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skyway
10-22-2006, 02:50 PM
Anybody know anything about the light colored 1951? Commander shown in the old footage that's part of the Anheuser-Busch/Ernhardt commercial that just ran during today's race?

mbstude
10-22-2006, 03:04 PM
I didn't see it, but was it this car?

The driver of this car was Frank Gise. Car # 38. '51 Commander Starlight coupe. All info from studebakerracing.com

http://www.studebakerracing.com/fg3L.jpg

http://www.studebakerracing.com/fg2L.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/ (always under construction)

mbstude
10-22-2006, 03:04 PM
I didn't see it, but was it this car?

The driver of this car was Frank Gise. Car # 38. '51 Commander Starlight coupe. All info from studebakerracing.com

http://www.studebakerracing.com/fg3L.jpg

http://www.studebakerracing.com/fg2L.jpg

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/ (always under construction)

studeclunker
10-22-2006, 03:06 PM
Probably (and this is a guess) one of Andy Granitelli's early cars. He raced for Studebaker you know. By the way, I'm told that STP (Granitelli's company) stands for 'Studebaker Tested Product'.

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

studeclunker
10-22-2006, 03:06 PM
Probably (and this is a guess) one of Andy Granitelli's early cars. He raced for Studebaker you know. By the way, I'm told that STP (Granitelli's company) stands for 'Studebaker Tested Product'.

Lotsa Larks!
K.I.S.S. Keep It Simple Studebaker!
Ron Smith

mbstude
10-22-2006, 03:19 PM
I know that Granatelli raced many a Stude at Bonneville in the '60's with several R series Studes. I never knew he did anything with Stude before that. [?] 1961 is when he sold Paxton Products to Studebaker. STP stands for Scientifically Treated Petroleum, and was first developed ib 1954. :D (Google is your friend)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/ (always under construction)

mbstude
10-22-2006, 03:19 PM
I know that Granatelli raced many a Stude at Bonneville in the '60's with several R series Studes. I never knew he did anything with Stude before that. [?] 1961 is when he sold Paxton Products to Studebaker. STP stands for Scientifically Treated Petroleum, and was first developed ib 1954. :D (Google is your friend)

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/020avatar_river.jpg

http://mbstudebaker.blogspot.com/ (always under construction)

lstude
10-22-2006, 05:46 PM
I have a couple of photos of Studebaker stock car racers, but I don't know if they were in the film. I also have one of a 40 Champion stock car. That must have been a fast one!:D And yes, STP was discussed in TW a few years ago and it was determined that it means Scientifically Treated Petroleum.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/51StudebakeratDaytona500-1.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/51Studebakerstockcar23-1.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/40Championstockcar.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

lstude
10-22-2006, 05:46 PM
I have a couple of photos of Studebaker stock car racers, but I don't know if they were in the film. I also have one of a 40 Champion stock car. That must have been a fast one!:D And yes, STP was discussed in TW a few years ago and it was determined that it means Scientifically Treated Petroleum.
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/51StudebakeratDaytona500-1.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/51Studebakerstockcar23-1.jpg
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/40Championstockcar.jpg

Leonard Shepherd, editor, The Commanding Leader, Central Virginia Chapter, http://centralvirginiachapter.org/
http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/Mein64Daytonasm.jpghttp://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l288/lstude/52inyardsm-1.jpg

CHAMP
10-22-2006, 06:19 PM
Oh! For the good old days when they raced real cars!:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

CHAMP
10-22-2006, 06:19 PM
Oh! For the good old days when they raced real cars!:)

GARY H 2DR.SEDAN 48 STUDEBAKER CHAMPION NORTHEAST MD.

stude freak
10-22-2006, 07:32 PM
Wow.#43.Richard Petty's #.And he was STP major adveriser and spokeman for over 20 years.But i never seen him in a Stude.I wonder why not?


David Baggett Mantachie,Ms.

stude freak
10-22-2006, 07:32 PM
Wow.#43.Richard Petty's #.And he was STP major adveriser and spokeman for over 20 years.But i never seen him in a Stude.I wonder why not?


David Baggett Mantachie,Ms.

Dwain G.
10-22-2006, 07:47 PM
I didn't see it either, but Frank Mundy comes to mind. He was a member of the board that founded NASCAR. An old racer that had a little success with the new V8 Studebaker. He was a guest speaker at South Bend in 1997.
Ah yes, the pictures! #23 is definitely Frank Mundy. His only two 1st place finishes in a new 1951 Studebaker were Columbia Speedway, Columbia, SC, June 16th, and Lakeview Speedway, Mobile, AL, November 25th. These were 100 mile or longer races.

http://home.comcast.net/~jdwain/53C.jpg
Dwain G.

Dwain G.
10-22-2006, 07:47 PM
I didn't see it either, but Frank Mundy comes to mind. He was a member of the board that founded NASCAR. An old racer that had a little success with the new V8 Studebaker. He was a guest speaker at South Bend in 1997.
Ah yes, the pictures! #23 is definitely Frank Mundy. His only two 1st place finishes in a new 1951 Studebaker were Columbia Speedway, Columbia, SC, June 16th, and Lakeview Speedway, Mobile, AL, November 25th. These were 100 mile or longer races.

http://home.comcast.net/~jdwain/53C.jpg
Dwain G.

StudeDave57
10-23-2006, 12:16 AM
I don't believe any of these '50/'51s are the cars in question~ the car I keep seeing appears to be a four door...
But you only have a split second to see it, so look fast!!!


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

StudeDave57
10-23-2006, 12:16 AM
I don't believe any of these '50/'51s are the cars in question~ the car I keep seeing appears to be a four door...
But you only have a split second to see it, so look fast!!!


StudeDave [8D]
V/P San Diego County SDC
San Diego, Ca

'54 Commander 4dr 'Ruby'
'57 Parkview (it's a 2dr wagon...) 'Betsy'
'57 Commander 2dr 'Baby'
'57 Champion 2dr 'Jewel'
'58 Packard sedan 'Cleo'
'65 Cruiser 'Sweet Pea'

olasar
10-23-2006, 08:28 AM
I read an article once, don't know where, the Andy G's open wheel raceing team took an Avanti to one of the NASCAR races in '62 and came in 4th. They even lead the race afew times but Andy's pit crew wasn't not very fast. They aways lost several postions. Has anyone else seen this article?

Alan

olasar
10-23-2006, 08:28 AM
I read an article once, don't know where, the Andy G's open wheel raceing team took an Avanti to one of the NASCAR races in '62 and came in 4th. They even lead the race afew times but Andy's pit crew wasn't not very fast. They aways lost several postions. Has anyone else seen this article?

Alan

skyway
10-23-2006, 12:17 PM
You do have to look quickly, and yes, I think it's a four door too.
Really caught my eye tho! Hopefully the commercal will be re-run in future races.

skyway
10-23-2006, 12:17 PM
You do have to look quickly, and yes, I think it's a four door too.
Really caught my eye tho! Hopefully the commercal will be re-run in future races.

starlightchamp
10-23-2006, 05:00 PM
Hotwheels63r2
I also had trouble postin photos but preservered. Try this:

Go to <www.flickr.com>, enroll and post up your photos to the flickr site.
Right click on the photo you want to add to this forum and select"new page"
for the photo. It should appear in the upper left corner of an otherwise blank page.
Highlight the URL, ALL of it, eg. http://www.xxxxxx and SAVE.
Now when you submit a new topic, click on the yellow ikon in the Format bar
and get: . Now click between the center brackets and see a blinking
cursor there. Now PASTE and the saved photo will be added to your post.
Click on Preview to verify its there.
Good Luck
...Dick

1950 Champion Starlight
1963 Hawk GT
Santa Barbara
CA

starlightchamp
10-23-2006, 05:00 PM
Hotwheels63r2
I also had trouble postin photos but preservered. Try this:

Go to <www.flickr.com>, enroll and post up your photos to the flickr site.
Right click on the photo you want to add to this forum and select"new page"
for the photo. It should appear in the upper left corner of an otherwise blank page.
Highlight the URL, ALL of it, eg. http://www.xxxxxx and SAVE.
Now when you submit a new topic, click on the yellow ikon in the Format bar
and get: . Now click between the center brackets and see a blinking
cursor there. Now PASTE and the saved photo will be added to your post.
Click on Preview to verify its there.
Good Luck
...Dick

1950 Champion Starlight
1963 Hawk GT
Santa Barbara
CA

JRoberts
10-23-2006, 06:01 PM
Bob Coolridge might be of some help. He is a Studebaker racing guru. Try his website http://www.studebakerracing.com/ He has lots of pictures of early Studebakers in stock car races.
Joe Roberts

JRoberts
10-23-2006, 06:01 PM
Bob Coolridge might be of some help. He is a Studebaker racing guru. Try his website http://www.studebakerracing.com/ He has lots of pictures of early Studebakers in stock car races.
Joe Roberts

wayne
10-23-2006, 07:04 PM
I saw it too and think it was a 4 door but you only saw it for a second.

wayne
10-23-2006, 07:04 PM
I saw it too and think it was a 4 door but you only saw it for a second.