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fjodi
10-20-2006, 11:15 AM
Dear List,
I would like to know whether you can tell me which company produced the body of the studebaker avanti? Another question is what are the differences concerning the design of the studebaker commander 1953 and 1955?

Thank you very much for your endeavours,

JDP
10-20-2006, 12:05 PM
I just replied to your e-mail, but here it is again:

Molded *Fiberglass* Company of *Ashtabula*, Ohio made the Avanti fiberglass bodies.


53 commander

http://stude.com/sold/53g.jpg

55 commander

http://stude.com/sold/55.jpg

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64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
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55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
10-20-2006, 12:05 PM
I just replied to your e-mail, but here it is again:

Molded *Fiberglass* Company of *Ashtabula*, Ohio made the Avanti fiberglass bodies.


53 commander

http://stude.com/sold/53g.jpg

55 commander

http://stude.com/sold/55.jpg

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Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

Dick Steinkamp
10-20-2006, 12:46 PM
To add to what JP said...

"Commander" in these years only identified it as a V8 car. There could be a "Commander" of most every body style and every trim level.

A '53 Commander was a 4H. A '55 Commander was a 16G8.

John has pictured a '53 Commander Regal Starliner (4H-K5), and a '55 Commander Regal (or State) Coupe (16G8-C5)

Since "Commander" only refered primarely to the engine (but also to the transmission, suspension, brakes, etc.), the biggest difference between a '53 Commander and a '55 Commander was that the '53 had a 232 cubic inch V8 and a '55 Commander had a 221 or 259 cubic inch V8.

The most obvious visual difference between the 1953 and 1955 cars was the front end treatment as John's pictures illustrate.



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
10-20-2006, 12:46 PM
To add to what JP said...

"Commander" in these years only identified it as a V8 car. There could be a "Commander" of most every body style and every trim level.

A '53 Commander was a 4H. A '55 Commander was a 16G8.

John has pictured a '53 Commander Regal Starliner (4H-K5), and a '55 Commander Regal (or State) Coupe (16G8-C5)

Since "Commander" only refered primarely to the engine (but also to the transmission, suspension, brakes, etc.), the biggest difference between a '53 Commander and a '55 Commander was that the '53 had a 232 cubic inch V8 and a '55 Commander had a 221 or 259 cubic inch V8.

The most obvious visual difference between the 1953 and 1955 cars was the front end treatment as John's pictures illustrate.



http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

JDP
10-20-2006, 02:01 PM
It is noiw that you mention it, big differance with those little grill teeth.:)

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64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
10-20-2006, 02:01 PM
It is noiw that you mention it, big differance with those little grill teeth.:)

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Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

Roscomacaw
10-20-2006, 06:42 PM
That was that gorgeous 54 Champion that I bought outta Turning Wheels for $THIRTY-FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS!!!!! Man, I couldn't BELIEVE how nice that thing was when the truck delivered it to my driveway!
It went to some tourist stop in Minnesota if I remember right. Bought just a bit more on ebay.[}:)]

BTW, the wife REALLY wanted me to keep that one. Even our neighbors would stop to comment on it. It was just about flawless.[:p]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
10-20-2006, 06:42 PM
That was that gorgeous 54 Champion that I bought outta Turning Wheels for $THIRTY-FIVE HUNDRED DOLLARS!!!!! Man, I couldn't BELIEVE how nice that thing was when the truck delivered it to my driveway!
It went to some tourist stop in Minnesota if I remember right. Bought just a bit more on ebay.[}:)]

BTW, the wife REALLY wanted me to keep that one. Even our neighbors would stop to comment on it. It was just about flawless.[:p]

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle!!

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

JDP
10-20-2006, 06:46 PM
As I recall, we did make a bit on it, but after all, you did wash it.:)

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Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

JDP
10-20-2006, 06:46 PM
As I recall, we did make a bit on it, but after all, you did wash it.:)

http://stude.com/sig.jpg
Studebaker On The Net
http://stude.com
Studebaker News Group
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.autos.studebaker
Arnold Md.
64 Daytona HT
63 R2 4 speed GT Hawk
63 Avanti R1/AC
63 Lark 2 dr.
62 Lark 2 door
60 Lark convert
60 Hawk
59 3E Truck
56 truck
55 Starlight
53 Starlight
52 Starliner
51 Commander

Guido
10-20-2006, 09:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp a '55 Commander had a 221 or 259 cubic inch V8.
Just to beat Gary to the punch, the early '55 V-8's were 224 CID.

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
10-20-2006, 09:36 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp a '55 Commander had a 221 or 259 cubic inch V8.
Just to beat Gary to the punch, the early '55 V-8's were 224 CID.

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/53/453/1/21/36/2964121360097493054pVJTFL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/57/757/2/88/4/2023288040097493054SEKowB_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/18/19/8/37/21/2050837210097493054IYBJJL_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/559/1/43/57/2876143570097493054jKVhDw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/59/459/2/23/86/2067223860097493054YoeGMx_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/5/18/33/2537518330097493054OgEKcN_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R16A grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures".

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Dick Steinkamp
10-20-2006, 09:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

Just to beat Gary to the punch, the early '55 V-8's were 224 CID.



Whoops [B)]. A slip of the keyboard.

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
10-20-2006, 09:55 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

Just to beat Gary to the punch, the early '55 V-8's were 224 CID.



Whoops [B)]. A slip of the keyboard.

http://thenobot.org/images/s2d/s2d_01.jpg

Alan
10-20-2006, 11:28 PM
221's were Fords but I won't get into that.

Alan
10-20-2006, 11:28 PM
221's were Fords but I won't get into that.

sbca96
10-21-2006, 05:01 PM
Body:
http://www.theavanti.com/Fiberglass.html

Company:
http://www.theavanti.com/MFGAd.html

MFG or Molded Fiber Glass.

Tom

sbca96
10-21-2006, 05:01 PM
Body:
http://www.theavanti.com/Fiberglass.html

Company:
http://www.theavanti.com/MFGAd.html

MFG or Molded Fiber Glass.

Tom

studegary
10-22-2006, 06:50 PM
Besides the grille teeth, '53 and '54 C/K bodies used different front bumper guards. I couldn't see the grille teeth, but I did notice the '54 bumperettes on the car that John pictured.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)

studegary
10-22-2006, 06:50 PM
Besides the grille teeth, '53 and '54 C/K bodies used different front bumper guards. I couldn't see the grille teeth, but I did notice the '54 bumperettes on the car that John pictured.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

1959 DeLuxe pickup (restomod)