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bondobilly
05-03-2008, 06:43 PM
Somebody posted they purchased a wide white tire from Coker. I think I have 2.25 or some such thing.I want as close to three inch. Any suggestions on which Coker Radial will work on my Hawk. My Diamond Backs have developed problems. They have developed bumps, and the white walls are all stained.

JDP
05-03-2008, 06:49 PM
http://store.coker.com/prod/p20575r15-bfg-2-38-whitewall.html

JDP/Maryland

blackhawk61
05-03-2008, 06:58 PM
That is the ones I have!
http://i245.photobucket.com/albums/gg72/blackhawk61/Feb2008scan.jpg

1961 Hawk 4BC,4-SPEED,TT
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q55/chevpartsman/61HawkChevypartsmanreduce.jpg
Ken Byrd
Lewisville,NC

Dan White
05-03-2008, 07:21 PM
Did you call Diamond Back and tell them the problem. They seem to be pretty decent folks to work with.

Dan White
64 R1 GT
64 R2 GT

61hawk
05-03-2008, 08:20 PM
quote:Originally posted by 61hawk




How old are your tires? My Diamondbacks are about 8 years old and the whitewall is still like new. The only thing I use to clean them is Wesley's Bleach White.

Lee

JDP
05-03-2008, 08:26 PM
Bleach is a big no-no, this from the Coker website.

"Cleaning your whitewall tires with the incorrect cleaners can permanently damage the color and quality of the tire.

Stay away from cleaners that contain bleach, silicon, or harsh chemicals. These cleaners may make the tire shine white for a time, but eventually they will cause deep yellowing and cracking that can not be reversed. We have a specially formulated cleaner we call Wide White. It contains citrus oil, one of the best natural cleaning compounds.

The most important thing is to keep the tires clean from day one. Just like a white shirt, if dirt and grim is allowed to sit on the tire, the white wall may never return to it's original bright white."

JDP/Maryland

61hawk
05-03-2008, 09:00 PM
That's what Diamondback's literature says too... but I've still used it periodically and it hasn't affected the tires.

Lee

bondobilly
05-03-2008, 09:07 PM
I have been going back and forth with them for about 5 years. When they shipped the tires they bound them together in pairs with a heavy nylon strap. The strap made an indentation on all four sidewalls. Everytime I call they say that the indents will go away. Well 12,000 miles plus they are still there.

When I told them the tires won't clean to white they tell me to use 400 to 600 grit sandpaper and not to use any tire cleaner. Today we did a car show where 40% of all the cars came in on trailers. All pre-war Packards and showroom condition Studebakers owned by a local car dealer. Speedster, 53 Commander, 53 Caribbian etc. My tires looked like hell and the high speed driving was miserable.

I have followed everyone of Diamond Back's sugestions and my WW's are stained with brown, pink, and yellow areas.

Froze our rear ends off.......... today felt more like November.

I know somebody bought a Coker tire for their car with a 3 inch wide white, but cannot find the post.

mbstude
05-03-2008, 09:12 PM
Bill, you aren't thinking of this picture, are you?

http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/Sky%20Hawk/214-10.jpg

I know you emailed me and asked what size the WW was. However, those tires are really old. Goodyear Champion Deluxes, or something like that. :) They don't look bad on a '56 Hawk though.

Matthew Burnette
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar-9.jpg

StudeMichael
05-04-2008, 09:32 PM
I had a problem with Coker also. I had a brand new white wall I bought from them for my 1958 Golden Hawk get a big bubble in it on the sidewall. They blamed on the installer who uses a touchless bead machine and they said there was no way they bruised the lip of the bead. The guy I spoke with at Coker was a real ass. He wanted me to mail the tire back and said that if it was not defective on their end he would mail it back to me and charge me shipping. I asked if they would just sell me a replacement for half price and he said no. This was my third set of tires I bought from them and I told him so. So I bought another tire from them to replace it and vowed to never do business with them again. I was not going to pay to ship tires back and forth only to be told it was not their fault.

1957 Packard Clipper
1958 Golden Hawk
1963 Daytona Convertible
1963 R2 Daytona
1963 R2 GT Hawk
1963 R1 Wagonaire
1963 R4 Avanti
1964 Champ
1966 Cruiser

avantilover
05-04-2008, 11:15 PM
I'm led to believe that Coker tyres are made in China or Mexico using the original manufacturers name but are not.

So if you think you're getting BF Goodrich or Goodyear etc, think again.
Check out this link for details -
http://www.classic-usa-cars.com/tire_business.html

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Secretary Studebaker Car Club of SA (as of 3/19/08)
Lockleys South Australia

Green53
05-05-2008, 12:13 AM
Coker gave me a sample bottle of Wide White at the SEMA Show. It works quite well. I use a standard scuff pad with it. It seems the guys in Arizona are having better luck with Diamond Back than Coker. Coker's seem to turn yellow.
Denny L

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/Daytona64/53Stude2015.jpg

S2DSteve
05-05-2008, 01:32 AM
I have Diamondback Classics and they still look very good after 6 years and 29,000 miles. The only thing I've ever used is tire and wheel cleaner. Diamondback recommended "409", and specifically advised me not to use Wesley's, SOS or anything with bleach. The thing to keep in mind about Diamondbacks is that they are vulcanized to tires supplied by various manufacturers, so you might get different results depending on which tire was used as the foundation.

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Steve Hudson
The Dalles, Oregon
1937 Dictator Flatback sedan (for sale)
1949 "GMOBaker" 1-T Dually (workhorse)
1953 Commander Convertible (show & go)
1953 Champion Starliner (custom/rod project)
1954 Champion Coupe (daily driver)
1960 Hawk (future project?)

DEEPNHOCK
05-05-2008, 07:27 AM
I am so glad I'm too lazy for whitewalls.
Jeff[8D]

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JRoberts
05-05-2008, 08:00 AM
quote:Originally posted by StudeMichael

I had a problem with Coker also. I had a brand new white wall I bought from them for my 1958 Golden Hawk get a big bubble in it on the sidewall. They blamed on the installer who uses a touchless bead machine and they said there was no way they bruised the lip of the bead. The guy I spoke with at Coker was a real ass. He wanted me to mail the tire back and said that if it was not defective on their end he would mail it back to me and charge me shipping. I asked if they would just sell me a replacement for half price and he said no. This was my third set of tires I bought from them and I told him so. So I bought another tire from them to replace it and vowed to never do business with them again. I was not going to pay to ship tires back and forth only to be told it was not their fault.

1957 Packard Clipper
1958 Golden Hawk
1963 Daytona Convertible
1963 R2 Daytona
1963 R2 GT Hawk
1963 R1 Wagonaire
1963 R4 Avanti
1964 Champ
1966 Cruiser


A friend of mine had the same problem with Coker and their tires on his '55 sedan. Has refused to buy Coker tires since them because of it.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

JRoberts
05-05-2008, 08:00 AM
quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

I am so glad I'm too lazy for whitewalls.
Jeff[8D]

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Amen!

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

MikeW
05-05-2008, 10:55 AM
I have Diamond Back WW's on my Packard Hawk. When I first put them on I had one immediately develop a bubble. I called and within two days I had a replacement tire. They sent me a return sticker for UPS. I called and they picked the tire up. Since then I have had no problems with the Diamond Backs. I have been running them for four years now with no further problems. They were extremely easy to deal with.


Mike
www.packardhawk.com

S2DSteve
05-05-2008, 12:36 PM
Wide whites add a unique touch of class, but they are a special burdon. Add real wires and you triple the hassles, then add black paint (like Blackhawk 61) and you pretty much know keeping your car looking sharp is going to be a full time job.

http://i165.photobucket.com/albums/u57/S2DSteve/Family12.jpg
Steve Hudson
The Dalles, Oregon
1937 Dictator Flatback sedan (for sale)
1949 "GMOBaker" 1-T Dually (workhorse)
1953 Commander Convertible (show & go)
1953 Champion Starliner (custom/rod project)
1954 Champion Coupe (daily driver)
1960 Hawk (future project?)