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monomaniac
03-11-2008, 11:49 AM
I thought this would be a good place to get some feedback from the average reader. As editors of TW, we select photos for the covers based on quality and size, not necessarily concerning ourselves with originality. Deciding whether the photos be used for front, back, or inside is pretty much based on size and composition. Personally I prefer the inside photos because they have no overprinting, no text added. We don't assign a preference normally to front position or back or inside.

For a back cover we need a photo with some space at the bottom (for the overprinting) similar to the front but a little more space.

We prefer to bleed photos to the edge and use borders or banners only when necessary -- like the proportions of the photo not as required or the resolution of the photo not quite high enough.

Getting around to my question and soliciting your opinion -- Does the average reader assign a "grade" of sorts to the photo's location? In other words, is it more prestigious to be on the front cover than inside? Front than back?

I don't look at it that way but I wonder about the reader -- just curious.

Art

65cruiser
03-11-2008, 12:02 PM
Personally, I think the front cover would be pretty prestigous. So, yes, I guess I would assign a "grade" to the covers. That's just my gut feeling.

Mark Anderson
Member SDC and FMCA
Keeper of the Studebaker Cruiser Registry
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

My next Studebaker is in the future, but now getting my hair messed up in a Sebring ragtop!
Almost as fun as a Studebaker!

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/sebring.jpg

65cruiser
03-11-2008, 12:02 PM
Personally, I think the front cover would be pretty prestigous. So, yes, I guess I would assign a "grade" to the covers. That's just my gut feeling.

Mark Anderson
Member SDC and FMCA
Keeper of the Studebaker Cruiser Registry
http://home.alltel.net/anderm

My next Studebaker is in the future, but now getting my hair messed up in a Sebring ragtop!
Almost as fun as a Studebaker!

http://home.alltel.net/anderm/images/sebring.jpg

Anne F. Goodman
03-11-2008, 12:03 PM
Hey I would love to be on the Front cover but I would settle for just being on a Cover. Well I should say My Studebaker would love being on a cover.

Mabel 1949 Champion
1957 Silverhawk
1955 Champion 4Dr.Regal
Gus 1958 Transtar
1955 President State
Fresno,Ca
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/Mabel.jpg?t=1165475035http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/xmasannecopy.jpghttp://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/GusMater.jpghttp://s122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/th_DSCN17232008-01-01.jpg

Anne F. Goodman
03-11-2008, 12:03 PM
Hey I would love to be on the Front cover but I would settle for just being on a Cover. Well I should say My Studebaker would love being on a cover.

Mabel 1949 Champion
1957 Silverhawk
1955 Champion 4Dr.Regal
Gus 1958 Transtar
1955 President State
Fresno,Ca
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/Mabel.jpg?t=1165475035http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/xmasannecopy.jpghttp://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/GusMater.jpghttp://s122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/th_DSCN17232008-01-01.jpg

Avantidon
03-11-2008, 12:10 PM
Art, IMHO, just being chosen my you and your staff to appear on a cover regardless of the placement is an honor. I was totally surprised when I received the 11/06 issue of TW from Chester B. in an envelope instead of in the mail. It took me a while to figue out wy and when I did, I had to be picked up off of the floor. I never expected to have a vehicle to grace a TW cover, much less the back cover. To me it doesn't matter where they are. It was the surprise and the honor to be chosen that was to me overwhelming. Thanks for the honor you bestowed on me. It was not expected. DJ

See you in the future as I write about our past

Avantidon
03-11-2008, 12:10 PM
Art, IMHO, just being chosen my you and your staff to appear on a cover regardless of the placement is an honor. I was totally surprised when I received the 11/06 issue of TW from Chester B. in an envelope instead of in the mail. It took me a while to figue out wy and when I did, I had to be picked up off of the floor. I never expected to have a vehicle to grace a TW cover, much less the back cover. To me it doesn't matter where they are. It was the surprise and the honor to be chosen that was to me overwhelming. Thanks for the honor you bestowed on me. It was not expected. DJ

See you in the future as I write about our past

blackhawk61
03-11-2008, 12:14 PM
Just being on a cover is VERY nice. I am honored !

1961 Hawk 4BC,4-SPEED,TT
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q55/chevpartsman/61HawkChevypartsmanreduce.jpg
Ken Byrd
Lewisville,NC

blackhawk61
03-11-2008, 12:14 PM
Just being on a cover is VERY nice. I am honored !

1961 Hawk 4BC,4-SPEED,TT
http://i133.photobucket.com/albums/q55/chevpartsman/61HawkChevypartsmanreduce.jpg
Ken Byrd
Lewisville,NC

52-fan
03-11-2008, 12:33 PM
I have always thought that the front cover and then back cover were the best places to be. As a reader I like it best when there is a good story to go with the selected photo.

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

52-fan
03-11-2008, 12:33 PM
I have always thought that the front cover and then back cover were the best places to be. As a reader I like it best when there is a good story to go with the selected photo.

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

53k
03-11-2008, 01:06 PM
I would grade them. Best is front cover, next is rear cover, the inside front followed by inside back cover.


[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine
1962 Gravely Model L (Studebaker-Packard serial plate)
1972 Gravely Model 430 (Studebaker name plate, Studebaker Onan engine)

53k
03-11-2008, 01:06 PM
I would grade them. Best is front cover, next is rear cover, the inside front followed by inside back cover.


[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine
1962 Gravely Model L (Studebaker-Packard serial plate)
1972 Gravely Model 430 (Studebaker name plate, Studebaker Onan engine)

m5pickup
03-11-2008, 01:13 PM
Art:
I certainly agree that is an honor to have one's Studebaker grace any of the covers of Turning Wheels.

Perhaps because of newspapers and magazines in general, I would have to say that I place more prestige on the front cover, then the back cover, and then the inside covers. I suspect readers base "favorites" upon the vehicle itself rather than on which cover it appears.

I'm sure I am not the only reader to be so impressed with a cover car that they decide to restore that particular make and model. It was the June 1986 issue with the M5 on the cover that did it for me.

Best regards-
John Stine
'46 M5 Pickup
'63 Lark Sedan

m5pickup
03-11-2008, 01:13 PM
Art:
I certainly agree that is an honor to have one's Studebaker grace any of the covers of Turning Wheels.

Perhaps because of newspapers and magazines in general, I would have to say that I place more prestige on the front cover, then the back cover, and then the inside covers. I suspect readers base "favorites" upon the vehicle itself rather than on which cover it appears.

I'm sure I am not the only reader to be so impressed with a cover car that they decide to restore that particular make and model. It was the June 1986 issue with the M5 on the cover that did it for me.

Best regards-
John Stine
'46 M5 Pickup
'63 Lark Sedan

Michidan
03-11-2008, 01:19 PM
Dr. Hook didn't sing about being on the BACK cover of the Rolling Stone. [8D]

Without a doubt the front cover holds a bit more prestige. Even in our TW where all covers are equal and color.

Dan
52 hardtop
www.studebakerhardtop.com

Michidan
03-11-2008, 01:19 PM
Dr. Hook didn't sing about being on the BACK cover of the Rolling Stone. [8D]

Without a doubt the front cover holds a bit more prestige. Even in our TW where all covers are equal and color.

Dan
52 hardtop
www.studebakerhardtop.com

Chris Pile
03-11-2008, 01:22 PM
In the magazine biz, the covers are always $$$$$$$$.

Chris Pile
StudeFolk Manager
http://tiny.cc/RYqAK

Chris Pile
03-11-2008, 01:22 PM
In the magazine biz, the covers are always $$$$$$$$.

Chris Pile
StudeFolk Manager
http://tiny.cc/RYqAK

monomaniac
03-11-2008, 01:31 PM
Michidan, I like Dr. Hook and if you should get even on to the back cover I can arrange to send 5 copies to your Mother.

monomaniac
03-11-2008, 01:31 PM
Michidan, I like Dr. Hook and if you should get even on to the back cover I can arrange to send 5 copies to your Mother.

monomaniac
03-11-2008, 01:58 PM
Interesting feedback; I'm glad I asked the question. Naturally if we have a photo that's suitable and it illustrates the feature or other article, then that one will be used.

But I will have to write an editorial explaining that I wouldn't want anyone to think that their photo on the inside front (for example) meant that we considered it third best.

The criteria we use for photo placement is varied. First is always size, resolution and composition. Some excellent photos end up on the back cover strictly because they were not large enough. The largest and best photos often grace the inside covers.

Thanks for your comments.

monomaniac
03-11-2008, 01:58 PM
Interesting feedback; I'm glad I asked the question. Naturally if we have a photo that's suitable and it illustrates the feature or other article, then that one will be used.

But I will have to write an editorial explaining that I wouldn't want anyone to think that their photo on the inside front (for example) meant that we considered it third best.

The criteria we use for photo placement is varied. First is always size, resolution and composition. Some excellent photos end up on the back cover strictly because they were not large enough. The largest and best photos often grace the inside covers.

Thanks for your comments.

monomaniac
03-11-2008, 02:01 PM
M5pickup said: "I'm sure I am not the only reader to be so impressed with a cover car that they decide to restore that particular make and model. It was the June 1986 issue with the M5 on the cover that did it for me."

That's amazing! I would not have thought of that.

monomaniac
03-11-2008, 02:01 PM
M5pickup said: "I'm sure I am not the only reader to be so impressed with a cover car that they decide to restore that particular make and model. It was the June 1986 issue with the M5 on the cover that did it for me."

That's amazing! I would not have thought of that.

studegary
03-11-2008, 02:53 PM
I think that magazine covers are normally ranked; front, back, inside front, inside back.

I like all Studebakers, stock and modified. When a cover picture shows a vehicle that is basically stock, I think that it is good to point out deviations from stock in the covers write-up section. I believe that many use the cover pictures of mostly stock vehicles as restoration guides. This may be partly a carry-over from the Fox era. Of course, a vehicle that is obviously a highly modified vehicle would need no explanation.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
03-11-2008, 02:53 PM
I think that magazine covers are normally ranked; front, back, inside front, inside back.

I like all Studebakers, stock and modified. When a cover picture shows a vehicle that is basically stock, I think that it is good to point out deviations from stock in the covers write-up section. I believe that many use the cover pictures of mostly stock vehicles as restoration guides. This may be partly a carry-over from the Fox era. Of course, a vehicle that is obviously a highly modified vehicle would need no explanation.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

Studedude1961
03-11-2008, 03:04 PM
Generally in the publications business front cover is the most prestigious and desirable because of the masthead. This is followed by back cover, inside front cover, and inside back cover. Turning Wheels just keeps getting better and better. We are so fortunate to have such dedicated individuals producing it month after month.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

Studedude1961
03-11-2008, 03:04 PM
Generally in the publications business front cover is the most prestigious and desirable because of the masthead. This is followed by back cover, inside front cover, and inside back cover. Turning Wheels just keeps getting better and better. We are so fortunate to have such dedicated individuals producing it month after month.

Studedude1961
--1963 Cruiser

52hawk
03-11-2008, 03:15 PM
Front cover is #1 -especially when you've gone to full size pic,without the colored border all around the edge. I prefer the inside covers for framing,though.

Oglesby,Il
61Hawk "Studebaker? It must be hard to find parts for those!"

52hawk
03-11-2008, 03:15 PM
Front cover is #1 -especially when you've gone to full size pic,without the colored border all around the edge. I prefer the inside covers for framing,though.

Oglesby,Il
61Hawk "Studebaker? It must be hard to find parts for those!"

DilloCrafter
03-11-2008, 03:28 PM
I agree with the front, back, inside front, inside back as to ratings of importance in the readers' eyes.

If my truck ever gets submitted (has to be "finished" first, of course), and selected for a cover, you'll probably want it on the inside, since it will appear mostly stock, but with various tasteful modifications. I wouldn't want someone to try and restore theirs to original based on the fact they saw my non-original one on a front or back cover and thought it was factory.

http://simps.us/studebaker/misc/images/Avacar-hcsdc.gif[/img=left]
Paul Simpson
"DilloCrafter"

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

DilloCrafter
03-11-2008, 03:28 PM
I agree with the front, back, inside front, inside back as to ratings of importance in the readers' eyes.

If my truck ever gets submitted (has to be "finished" first, of course), and selected for a cover, you'll probably want it on the inside, since it will appear mostly stock, but with various tasteful modifications. I wouldn't want someone to try and restore theirs to original based on the fact they saw my non-original one on a front or back cover and thought it was factory.

http://simps.us/studebaker/misc/images/Avacar-hcsdc.gif[/img=left]
Paul Simpson
"DilloCrafter"

1955 1/2 Ton Pickup
[i]The Red-Headed Amazon
Deep in the heart of Texas

BobGlasscock
03-11-2008, 04:10 PM
Since I will never have mine on a cover, my opinion is extremely unbiased. :) Front, then back, and the cure for Mono's question of 3rd and 4th on the insides of the covers. Here it is, are you sitting down? On the inside of the front cover, a pic of the inside of the front cover car. Same on the inside of the back cover. 2 views for the price of one cover. And no favoritism.

'50 Champion, 1 family owner

BobGlasscock
03-11-2008, 04:10 PM
Since I will never have mine on a cover, my opinion is extremely unbiased. :) Front, then back, and the cure for Mono's question of 3rd and 4th on the insides of the covers. Here it is, are you sitting down? On the inside of the front cover, a pic of the inside of the front cover car. Same on the inside of the back cover. 2 views for the price of one cover. And no favoritism.

'50 Champion, 1 family owner

tbredehoft
03-11-2008, 04:22 PM
I decided upon the color of my 53 coupe based upon the cover showing the Ivory convertible with the red interior, sometime in 2000 I think.

I'd say that the front cover is No. 1, back cover No. 2 (proud to have had No. 2 spot) inside are both No. 3.

I see the advantage to putting the larger pix on the inside, there's nothing to cover up them.

[img=left]http://www.alink.com/personal/tbredehoft/Bothcars4.jpg[/img=left]
Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'55 President State Sedan
(Under Construction) 134 hrs.
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

tbredehoft
03-11-2008, 04:22 PM
I decided upon the color of my 53 coupe based upon the cover showing the Ivory convertible with the red interior, sometime in 2000 I think.

I'd say that the front cover is No. 1, back cover No. 2 (proud to have had No. 2 spot) inside are both No. 3.

I see the advantage to putting the larger pix on the inside, there's nothing to cover up them.

[img=left]http://www.alink.com/personal/tbredehoft/Bothcars4.jpg[/img=left]
Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'55 President State Sedan
(Under Construction) 134 hrs.
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

Guido
03-11-2008, 05:11 PM
Having had one of my buggies grace the outside back cover, I must say it is an honor to have been selected. I concur with the other that the front cover is probably the most prestigious.

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/62/562/2/21/69/2353221690097493054hwathP_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/60/460/3/91/1/2433391010097493054nAMBKh_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/2/49/65/2603249650097493054XvpTUI_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/64/564/6/89/77/2752689770097493054skXzAT_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/5/22/8/2609522080097493054ZNRJeA_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/69/169/4/66/56/2729466560097493054oBZsXT_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

See pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
03-11-2008, 05:11 PM
Having had one of my buggies grace the outside back cover, I must say it is an honor to have been selected. I concur with the other that the front cover is probably the most prestigious.

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/62/562/2/21/69/2353221690097493054hwathP_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/60/460/3/91/1/2433391010097493054nAMBKh_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/2/49/65/2603249650097493054XvpTUI_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/64/564/6/89/77/2752689770097493054skXzAT_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/5/22/8/2609522080097493054ZNRJeA_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/69/169/4/66/56/2729466560097493054oBZsXT_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

See pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

gordr
03-11-2008, 05:15 PM
I'd agree with the rankings already posted, and add, that if one of my cars ever made a cover shot, I wouldn't feel the least bit slighted if it were only the inside back.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

gordr
03-11-2008, 05:15 PM
I'd agree with the rankings already posted, and add, that if one of my cars ever made a cover shot, I wouldn't feel the least bit slighted if it were only the inside back.

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

8E45E
03-11-2008, 05:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by Michidan

Dr. Hook didn't sing about being on the BACK cover of the Rolling Stone. [8D]



Unless it belongs to a member over in the Promised Land who owns a Haifa-assembled, Stude.[:0] Then it would be the front!

Craig

8E45E
03-11-2008, 05:30 PM
quote:Originally posted by Michidan

Dr. Hook didn't sing about being on the BACK cover of the Rolling Stone. [8D]



Unless it belongs to a member over in the Promised Land who owns a Haifa-assembled, Stude.[:0] Then it would be the front!

Craig

PlainBrownR2
03-11-2008, 05:33 PM
As a reader, since the magazine comes through the mail, it usually gets read whether or not the cover is good. I usually don't assign grades to the photographs, unless something really looks out of sorts. Now if the magazine were on a rack, a decent front cover would draw my attention a little more as it shows there might be something interesting on the inside.....


1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]

PlainBrownR2
03-11-2008, 05:33 PM
As a reader, since the magazine comes through the mail, it usually gets read whether or not the cover is good. I usually don't assign grades to the photographs, unless something really looks out of sorts. Now if the magazine were on a rack, a decent front cover would draw my attention a little more as it shows there might be something interesting on the inside.....


1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]

Gary1953
03-11-2008, 05:36 PM
Art,
Back in 1981 or so Turning Wheels had a photo contest and the winners were used for cover shots. My entry was a gray 1938 President that was honorable mention. However the disappointment of not placing in the contest was replaced with great pride when the photo was used as the front cover of Turning Wheels. (Feb '82 I beleieve) When you have your car on the front cover or you take the picture for the front cover it really looks great framed as opposed to the inside cover. The inside covers have no wording or logos saying the photo was used as a cover shot.
I would be very proud to have my car or a picture I took of someone esles car used on any cover. I would say the front first, back second, inside third.
Art could the inside shots have something to say they are cover shots so the shot would stand out when framed? Maybe a small Turning Wheels logo and month and date?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/gsandes50/100_2151.jpg
Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.

Gary1953
03-11-2008, 05:36 PM
Art,
Back in 1981 or so Turning Wheels had a photo contest and the winners were used for cover shots. My entry was a gray 1938 President that was honorable mention. However the disappointment of not placing in the contest was replaced with great pride when the photo was used as the front cover of Turning Wheels. (Feb '82 I beleieve) When you have your car on the front cover or you take the picture for the front cover it really looks great framed as opposed to the inside cover. The inside covers have no wording or logos saying the photo was used as a cover shot.
I would be very proud to have my car or a picture I took of someone esles car used on any cover. I would say the front first, back second, inside third.
Art could the inside shots have something to say they are cover shots so the shot would stand out when framed? Maybe a small Turning Wheels logo and month and date?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/gsandes50/100_2151.jpg
Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.

sals54
03-11-2008, 06:13 PM
The cover photo IS the most prestigious. How could it NOT be? Every magazine on the rack has people cutting each other's throats for the cover. I believe the cover shot should also be the premier story in the issue as well. It can be confusing to see the cover graced with a fabulous looking Golden Hawk only to find the only mention of the car is in one sentence on page 12. When you see the cover, it should be an enticement of the content, drawing one in to the pages to look for the rest of the story.
In other words, fewer pictures of Fred and Mable in their shorts, eating chicken and more about their cars.
Sorry, it's been a pet peeve of mine for about 25 years. Which is why I hardly ever read TW anymore.
OK, now here come the knives....

sals54
03-11-2008, 06:13 PM
The cover photo IS the most prestigious. How could it NOT be? Every magazine on the rack has people cutting each other's throats for the cover. I believe the cover shot should also be the premier story in the issue as well. It can be confusing to see the cover graced with a fabulous looking Golden Hawk only to find the only mention of the car is in one sentence on page 12. When you see the cover, it should be an enticement of the content, drawing one in to the pages to look for the rest of the story.
In other words, fewer pictures of Fred and Mable in their shorts, eating chicken and more about their cars.
Sorry, it's been a pet peeve of mine for about 25 years. Which is why I hardly ever read TW anymore.
OK, now here come the knives....

purplelark
03-11-2008, 06:13 PM
Agree with those ranking front, back, inside front .....and, still notable ... inside back.

purplelark
03-11-2008, 06:13 PM
Agree with those ranking front, back, inside front .....and, still notable ... inside back.

oltrknut
03-11-2008, 06:44 PM
I get great deal of pleasure just making print, always pumps the chest up when one makes the cover , but the satisfaction is nearly as grand at any spot in the magazine. Allen

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/oltrknut/PANA1149.jpg

oltrknut
03-11-2008, 06:44 PM
I get great deal of pleasure just making print, always pumps the chest up when one makes the cover , but the satisfaction is nearly as grand at any spot in the magazine. Allen

http://i162.photobucket.com/albums/t242/oltrknut/PANA1149.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
03-11-2008, 06:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by sals54
In other words, fewer pictures of Fred and Mable in their shorts, .


I'll beat Guido to this one...

Fred and Mable in shorts is MUCH better than Steinkamp in shorts! [:0]

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
03-11-2008, 06:46 PM
quote:Originally posted by sals54
In other words, fewer pictures of Fred and Mable in their shorts, .


I'll beat Guido to this one...

Fred and Mable in shorts is MUCH better than Steinkamp in shorts! [:0]

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Lark Parker
03-11-2008, 07:09 PM
In some magazines the centerfold picture has drawn the most attention.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/larkparker/Miscellaneous/caryreduced.jpg Lark Parker
If at first you don't succeed -- you will get a lot of advice.

Lark Parker
03-11-2008, 07:09 PM
In some magazines the centerfold picture has drawn the most attention.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/larkparker/Miscellaneous/caryreduced.jpg Lark Parker
If at first you don't succeed -- you will get a lot of advice.

Ricardo
03-11-2008, 07:28 PM
For me, the front cover, as the great Cole Porter said "is the top". Then the rear cover. In my humble opinion, both inside covers are indifferent. Also could be used by high price advertisements and should be the same. Ie. photos in those inside cover location are not valued (for me)

Studebakerchile
http://www.tuerca.cl/studebakerchile/

Ricardo
03-11-2008, 07:28 PM
For me, the front cover, as the great Cole Porter said "is the top". Then the rear cover. In my humble opinion, both inside covers are indifferent. Also could be used by high price advertisements and should be the same. Ie. photos in those inside cover location are not valued (for me)

Studebakerchile
http://www.tuerca.cl/studebakerchile/

BobPalma
03-11-2008, 07:31 PM
:) Since this thread is only soliciting opinions, I guess no one is right or wrong...nor should they be.

My personal preference is: The feature article for a given issue should have a related photo on the front cover. If a given issue contains a Fred Fox feature article, I believe an example of the featured model or series should be on the front cover, preferably a contemporary photo of a restored subject vehicle owned by an SDC member. [^] :DBP

BobPalma
03-11-2008, 07:31 PM
:) Since this thread is only soliciting opinions, I guess no one is right or wrong...nor should they be.

My personal preference is: The feature article for a given issue should have a related photo on the front cover. If a given issue contains a Fred Fox feature article, I believe an example of the featured model or series should be on the front cover, preferably a contemporary photo of a restored subject vehicle owned by an SDC member. [^] :DBP

barnlark
03-11-2008, 07:36 PM
I think you certainly have your answer by now, but what's important is that you honestly never purposely moved someone to the rear inside cover. Like that is bad! For those of us whom have never made it on any page with our car in Turning Wheels, it HAS to be an honor to be anywhere in the magazine. I've had one of my portraits of an owner, his wife and cars accompanied with a story printed in an issue and that felt great years ago. Thanks for even asking, Art. It always looks great no matter which car is where, and it is always my favorite day by the mailbox.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/newshooter44/DSCN0016.jpghttp://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/newshooter44/DSCN0093-1.jpg

barnlark
03-11-2008, 07:36 PM
I think you certainly have your answer by now, but what's important is that you honestly never purposely moved someone to the rear inside cover. Like that is bad! For those of us whom have never made it on any page with our car in Turning Wheels, it HAS to be an honor to be anywhere in the magazine. I've had one of my portraits of an owner, his wife and cars accompanied with a story printed in an issue and that felt great years ago. Thanks for even asking, Art. It always looks great no matter which car is where, and it is always my favorite day by the mailbox.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/newshooter44/DSCN0016.jpghttp://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh48/newshooter44/DSCN0093-1.jpg

studemaker
03-11-2008, 08:06 PM
Well Art, according to the concensus of this group, I ranked last in the February 2008 edition of Turning Wheels covers. Well I must say that they are wrong....I could not have been more honored to have my truck and its story printed. The last thing I was concerned with was what cover the truck was on, just that it would actually be on one of them! Thank You for allowing me to share my truck, and my friend Ed's story with the rest of the Studebaker community, I still feel like number one! And by the way, I already bought ten copies for my mother, brothers, son, daughters, grandkids.......;) http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l11/studemaker/Mergatroid%20TW/Newlan025.jpg

<div align="left">Tim Stevens Big Sky Country, Montana '59 4E7-122 Deluxe '59 4E3-112 Deluxe Scotsman '59 Silver Hawk '57 Parkview Wagon '41 Double Dater Coupe</div id="left"> http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l11/studemaker/Mergatroid/Mergatroid.jpg

studemaker
03-11-2008, 08:06 PM
Well Art, according to the concensus of this group, I ranked last in the February 2008 edition of Turning Wheels covers. Well I must say that they are wrong....I could not have been more honored to have my truck and its story printed. The last thing I was concerned with was what cover the truck was on, just that it would actually be on one of them! Thank You for allowing me to share my truck, and my friend Ed's story with the rest of the Studebaker community, I still feel like number one! And by the way, I already bought ten copies for my mother, brothers, son, daughters, grandkids.......;) http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l11/studemaker/Mergatroid%20TW/Newlan025.jpg

<div align="left">Tim Stevens Big Sky Country, Montana '59 4E7-122 Deluxe '59 4E3-112 Deluxe Scotsman '59 Silver Hawk '57 Parkview Wagon '41 Double Dater Coupe</div id="left"> http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l11/studemaker/Mergatroid/Mergatroid.jpg

Swifster
03-11-2008, 08:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by Lark Parker

In some magazines the centerfold picture has drawn the most attention.


This is what I'm waiting for. I want my car as the centerfold!

On a serious note, I thing the front cover in any magazine is the most prestigous. Just look at the Sports Illustrated cover jinx...[:0][:o)]

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom - Mulberry, FL

[b]1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $1826.83)

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/rollingpi.gif http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/The%20Daytona%20File/Avatar%20Size/01-01-05TheStartingPoint.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/The%20Daytona%20File/Avatar%20Size/07-17-07FrontClipRemoved.jpg

Swifster
03-11-2008, 08:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by Lark Parker

In some magazines the centerfold picture has drawn the most attention.


This is what I'm waiting for. I want my car as the centerfold!

On a serious note, I thing the front cover in any magazine is the most prestigous. Just look at the Sports Illustrated cover jinx...[:0][:o)]

---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Tom - Mulberry, FL

[b]1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $1826.83)

http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/rollingpi.gif http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/The%20Daytona%20File/Avatar%20Size/01-01-05TheStartingPoint.jpg http://i74.photobucket.com/albums/i280/Swifster/The%20Daytona%20File/Avatar%20Size/07-17-07FrontClipRemoved.jpg

monomaniac
03-11-2008, 08:55 PM
I'll have to reiterate -- even though other magazines may have the practice of placing the most prestigious photo on the front, that is not the case with TW. I love large, color photos and it's so much better to be able to produce 4 instead of only 1 each month.

Studemaker, I love that blue truck and it was NOT ranked last in that issue. As an example that issue had 4 cover photos, none of which related to an article in the magazine. The 2 outside cover photos were slightly too small to be stretched from edge to edge. Therefore they HAD to be relegated to front and back where we had the option of adding borders or banners. The 2 inside photos were high resolution and LARGE and so we WANTED to use them inside where no overprinting would mar their appearance.

As Mr. Palma states, it would be appropriate to have the front cover always relate to the feature article inside. If only we received appropriate photos, we could do that, but often that is not the case.

Barnlark, I think you should pay close attention to TW in the months ahead.

Mr. Lester, you have every chance of attaining the goal of being on the cover and you won't need to bang your head on the hood latch to improve that chance.

Gary1953 -- where is that ice storm shot you were working on?

Thanks for all the comments; I learned something today.

Art

monomaniac
03-11-2008, 08:55 PM
I'll have to reiterate -- even though other magazines may have the practice of placing the most prestigious photo on the front, that is not the case with TW. I love large, color photos and it's so much better to be able to produce 4 instead of only 1 each month.

Studemaker, I love that blue truck and it was NOT ranked last in that issue. As an example that issue had 4 cover photos, none of which related to an article in the magazine. The 2 outside cover photos were slightly too small to be stretched from edge to edge. Therefore they HAD to be relegated to front and back where we had the option of adding borders or banners. The 2 inside photos were high resolution and LARGE and so we WANTED to use them inside where no overprinting would mar their appearance.

As Mr. Palma states, it would be appropriate to have the front cover always relate to the feature article inside. If only we received appropriate photos, we could do that, but often that is not the case.

Barnlark, I think you should pay close attention to TW in the months ahead.

Mr. Lester, you have every chance of attaining the goal of being on the cover and you won't need to bang your head on the hood latch to improve that chance.

Gary1953 -- where is that ice storm shot you were working on?

Thanks for all the comments; I learned something today.

Art

Gary1953
03-11-2008, 09:02 PM
Art,
I'm still working on it. Should have something this weekend.
What do you thing about the logo in the corner on the inside picture?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/gsandes50/100_2151.jpg
Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.

Gary1953
03-11-2008, 09:02 PM
Art,
I'm still working on it. Should have something this weekend.
What do you thing about the logo in the corner on the inside picture?

http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/gsandes50/100_2151.jpg
Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.

Mark57
03-11-2008, 09:13 PM
Art, I would say being on the front cover would be the most prestigious followed by the back cover and then the inside front and back covers being 3rd place. All are prestigious, some are more so. ;) :)

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar
3E-6/7-122 </h5>
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/MrGreenJeans1003b.jpg

Mark57
03-11-2008, 09:13 PM
Art, I would say being on the front cover would be the most prestigious followed by the back cover and then the inside front and back covers being 3rd place. All are prestigious, some are more so. ;) :)

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar
3E-6/7-122 </h5>
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/MrGreenJeans1003b.jpg

monomaniac
03-11-2008, 10:34 PM
Gary -- I'm not really in favor of a logo or any overprint on the inside cover photos. I like the photos unspoiled. Otherwise it seems like advertising to me.
I know why you want a logo on the photo but I still prefer the photo without it.

monomaniac
03-11-2008, 10:34 PM
Gary -- I'm not really in favor of a logo or any overprint on the inside cover photos. I like the photos unspoiled. Otherwise it seems like advertising to me.
I know why you want a logo on the photo but I still prefer the photo without it.

Lark Parker
03-12-2008, 07:43 AM
quote:Originally posted by monomaniac

Gary -- I'm not really in favor of a logo or any overprint on the inside cover photos. I like the photos unspoiled. Otherwise it seems like advertising to me.
I know why you want a logo on the photo but I still prefer the photo without it.


I agree with that. And even more so when the pics are old black and white.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/larkparker/Miscellaneous/caryreduced.jpg Lark Parker
If at first you don't succeed -- you will get a lot of advice.

Lark Parker
03-12-2008, 07:43 AM
quote:Originally posted by monomaniac

Gary -- I'm not really in favor of a logo or any overprint on the inside cover photos. I like the photos unspoiled. Otherwise it seems like advertising to me.
I know why you want a logo on the photo but I still prefer the photo without it.


I agree with that. And even more so when the pics are old black and white.

http://i108.photobucket.com/albums/n4/larkparker/Miscellaneous/caryreduced.jpg Lark Parker
If at first you don't succeed -- you will get a lot of advice.

Dick Steinkamp
03-12-2008, 09:33 AM
Maybe it's time again to change up the cover format. It's been done several times in TW history.

Here's one idea.

Have a cover more like those on popular car magazines. 2 or 3 pictures with a few words on each that give hints to articles inside. The back cover becomes the "cover car" and may or may not be related to a story inside. Just a picture of a beautiful car belonging to a member. I also really like the old photos...especially the factory photos. Perhaps the inside covers could be devoted to "Studebaker history" using these photos. Another thought is to use the inside covers for what is currently on the first and last page of the non cover part of the magazine.

BTW, why does the bottom of EVERY page of the March issue say "Did you know that...the town of Hershey smells of chocolate?". Seems a little strange.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
03-12-2008, 09:33 AM
Maybe it's time again to change up the cover format. It's been done several times in TW history.

Here's one idea.

Have a cover more like those on popular car magazines. 2 or 3 pictures with a few words on each that give hints to articles inside. The back cover becomes the "cover car" and may or may not be related to a story inside. Just a picture of a beautiful car belonging to a member. I also really like the old photos...especially the factory photos. Perhaps the inside covers could be devoted to "Studebaker history" using these photos. Another thought is to use the inside covers for what is currently on the first and last page of the non cover part of the magazine.

BTW, why does the bottom of EVERY page of the March issue say "Did you know that...the town of Hershey smells of chocolate?". Seems a little strange.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

monomaniac
03-12-2008, 09:47 AM
Usually I agree with everything that Mr. Steinkamp says BUT not this time. I don't like modern car magazines. Besides being filled to overflowing with ads, the covers are splashed with text spoiling any photos. You know instantly that it's a commercial undertaking.

Covers are our one chance to show good color photos even when we can't afford color inside. I would certainly hate to spoil these covers, even inside, with tables of content and listings of club officers.

Our "footers" in TW are sometimes a joke, sometimes an historical fact or oddity and in the last few months they have been quotes from the Keystone group, promoting the coming Lancaster International Meet.

Sorry, Dick, but thanks for your ideas nonetheless.

monomaniac
03-12-2008, 09:47 AM
Usually I agree with everything that Mr. Steinkamp says BUT not this time. I don't like modern car magazines. Besides being filled to overflowing with ads, the covers are splashed with text spoiling any photos. You know instantly that it's a commercial undertaking.

Covers are our one chance to show good color photos even when we can't afford color inside. I would certainly hate to spoil these covers, even inside, with tables of content and listings of club officers.

Our "footers" in TW are sometimes a joke, sometimes an historical fact or oddity and in the last few months they have been quotes from the Keystone group, promoting the coming Lancaster International Meet.

Sorry, Dick, but thanks for your ideas nonetheless.

studeski
03-12-2008, 07:19 PM
When Art sent me an email for a picture of my Hawk with the correct wheel covers on it I nearly sh**. I didn't have one!!!! 200 pictures and not a one. Then he said I had until Christmas. With the worst winter in history (almost) I could see a challenge. So out in the snow and salt I go. It's 20 degrees out. I stopped at two places to take the pictures. I brought along a bunch of towels. The car was a mess when I got there. Wipe all the crud off and roll down the windows. Take the pictures and go to the next location. Then I drove 12 miles to Walgreens with the film and had all 8X10's printed. My digital doesn't shoot high enough resolution for a cover photo. Since they hardly ever use winter shots I figured I didn't have a chance. Well, Art proved me wrong. And a big Thank You to him. I can always pick my car out of a photo at an International meet I drove to, but this was a first for me no matter where it is placed.

Art I have always loved what you are doing with TW. Don't change a thing!

Claude

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/dakota01.jpg[/img=left]
"One after another they volunteered how in their families and in their
communities they were expected to be responsible for their behavior, how
honesty was assumed to be the rule, not the exception. They also talked
matter-of-factly about the sense of duty to their country, a sentiment not
much in fashion anymore."

studeski
03-12-2008, 07:19 PM
When Art sent me an email for a picture of my Hawk with the correct wheel covers on it I nearly sh**. I didn't have one!!!! 200 pictures and not a one. Then he said I had until Christmas. With the worst winter in history (almost) I could see a challenge. So out in the snow and salt I go. It's 20 degrees out. I stopped at two places to take the pictures. I brought along a bunch of towels. The car was a mess when I got there. Wipe all the crud off and roll down the windows. Take the pictures and go to the next location. Then I drove 12 miles to Walgreens with the film and had all 8X10's printed. My digital doesn't shoot high enough resolution for a cover photo. Since they hardly ever use winter shots I figured I didn't have a chance. Well, Art proved me wrong. And a big Thank You to him. I can always pick my car out of a photo at an International meet I drove to, but this was a first for me no matter where it is placed.

Art I have always loved what you are doing with TW. Don't change a thing!

Claude

Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/dakota01.jpg[/img=left]
"One after another they volunteered how in their families and in their
communities they were expected to be responsible for their behavior, how
honesty was assumed to be the rule, not the exception. They also talked
matter-of-factly about the sense of duty to their country, a sentiment not
much in fashion anymore."

monomaniac
03-12-2008, 07:48 PM
Studeski:
That is some dedication to get a photo!!

It turned out great!

Gary1953:
You say you're working on a photo. I sure hope you are not "photoshopping".

monomaniac
03-12-2008, 07:48 PM
Studeski:
That is some dedication to get a photo!!

It turned out great!

Gary1953:
You say you're working on a photo. I sure hope you are not "photoshopping".

BobPalma
03-12-2008, 07:56 PM
quote:Originally posted by monomaniac

Usually I agree with everything that Mr. Steinkamp says BUT not this time. I don't like modern car magazines. Besides being filled to overflowing with ads, the covers are splashed with text spoiling any photos. You know instantly that it's a commercial undertaking.

Sorry, Dick, but thanks for your ideas nonetheless.


:) Dick, I've got to agree with Art on this one. Much of a commercial magazine cover is designed to grab potential buyers browsing a magazine rack, for single-copy retail sales.

Because Turning Wheels is a paid-subscription-only magazine, it can enjoy a higher level of decorum and prestige on the covers than your basic retail rag. In other words, Hy-Klass. JMHO, of course. [^]BP

BobPalma
03-12-2008, 07:56 PM
quote:Originally posted by monomaniac

Usually I agree with everything that Mr. Steinkamp says BUT not this time. I don't like modern car magazines. Besides being filled to overflowing with ads, the covers are splashed with text spoiling any photos. You know instantly that it's a commercial undertaking.

Sorry, Dick, but thanks for your ideas nonetheless.


:) Dick, I've got to agree with Art on this one. Much of a commercial magazine cover is designed to grab potential buyers browsing a magazine rack, for single-copy retail sales.

Because Turning Wheels is a paid-subscription-only magazine, it can enjoy a higher level of decorum and prestige on the covers than your basic retail rag. In other words, Hy-Klass. JMHO, of course. [^]BP

Dick Steinkamp
03-12-2008, 08:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma


:) Dick, I've got to agree with Art on this one. Much of a commercial magazine cover is designed to grab potential buyers browsing a magazine rack, for single-copy retail sales.

Because Turning Wheels is a paid-subscription-only magazine, it can enjoy a higher level of decorum and prestige on the covers than your basic retail rag. In other words, Hy-Klass. JMHO, of course. [^]BP


I guess I didn't envision something EXACTLY like Cosmo ;). Even though we are a "captive audience", it probably doesn't hurt to change SOME things every now and then. TW is a GREAT mag and Art and Ann do a fantastic job. No complaints what so ever (especially this month with my Hawk on the cover [8D]). Just some food for thought. Maybe not the PERFECT idea [B)], but perhaps a few changes every now and then would serve to keep things fresh and interesting.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
03-12-2008, 08:14 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma


:) Dick, I've got to agree with Art on this one. Much of a commercial magazine cover is designed to grab potential buyers browsing a magazine rack, for single-copy retail sales.

Because Turning Wheels is a paid-subscription-only magazine, it can enjoy a higher level of decorum and prestige on the covers than your basic retail rag. In other words, Hy-Klass. JMHO, of course. [^]BP


I guess I didn't envision something EXACTLY like Cosmo ;). Even though we are a "captive audience", it probably doesn't hurt to change SOME things every now and then. TW is a GREAT mag and Art and Ann do a fantastic job. No complaints what so ever (especially this month with my Hawk on the cover [8D]). Just some food for thought. Maybe not the PERFECT idea [B)], but perhaps a few changes every now and then would serve to keep things fresh and interesting.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Gary1953
03-12-2008, 08:19 PM
Art,
The picture you are asking about is still on my camera memory card. When I get home I am going to down load it to a disc to send to you. That is the way to get the picture to you correct? I don't have photoshop on my home computer at this time. With all the dicussion about cover cars I am going to write up something to go with the picture.


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/gsandes50/100_2151.jpg
Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.

Gary1953
03-12-2008, 08:19 PM
Art,
The picture you are asking about is still on my camera memory card. When I get home I am going to down load it to a disc to send to you. That is the way to get the picture to you correct? I don't have photoshop on my home computer at this time. With all the dicussion about cover cars I am going to write up something to go with the picture.


http://i98.photobucket.com/albums/l269/gsandes50/100_2151.jpg
Gary Sanders
Nixa, MO
President Toy Studebaker Collectors Club. Have an interest in Toy Studebakers? Contact me for details.

monomaniac
03-12-2008, 08:21 PM
That's wonderful Gary! As long as you don't photoshop it. We need the original. And a writeup is a bonus. Thanks.

monomaniac
03-12-2008, 08:21 PM
That's wonderful Gary! As long as you don't photoshop it. We need the original. And a writeup is a bonus. Thanks.

sbca96
03-13-2008, 02:11 AM
I agree its an honor to have your car on the cover of a magazine, even
more so if you took the picture.[:I]

http://hometown.aol.com/sbca96/images/Avantinewimages/Cover_Picture_Day/cover50percent.jpg

Tom

'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

sbca96
03-13-2008, 02:11 AM
I agree its an honor to have your car on the cover of a magazine, even
more so if you took the picture.[:I]

http://hometown.aol.com/sbca96/images/Avantinewimages/Cover_Picture_Day/cover50percent.jpg

Tom

'63 Avanti, zinc plated drilled & slotted 03 Mustang Cobra 13" front disc/98 GT rear brakes, 03 Cobra 17" wheels, GM alt, 97 Z28 leather seats, soon: TKO 5-spd, Ported heads w/SST full flow valves, 'R3' 276 cam, Edelbrock AFB Carb, GM HEI distributor, 8.8mm plug wires

47M-5
03-13-2008, 10:21 AM
Art:
I would agree with others that the car chosen has some of the alure. Also I would be honored just to be on the cover, however as always the Front cover is the position of choice generally
Art

47M-5
03-13-2008, 10:21 AM
Art:
I would agree with others that the car chosen has some of the alure. Also I would be honored just to be on the cover, however as always the Front cover is the position of choice generally
Art