save it after that?[^]



Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that happiness is a thing called Larking!"

Swifster
05-11-2008, 08:09 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

I am surprised by how badly the main body panels are rusted. The only time we see hoods like that is at the beach or if a car has been sitting in a grove of cedar trees.


The humidity down here is bad from May to October. Moisture gets everywhere. Many of those cars were in the center of the state and spent minimal time along the coasts.The salvage yard owner bought the first two cars new and they've been in the Lakeland area forever. And the panels are as bad on them as any other. Of course sinking into the ground won't do a lot for the floors and other body panels.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

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Steve T
05-11-2008, 08:58 PM
Thanks for those great shots. So many of the responses, too, convince me yet again (as if I needed it) that I've landed in precisely the right corner of the old-car fraternity! I get gladder by the day that I decided to be the next custodian of a humble Lark VI Deluxe two-door: the longer Betty lasts now, the less likely she'll ever look like the Larks et al in that Florida yard. I admit to the same kind of sentimentality about cars evinced by several other posters here; well I did name my Lark "Betty" rather than just "my Lark", didn't I. I hope she's pleased enough with my guardianship so far...:)

The pix, with those spare, technical identifications instead of captions, remind me more than a little of the famous "Sleeping Beauties" photo-essays by German photographer Herbert Hesselmann, as published in Automobile Quarterly back in the 80s. Those photos were taken at M. Michel Dovaz' estate in France and showed the hulks of some two dozen eye-popping cars (Bugattis, Cords, Lincoln V12s and such) stuffed into barns or moss-covered among the trees. Several of these Stude shots could indeed be offbeat TW covers...or the basis of a feature inside the mag. The tale behind that 62 Lark VI flathead must be an interesting one for starters! And if that Hawk really was a showcar, surely she should be rescued in toto...

S.

showbizkid
05-12-2008, 02:31 AM
I'm a bit late to the party here, but if the pot-metal trunk trim on that first 63 sedan is as good as it looks, you should surely rescue it too!


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Clark in San Diego
'63 F2/Lark Standard
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www.studebakersandiego.com

Steve T
05-12-2008, 09:47 AM
Looking at the 64 Challenger hulk again--the one that appears to have been hit by an LGB or maybe a meteor!--I think it's a two-door rather than a four-door: rear fender, though bent double, looks far too long ahead of the wheel arch to be from a four-door, and what can be seen of the aft roof appears to show an attached window frame.

Matters little of course...ain't nobody rescuing that one. Poor old thing.

This stuff should definitely find its way into TW...

S.

Michidan
05-12-2008, 12:35 PM
Many thinks for the pictures Tom! (and the serial num.)
Biggs has all the 52 hardtop parts pretty much called out. I would have said the drip rail trim, but it looks damaged on both sides already. The divider pieces between the rear windows are stainless and most definitely saveable, but you need to crawl up in there to get the screws out.
The front fender top emblems are kind of rare.
The commander emblem on the trunk is the later style and no doubt can be removed by hand. Just yank it out of the rust.
Amazingly, the rear fender guards don't look that bad, and these are easy to get off.
Don't bother getting the stainless windshield reveal out, everyone knows they can never be re-installed again. (ha!)
Grill wise - believe it or not it's probably better than mine. Not that it matters. Good luck negotiating for some parts, but its hard to consider any of this stuff worth much. Those are some rusty old cars!

Dan
52 hardtop
www.studebakerhardtop.com

Swifster
05-12-2008, 08:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by Steve T

Looking at the 64 Challenger hulk again--the one that appears to have been hit by an LGB or maybe a meteor!--I think it's a two-door rather than a four-door: rear fender, though bent double, looks far too long ahead of the wheel arch to be from a four-door, and what can be seen of the aft roof appears to show an attached window frame.

Matters little of course...ain't nobody rescuing that one. Poor old thing.

Steve, You're probably right after looking at the pictures again. Needless to say, I didn't dig around that car too much. I thought that portion of the quarter panel was a rear door.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $2125.60)

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bams50
05-13-2008, 05:31 AM
I've said this before, but this is always interesting to me: The cars are built from material that comes out of the Earth, so we over come the Earth- for a while. Sooner or later the cars stop moving, and the planet goes to work reclaiming it's materials; they settle into the ground and the soil and moisture takes them apart, trees and weeds slowly but surely grow and reach across them, and all things work together to promote Mother Nature's number one tool- rust. Even the critters that move in help break everything down...

This is a force that none of us can stop; all we can do is work on beating it back and slowing it down. It's too late to stick up for these; but there's others to fight for...

Keep up the fight!;)



Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"Some people live for the rules, I live for exceptions"- 311

"With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that happiness is a thing called Larking!"