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jacsprat
03-09-2008, 12:40 AM
Anyone have pictures of the boat-tailed bodied Studebaker at York on Saterday?

lstude
03-09-2008, 03:13 AM
They are on page 2 of Bams Webshots photos. Here is the link:

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/bams50/York%2008/



Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/MeatSouthBendsm1.jpg

lstude
03-09-2008, 03:13 AM
They are on page 2 of Bams Webshots photos. Here is the link:

http://s12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/bams50/York%2008/



Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/MeatSouthBendsm1.jpg

fastfritz
03-09-2008, 06:03 AM
With all that fabrication you would think he could have made a battery hold down..................

Frank Remlinger
SDC# A004602R
http://automotivemachine.net/smleftsdcaps.jpg

fastfritz
03-09-2008, 06:03 AM
With all that fabrication you would think he could have made a battery hold down..................

Frank Remlinger
SDC# A004602R
http://automotivemachine.net/smleftsdcaps.jpg

bams50
03-09-2008, 06:10 AM
Here's my pics of it:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/bams50/York%2008/York08050.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/bams50/York%2008/York08052.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/bams50/York%2008/York08053.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/bams50/York%2008/York08051.jpg

Didn't get to talk to the owner, but I believe I overheard him telling someone he's getting ready to build another one.....

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that parking is a pleasure, traffic is a breeze, turning's no trick at all, and happiness is a thing called Larking!"

bams50
03-09-2008, 06:10 AM
Here's my pics of it:

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/bams50/York%2008/York08050.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/bams50/York%2008/York08052.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/bams50/York%2008/York08053.jpg

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a243/bams50/York%2008/York08051.jpg

Didn't get to talk to the owner, but I believe I overheard him telling someone he's getting ready to build another one.....

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that parking is a pleasure, traffic is a breeze, turning's no trick at all, and happiness is a thing called Larking!"

Guido
03-09-2008, 06:14 AM
I was too busy trying to sell parts to even look at it, thanks for the pictures. Now we just need Craig to identify the Chrysler product in front of the car in picture 2. :D

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/62/562/2/21/69/2353221690097493054hwathP_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/60/460/3/91/1/2433391010097493054nAMBKh_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/2/49/65/2603249650097493054XvpTUI_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/64/564/6/89/77/2752689770097493054skXzAT_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/5/22/8/2609522080097493054ZNRJeA_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/69/169/4/66/56/2729466560097493054oBZsXT_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

See pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
03-09-2008, 06:14 AM
I was too busy trying to sell parts to even look at it, thanks for the pictures. Now we just need Craig to identify the Chrysler product in front of the car in picture 2. :D

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/62/562/2/21/69/2353221690097493054hwathP_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/60/460/3/91/1/2433391010097493054nAMBKh_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/2/49/65/2603249650097493054XvpTUI_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/64/564/6/89/77/2752689770097493054skXzAT_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/5/22/8/2609522080097493054ZNRJeA_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/69/169/4/66/56/2729466560097493054oBZsXT_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

See pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

lstude
03-09-2008, 06:39 AM
quote:I was too busy trying to sell parts to even look at it, thanks for the pictures. Now we just need Craig to identify the Chrysler product in front of the car in picture 2.

I'm not Craig, but that is a 66 Plymouth Fury VIP, with an asking price of $5,000.00

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/York200866Fury.jpg

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/MeatSouthBendsm1.jpg

lstude
03-09-2008, 06:39 AM
quote:I was too busy trying to sell parts to even look at it, thanks for the pictures. Now we just need Craig to identify the Chrysler product in front of the car in picture 2.

I'm not Craig, but that is a 66 Plymouth Fury VIP, with an asking price of $5,000.00

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/York200866Fury.jpg

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/MeatSouthBendsm1.jpg

64V-K7
03-09-2008, 06:44 AM
The owner is in the white cap in the first picture. It's called the "JKS", his initials and his home is north of Lancaster. It's built on a 63 Lark chassis. The lower control arms are modified to sink the springs and make it lower to the ground. Rack & pinion from a Pontiac center point. Wheels are from early F**d. Full flow engine, but the filter is mounted on the firewall. Weight is 3100. Something was mentioned about the lights, but I can't remember

Bob Johnstone
http://www.studebaker-info.org/7168422/sig2.jpg

64V-K7
03-09-2008, 06:44 AM
The owner is in the white cap in the first picture. It's called the "JKS", his initials and his home is north of Lancaster. It's built on a 63 Lark chassis. The lower control arms are modified to sink the springs and make it lower to the ground. Rack & pinion from a Pontiac center point. Wheels are from early F**d. Full flow engine, but the filter is mounted on the firewall. Weight is 3100. Something was mentioned about the lights, but I can't remember

Bob Johnstone
http://www.studebaker-info.org/7168422/sig2.jpg

lstude
03-09-2008, 07:14 AM
Tom Covington built a roadster on a 61 Lark chassis back in the 80s. Here are pictures. That is my son standing next to it on the top picture and Tom on the lower picture.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/Tomsroadster1986sm.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/TomsRoadsterengine.jpg

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/MeatSouthBendsm1.jpg

lstude
03-09-2008, 07:14 AM
Tom Covington built a roadster on a 61 Lark chassis back in the 80s. Here are pictures. That is my son standing next to it on the top picture and Tom on the lower picture.

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/Tomsroadster1986sm.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/TomsRoadsterengine.jpg

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/MeatSouthBendsm1.jpg

gordr
03-09-2008, 07:59 AM
Anybody remember a recurring plot device in the old Superman comic books, the Bizarro World, called Htrae, a cube-shaped planet populated by pallid, oddly-faceted counterparts to the characters in Metropolis?

What we have here is no less than a Bizarro Excalibur. I'm not trying to be nasty here, but this is perfect example of a whole lot of talented work thrown into a design that falls a little short of elegant.

I think the only neo-classic that even comes close to looking good IS the Excalibur, probably because it was the work of a top-notch designer, Brooks Stevens, who deliberately patterned it after the classic pre-war Mercedes roadsters. Stevens managed to get the proportions right, and the car looks good. Most all other neo-classics, home-builts or otherwise, get tripped up by the simple fact that the cars of the classic era looked like they did because of the way they were engineered. They were long and narrow, because to get a good ride with leaf springs all round, you needed a long wheelbase, with the seating inside the wheelbase. You needed a long frame to accommodate the springs, and a long engine block. You had a side-mount spare, because the body design didn't have room for a trunk big enough to hold the large wheels of the day. Look at real boat-tail speedsters, and many of them have dual spares hung on the rear bumper.

It's really tough to build a classic-style body on a newer frame, because the proportions are all wrong. The front A-arms look goofy hanging out in the breeze. I'll give the builder of that car his props for having carried the project through to completion, and for the generally good fit and finish, but sadly it has a face that only a mother could love.

I actually like Tom Covington's car a whole lot better, because it doesn't pretend to be a classic; it's just a stripped-down, souped-up Lark made into a sporty roadster. Has a turbo on it, too. Big, dirty, fun!

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

gordr
03-09-2008, 07:59 AM
Anybody remember a recurring plot device in the old Superman comic books, the Bizarro World, called Htrae, a cube-shaped planet populated by pallid, oddly-faceted counterparts to the characters in Metropolis?

What we have here is no less than a Bizarro Excalibur. I'm not trying to be nasty here, but this is perfect example of a whole lot of talented work thrown into a design that falls a little short of elegant.

I think the only neo-classic that even comes close to looking good IS the Excalibur, probably because it was the work of a top-notch designer, Brooks Stevens, who deliberately patterned it after the classic pre-war Mercedes roadsters. Stevens managed to get the proportions right, and the car looks good. Most all other neo-classics, home-builts or otherwise, get tripped up by the simple fact that the cars of the classic era looked like they did because of the way they were engineered. They were long and narrow, because to get a good ride with leaf springs all round, you needed a long wheelbase, with the seating inside the wheelbase. You needed a long frame to accommodate the springs, and a long engine block. You had a side-mount spare, because the body design didn't have room for a trunk big enough to hold the large wheels of the day. Look at real boat-tail speedsters, and many of them have dual spares hung on the rear bumper.

It's really tough to build a classic-style body on a newer frame, because the proportions are all wrong. The front A-arms look goofy hanging out in the breeze. I'll give the builder of that car his props for having carried the project through to completion, and for the generally good fit and finish, but sadly it has a face that only a mother could love.

I actually like Tom Covington's car a whole lot better, because it doesn't pretend to be a classic; it's just a stripped-down, souped-up Lark made into a sporty roadster. Has a turbo on it, too. Big, dirty, fun!

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

bams50
03-09-2008, 09:08 AM
quote:Originally posted by 55Prez


The owner is in the white cap in the first picture. It's called the "JKS", his initials and his home is north of Lancaster. It's built on a 63 Lark chassis. The lower control arms are modified to sink the springs and make it lower to the ground. Rack & pinion from a Pontiac center point. Wheels are from early F**d. Full flow engine, but the filter is mounted on the firewall. Weight is 3100. Something was mentioned about the lights, but I can't remember

Bob Johnstone


Thanks, Bob. I knew that was you in my first picture, wondered if that was the owner you were talking to. Thanks for the info.

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that parking is a pleasure, traffic is a breeze, turning's no trick at all, and happiness is a thing called Larking!"

bams50
03-09-2008, 09:08 AM
quote:Originally posted by 55Prez


The owner is in the white cap in the first picture. It's called the "JKS", his initials and his home is north of Lancaster. It's built on a 63 Lark chassis. The lower control arms are modified to sink the springs and make it lower to the ground. Rack & pinion from a Pontiac center point. Wheels are from early F**d. Full flow engine, but the filter is mounted on the firewall. Weight is 3100. Something was mentioned about the lights, but I can't remember

Bob Johnstone


Thanks, Bob. I knew that was you in my first picture, wondered if that was the owner you were talking to. Thanks for the info.

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that parking is a pleasure, traffic is a breeze, turning's no trick at all, and happiness is a thing called Larking!"

Roscomacaw
03-09-2008, 01:37 PM
I was gonna write something, but then got to where Gord said all I was gonna say. Great execution, but hardly in the true classic boat-tail tradition.
I had the extremely good fortune to drive a number of prewar boattailed cars - any one of which were more attractive than this latter-day attempt.
My favorites were a '27 RR with REAL hardwood top deck and a Hispano-Suiza that was completely covered in wicker! Oh! And there was a FN too. Underpowered as hell, but gorgeous to look at!:D

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
03-09-2008, 01:37 PM
I was gonna write something, but then got to where Gord said all I was gonna say. Great execution, but hardly in the true classic boat-tail tradition.
I had the extremely good fortune to drive a number of prewar boattailed cars - any one of which were more attractive than this latter-day attempt.
My favorites were a '27 RR with REAL hardwood top deck and a Hispano-Suiza that was completely covered in wicker! Oh! And there was a FN too. Underpowered as hell, but gorgeous to look at!:D

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

bondobilly
03-09-2008, 02:15 PM
He must have had anti-freeze in his blood stream, cause to me even with a great heater it would have been too cold to drive it there that day. Funny, I looked at it, wondered what it was, but was too cold to stand out there and really look it over. Can anyone spell Whimp.??

bondobilly
03-09-2008, 02:15 PM
He must have had anti-freeze in his blood stream, cause to me even with a great heater it would have been too cold to drive it there that day. Funny, I looked at it, wondered what it was, but was too cold to stand out there and really look it over. Can anyone spell Whimp.??

52-fan
03-09-2008, 03:30 PM
I also like Tom's better. The other is interesting and may have been a fun project, but not quite right. If the builder likes it though, that's all that matters.;)

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

52-fan
03-09-2008, 03:30 PM
I also like Tom's better. The other is interesting and may have been a fun project, but not quite right. If the builder likes it though, that's all that matters.;)

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas