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Mark57
05-05-2008, 10:53 PM
You know, I do not usually engage in picking apart vehicles for sale at auction, but I cannot fathom how a person could think this Truck (while nice:)) is worth ~$18 to $20K[?]:(

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/1953-STUDEBAKER-2R-PICKUP-TRUCK-RESTORED-V8-ENGINE_W0QQitemZ150244024494QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item150244024494&

I note that many items are incorrect for the period - door mirror, wheel covers, tailights, shifter knob, etc. (and the truck is advertised as "restored"). In addition it is missing things like a knob for the climatizer, spare tire mount, etc. Am I that out of it on prices? [:0]

<h5>[b]Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
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JDP
05-05-2008, 11:11 PM
More like 14K in my opinion. It's not a stock example, but the the 289 is a nice modification.

JDP/Maryland

studeclunker
05-05-2008, 11:45 PM
Looks like a beautiful truck. Still, I have to weigh in that it's a bit overpriced. Yet what can you expect from a car dealer? They always price them high. Nevertheless, I'd want to see the vehicle on a lift and have it professionally inspected for the price he's asking.

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bams50
05-06-2008, 05:33 AM
I have a real hard time picking on prices on nice vehicles anymore. Every time I think I have an idea of what something's worth, I get fooled in one direction or the other[:I] Good thing I never buy anything nice:D

I do think this truck is a little over-priced, but who really knows? All it takes is just that one right person to hit the BIN, then the price would be just right! Based on the NADA values the seller has listed, the price is in line.

As always, it should have started with a low opening bid, then the seller could see what the current REAL market value is. But if he did that, and it ended really low, that would make it harder to deal with any serious buyers.

I guess it's not an exact science, eh?





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2R5
05-06-2008, 05:49 AM
Weither you like what the owner did to the truck or not try doing one for this money . I just finished a R series truck and if I sold it I would want around the same kind of money out of it .

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wpsrea
05-06-2008, 06:05 AM
I have watched this seller for some time now with various cars and trucks for sale. All have appeared to over priced and they keep being relisted for the same "Buy it now". I think JDP is closer on this one.

62champ
05-06-2008, 06:53 AM
Do not think it is too particular to want the grill and front bumper painted correctly for 20K [:0]

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Jerry Forrester
05-06-2008, 07:04 AM
I love that truck.
The only thing I see that it needs is a hydralic system under the bed to slide it back 2" and then tilt. I like hauling rocks, gravel and dirt. I just don't like to shovel it.
One of these days I'll have me an R series with a dump bed. Maybe not this year, but someday....................maybe.

Jerry Forrester
Douglasville, Georgia
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mbstude
05-06-2008, 08:59 AM
I don't care for the white grille or those wheelcovers on it. But other than that, I like it. Especially the 289 OD part. [^]

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA
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Scott
05-06-2008, 09:38 AM
It's not the first time I've seen Studebaker trucks offered for sale at that price or higher. What happened to supply and demand? This is what we have always heard pontificated every time we complain about values. Well, gentlemen (and ladies), that means that if this truck sells for what he's asking, then this kind of truck can claim to be worth that much. I don't see the big deal, although I would have thought that was on the high side. He might just get it.

4961Studebaker
05-06-2008, 09:55 AM
Not even a correct rear bumper

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buddymander
05-06-2008, 10:38 AM
I don't see that price as out of line at all. As far as the incorrectness of the truck, I'm not so sure how much that hurts the value. The biggest flaw I see is the bottom of the bed. It's been beat down from many years of hauling heavy items. And now it would be a tough fix to remove the bed and cut out the bent sections and weld in new and paint. But in fairness, if the bed was straight and everything was correct, aren't we looking at a 30K truck?

JRoberts
05-06-2008, 11:24 AM
quote:Originally posted by buddymander

I don't see that price as out of line at all. As far as the incorrectness of the truck, I'm not so sure how much that hurts the value. The biggest flaw I see is the bottom of the bed. It's been beat down from many years of hauling heavy items. And now it would be a tough fix to remove the bed and cut out the bent sections and weld in new and paint. But in fairness, if the bed was straight and everything was correct, aren't we looking at a 30K truck?


I wouldn't think so. I think that if the bed was straight and everything was correct we would be looking at what the seller is now asking. It bothers me when someone advertises a vehicle as "restored" when it is not. That said, I think the biggest thing against this truck is the color of the grill.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

Guido
05-06-2008, 11:42 AM
quote:Originally posted by Jerry Forrester
One of these days I'll have me an R series with a dump bed. Maybe not this year, but someday....................maybe. Jerry,

This could be your lucky year. I have a '52 2R17A that I can put you in today. It has a 2 speed rear as well as a 13' dump bed.

If you want to spend a lot more, my '61 E-28 can return to Georgia.

Gary

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studeclunker
05-06-2008, 12:20 PM
Why Guido! Was that shameless self-promotion of your trucks? Are we trying to drum up more money for the carriage and wagon collection[?] Not that I'd discourage you...;)

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Lotsa Larks!
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Mark57
05-06-2008, 02:24 PM
Gary's '61 E-28 is a nice unit... Now, if it had a 5 spd. O/D transmission... [:p][}:)]

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
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arkiejazz
05-06-2008, 05:23 PM
[:o)]Nice truck. But trucks do NOT appreciate having to wear white wall tires. Just aint fittin' Also, to have spent so much money and still not to have straightened the front frame arms so that the front bumper sits level is an amazing oversight. And no attempt at all to get the waves out of the bed floor? Incorrect tail lights, etc.......still a nice looking truck except for the whitewall tires.[:o)]

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Mark57
05-06-2008, 09:05 PM
quote:Originally posted by arkiejazz

[:o)]Nice truck. But trucks do NOT appreciate having to wear white wall tires. Just aint fittin' Also, to have spent so much money and still not to have straightened the front frame arms so that the front bumper sits level is an amazing oversight. And no attempt at all to get the waves out of the bed floor? Incorrect tail lights, etc.......still a nice looking truck except for the whitewall tires.[:o)]

steve blake


Steve - You have made my point... for $18 to 20K I would expect something very "Pistine"! [^];)

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar Deluxe
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PsychoBob
05-07-2008, 03:27 AM
Not worth it. Not on a longshot. As was stated earlier, the grille and front bumper are not painted correctly. The rear bumper is wrong. The hood doesn't line up right with the fenders OR the cowl. Mine lines up better, and it was hit by a tree, the front clip replaced, and the right edge of the hood fixed by grafting in the edge of a '52 Buick hood. The wheel covers are wrong. The mirrors are wrong. No matter whether the engine is considered an upgrade, it's not original. By the way, nice $25 MrGasketCo air cleaner... real original looking. The Ford 9 inch rear doesn't help at all. The tail lights are identical to the ones on my '49. Only problem with that is that I bought them at an auto parts store off the shelves for $5 apiece... not exactly original equipment. It has obviously been converted to 12 volts as well, as indicated by the $20 Auto-Zone over the counter aftermarket gauges screwed to the underside of the dash because the ORIGINAL 6 volt gauges will no longer work. Which leads me to the original gauge cluster. Where the heck are the speedo numbers? Seems to me that they have gone the way of all other old R-series trucks and the paint flaked off. Considering that the way to fix this, which is to remove the glass and paint inside where the numbers are etched, then trim the excess off may be painstaking but is still easy, this guy didn't really put a whole lot of effort into this truck. I also don't like the exposed wiring along the steering column, especially the bright red hot wire with the inline fuse just hanging out there for all to see. How hard would it have been to hide all that SOMEHOW?? This truck reminds me of something that was thrown together and given a nice coat of paint to bring a few bucks. And nice job masking off the VIN and code plates... I almost didn't notice the paint on them. Where I come from, "show quality paint" doesn't include that, or the bumps and pits around the plates in the pictures, it means you can put mirrors under your car so judges can see how nice and smooth and shiny your undercarriage is. I'll bet that P-2479 paint doesn't turn out to be light blue either. I'd be willing to bet that next year around this time, whoever buys this will start seeing rust spots returning and Bondo separating from what remains of the original metal. Someone earlier stated that they had done an R series truck, and would ask this kind of money. Well, the difference here is that you most likely did your truck RIGHT. In which case, the price you would ask would be right on the money. My '49 is nowhere near as nice as this truck, but I don't go around calling it "restored". even though the entire driveline is original and the truck isn't modified, except for the cheap auto parts store taillights. It's REBUILT. I KNOW what my truck is worth, and don't pretend that it's anything more than what it is. This joker obviously didn't do this truck right. This guy should not even consider calling this a restoration. This truck was modified. It's not a hot rod, but it's still modified. This truck is a driver at BEST. Take it to cruises, have fun, get a few nods. Nice truck, but not correct, not restored, and definitely NOT worth what he is asking.

DISCLAIMER: I'm not trying to be a jerk here. If this guy had been asking NORMAL money for this truck, or just posting pics saying "look what I did with my R-series", I'd say it was nice. Because it is nice. But the thing that got me on a roll was the fact that he is trying to sell it and advertising it as restored when it isn't. I just don't think that is fair to any of the potential buyers.