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JDP
10-21-2006, 01:52 PM
OK, time to embarrass myself with the bone headed move of the year. I got the interior in my R2 Hawk and decided it was time for a test drive to the gas station to check out the new engine. I got half way up the hill and thought I started to run out of gas and limped home. I added a few gallons and saw no improvement. I thought maybe the carb was crapped up with some rust from the tank and pulled the carb only to find it cleans as a whistle. I rigged up a fuel pressure gage and only had 2 PSI now and then, sometime nothing.

Has to be the fuel pump, right ? Take the pump off, it looks great too, but I'd better swap it. While swapping the fittings, I found the problem. I'd grabbed a PCV out of my brass drawer by mistake. <g>

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John Kirchhoff
10-21-2006, 03:49 PM
No need to be embarrassed, I've made more than my share of screw-ups also. The measure of a man is being able to tell others about his mistake rather than hide it. I figure if it keeps others from making the same mistake, you've done your part. You may have experienced a little embarrassment, but you've gained a lot of respect. Keep it up!

John Kirchhoff
10-21-2006, 03:49 PM
No need to be embarrassed, I've made more than my share of screw-ups also. The measure of a man is being able to tell others about his mistake rather than hide it. I figure if it keeps others from making the same mistake, you've done your part. You may have experienced a little embarrassment, but you've gained a lot of respect. Keep it up!

studeclunker
10-21-2006, 04:28 PM
Perhaps I'm a bonehead myself, but why would a PVC out of your brass drawer be a problem?


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studeclunker
10-21-2006, 04:28 PM
Perhaps I'm a bonehead myself, but why would a PVC out of your brass drawer be a problem?


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showbizkid
10-21-2006, 04:59 PM
I think JP is saying he put a PCV valve in the fuel line instead of a fuel filter.


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showbizkid
10-21-2006, 04:59 PM
I think JP is saying he put a PCV valve in the fuel line instead of a fuel filter.


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JDP
10-21-2006, 05:04 PM
It was a R1/R2 PCV that screws in the back of the carb, and I screwed it in the inlet on the fuel pump.

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JDP
10-21-2006, 05:04 PM
It was a R1/R2 PCV that screws in the back of the carb, and I screwed it in the inlet on the fuel pump.

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Roscomacaw
10-21-2006, 05:43 PM
Now THATS a hoot!:D Thanks JP

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Roscomacaw
10-21-2006, 05:43 PM
Now THATS a hoot!:D Thanks JP

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JDP
10-21-2006, 06:06 PM
It look just like a hose fitting if you don't see the little check ball in the end.

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JDP
10-21-2006, 06:06 PM
It look just like a hose fitting if you don't see the little check ball in the end.

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Karl
10-22-2006, 12:31 AM
As John Said no need to be embarrassed. We all goof from time to time. At least you shared it with us. Thanks
Like I just Did.[:I][:I]

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Karl
10-22-2006, 12:31 AM
As John Said no need to be embarrassed. We all goof from time to time. At least you shared it with us. Thanks
Like I just Did.[:I][:I]

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Karl
10-22-2006, 12:32 AM
As John Said no need to be embarrassed.[:I] We all goof from time to time. At least you shared it with us. Thanks;)

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Karl
10-22-2006, 12:32 AM
As John Said no need to be embarrassed.[:I] We all goof from time to time. At least you shared it with us. Thanks;)

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hank63
10-22-2006, 08:22 AM
Anybody NOT making mistakes isn't doing anything.
/H

hank63
10-22-2006, 08:22 AM
Anybody NOT making mistakes isn't doing anything.
/H

JDP
10-22-2006, 08:26 AM
I was outdone by a guy on the news group that was replacing a cracked hesd on his V8 with a junk yard part and put the cracked one back on.:)

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63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
10-22-2006, 08:26 AM
I was outdone by a guy on the news group that was replacing a cracked hesd on his V8 with a junk yard part and put the cracked one back on.:)

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Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

Guido
10-22-2006, 08:18 PM
In the early '80's I bought a F**d F-150 4x4 truck where the engine was in pieces. It seems the PO had sucked water down the carb. Now I don't mind putting together an engine I tore down, but it is a bit tougher when someone else did it and you don't know the sequence of parts. All the valve seals were as hard as rocks, I ended up rebuilding the heads and when I went to put one back on the motor realized all the new valve seals were still in the bed of the truck. I also reversed one or two of the rods, it bound up so tight with the heads and pan off it would barely turn over with the battery. Puts the heads back on and had one gasket backwards and oil running out of the back of the engine. Had to put the alternator on 3 times to get the brackets and spacers right. Ran pretty good for a 360 once all the work was done (and redone).

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

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Guido
10-22-2006, 08:18 PM
In the early '80's I bought a F**d F-150 4x4 truck where the engine was in pieces. It seems the PO had sucked water down the carb. Now I don't mind putting together an engine I tore down, but it is a bit tougher when someone else did it and you don't know the sequence of parts. All the valve seals were as hard as rocks, I ended up rebuilding the heads and when I went to put one back on the motor realized all the new valve seals were still in the bed of the truck. I also reversed one or two of the rods, it bound up so tight with the heads and pan off it would barely turn over with the battery. Puts the heads back on and had one gasket backwards and oil running out of the back of the engine. Had to put the alternator on 3 times to get the brackets and spacers right. Ran pretty good for a 360 once all the work was done (and redone).

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.