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Original50
08-07-2006, 12:13 PM
I will need to get the trunk handles re-chromed, and I am unable to figure out how to get the lock cylinder out of the handle. Under the handle is a small hole that is about 3/4 inch from the entry point for the key, that looks like that maybe a pin might be housed, but if so, I can't see the pin. In the area where the lock nut groves are is a small hole where there is a pin, but I can't fighre out if this pin comes out that will allow me to remove the lock cylinder and ofcourse the rod that connects to the trunk latch apparatus. Or am I into something that I should give to a locksmith and see if he scratches his head and hiney. There's gotta be a way of getting this thing apart so that I can get it re-chromed by Paul's Chrome Plating. Anybody got any hints?

~ Don ~

Don Dodson

Roscomacaw
08-07-2006, 12:49 PM
Assuming you have the key - insert it and turn the lock one quarter turn, either way. Then, use the end of an opened paper clip in that hole you mentioned. When inserted, it should contact a spring-loaded plunger. Holding that applied with one hand, extract the key and tumbler with the other hand!:D

Miscreant at large.

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

Original50
08-07-2006, 08:04 PM
I don't have a key of any sort for the car. No ignition key, no glove box key, no door key, and no trunk key. I guess it's time to see a lock smith and watch him scratch the head and hiney, unless there is something else I can do. Thanks Mr. Biggs.

~ Don ~

Don Dodson

rockne10
08-07-2006, 08:23 PM
You can remove the door lock from inside the door shell by removing the C-clip that holds it against the outer sheet metal. The 50 probably uses a Hurd blank. Take that to a locksmith and he should be able to make a key that will also fit the ignition. Conversely, you can take out the ignition switch and have a key made that should fit the door lock.

The trunk lock should use the same key as the glovebox, so, if you take the lock from the glovebox to a locksmith, he should be able to make a key for the trunk, and vice-versa.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
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previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

Roscomacaw
08-07-2006, 08:24 PM
Well Don, they made it like that so's you couldn't get in unless you had a key. If there'd been some "secret release" manuver, car thieves would have known about it in short order and locks woulda been useless.

Yeah, a locksmith's gonna be your best bet. I'll bet they cqan pick that thing in short order. BUT - it may take them a bit to find a suitable blank to work to the tumbler. They come up on ebay from time to time. Key blanks, that is.;)

rockne's right about the glove box lock being the same as the truck lock! Assuming they've neither one of them's ever been changed, that might be the way to go.:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

rockne10
08-07-2006, 08:27 PM
Studebaker International has blanks for both the Hurd and Yale keys but if the locksmith has them I'm sure they would be less costly.

Brad Johnson
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
33 Rockne 10
51 Commander Starlight
53 Commander Starlight
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g233/rockne10/51x2.jpg
previously: 63 Cruiser, 62 Regal VI, 60 VI convertible, 50 LandCruiser

Original50
08-08-2006, 07:22 AM
Brad, You and Mr. Biggs are the greatest! Thanks for the hints. I was thinking overnight about seeing if I could use a key for lock that I could get at, so that the locksmith could go into the lock and make what I needed. The glove box is easy to get at, so I will get the locksmith to make several glove box keys and then see if I can get the lock off'n the door to make the ignition keys. Just hoping that whoever had the car before I got her didn't change the locks for some unknown reason. I got the car from Thornton, Colorado and that person got the car from Larimie, Wyoming back in 1963. With 32,000 miles on her everything will probably OK since it wasn't driven much.

~ Don ~

Don Dodson

Roscomacaw
08-08-2006, 05:53 PM
Locksmith's have done pretty well for me over the years. However, I recently had a Stude ignition lock that defeated the best locksmiths in town.
No biggie! I sent them to SDC's premier locksmith in Missouri. Geez - stumped HIM too! But he finally DID figure away around picking it and made it useable again (I didn't have a key for it to start with.:()

A few years ago, I had them change a truck door lock to match the existing one. Stude trucks came with a door lock only on the passenger's side for years. That was the industry standard. I wanted to ADD a lock to the driver's door for convenience, so I had to have one tumbler reworked to match the Pass. door and ignition.:D

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1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe
1957 President 2-dr
1955 President State
1951 Champion Biz cpe
1963 Daytona project FS

Walt Zander
08-08-2006, 07:43 PM
Locks and cylinders-
After the drive home in my '49 Starlight with the original aluminum Studebaker embossed keys, they were placed in the ashtray box. A week later with my Grandson behind the wheel doing his driving bit (not worried as starter is under clutch and keys secure in the box) well the keys turn out to be missing. Communication with this almost 3 year old provided not a clue as to the whereabouts. Removed both glove box lock and door cylinder assembly, not a large task. My locksmith had a set made in less than 3 days and for under a twenty dallor bill.:)

A Paul Harvery --rest of the story. 3 months later Grandma found the originals in the toy box that we have for the 12 grandkids. Pleased that I now have the originals instead of the jingleing generic brand, you bet. :D

'49 Champion Starlight Coupe
1936 Miller Replica/ Stude driveline
Fond du Lac,Wisconsin

SRohde
07-05-2007, 10:41 AM
Hi,

I just purchased a 1951 Champion in good shape! It came with 2 keys: one fit the ignition (and doors), and one for the glovebox and trunk (presumably). The latter key fit the glovebox fine but not the trunk lock (whose tumbler doesn't feel right). So I took out the rear seat and got the trunk open. But now I'd like to get the lock cylinder out?? Perhaps I should drill it as I've seen new lock cylinders online at Studebaker Int.?

Thanks for your help!

Steve

glen
07-05-2007, 11:07 AM
Well I have you all beat...the 64 Daytona has:
a key for the ignition, a key for the drivers door, a key for
the passenger door and finally the trunk key....what is the
best way to handle this nightmare...other than make another
shopping trip to Stude Intl and buy one of their lock/key
sets??? Is getting the old ones out any different than the
above...Find a good Locksmith to pull the old and stick in
the new???

FYI: This is now posted under a new thread: "More Daytona surprises"

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1964 Daytona
glen Brose
Tumbleweed Flats, AZ

SRohde
07-07-2007, 07:37 AM
Glen,
Thanks much!
Guess it's "key city" for you!
Worst case is I'll drill old lock out (??) & replace it.
Steve