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rockne10
03-07-2008, 10:44 PM
Would anyone miss it if it didn't happen? It's not SDC sanctioned, is it? How are these organized? Is there a venue?

Swifster
03-08-2008, 12:36 AM
I don't know about Lancaster, as my car won't be ready, but I'd be extremely disappointed if there was no drags ay Phoenix (er, Glendale). Many of us have modified cars going together and giving them a little exercise is part of the fun.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $1826.83)

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Swifster
03-08-2008, 12:36 AM
I don't know about Lancaster, as my car won't be ready, but I'd be extremely disappointed if there was no drags ay Phoenix (er, Glendale). Many of us have modified cars going together and giving them a little exercise is part of the fun.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $1826.83)

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Avantidon
03-08-2008, 08:55 AM
One of the primary reasons that there has been no discussion about a Drag related event is that it is NOT SPONSORED OR CONDONNED OR COVERED by the SDC's Insurance Policy. Also the primary organizers of this event at past International Meets will be at the Pure Stock Drags im MI during this meet. Another reason for no conversation is that the closest drag strip available is the renown Maple Grove Speedway which will only accomodate groups on tune and test nights (Tuesday and Wednesday) and you run what is in the other lane regardless of what it is. They will not give a group of Studebaker nut an exclusive time period. If you go the other way (South) the closest strip is in Howard County MD and that is too far to drive. That's the scoop at this point. If it changes we will let you know.

Avantidon
03-08-2008, 08:55 AM
One of the primary reasons that there has been no discussion about a Drag related event is that it is NOT SPONSORED OR CONDONNED OR COVERED by the SDC's Insurance Policy. Also the primary organizers of this event at past International Meets will be at the Pure Stock Drags im MI during this meet. Another reason for no conversation is that the closest drag strip available is the renown Maple Grove Speedway which will only accomodate groups on tune and test nights (Tuesday and Wednesday) and you run what is in the other lane regardless of what it is. They will not give a group of Studebaker nut an exclusive time period. If you go the other way (South) the closest strip is in Howard County MD and that is too far to drive. That's the scoop at this point. If it changes we will let you know.

Guido
03-08-2008, 09:16 AM
Don,

Are you speaking of the Cecil County Dragway down in Rising Sun? If so, that is only about 30 miles south on 222. I think they run a "Test and Tune" on Wednesday nights and have "Street and Grudge" racing on Friday nights.

http://www.cecilcountydragway.com/

Gary

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

See pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
03-08-2008, 09:16 AM
Don,

Are you speaking of the Cecil County Dragway down in Rising Sun? If so, that is only about 30 miles south on 222. I think they run a "Test and Tune" on Wednesday nights and have "Street and Grudge" racing on Friday nights.

http://www.cecilcountydragway.com/

Gary

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

See pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Dick Steinkamp
03-08-2008, 09:32 AM
quote:Originally posted by Avantidon

One of the primary reasons that there has been no discussion about a Drag related event is that it is NOT SPONSORED OR CONDONNED OR COVERED by the SDC's Insurance Policy. Also the primary organizers of this event at past International Meets will be at the Pure Stock Drags im MI during this meet. Another reason for no conversation is that the closest drag strip available is the renown Maple Grove Speedway which will only accomodate groups on tune and test nights (Tuesday and Wednesday) and you run what is in the other lane regardless of what it is. They will not give a group of Studebaker nut an exclusive time period. If you go the other way (South) the closest strip is in Howard County MD and that is too far to drive. That's the scoop at this point. If it changes we will let you know.


I won't be at Lancaster, but I did enjoy the drags at Omaha and South Bend. One of the high points at each for me. It would be a shame if those that wanted to race or watch drags at Lancaster didn't have the opportunity.

Even though they are not (and can not be) sponsored or condoned by the SDC, there was lots of discussion here on the forum about the drags. I don't think discussing it here implies sponsorship by the SDC.

Although Ted put together the one at South Bend, 41Frank (Frank VanDoorn) put together the one at Omaha. All it takes is an interested person in the area to make the arrangements. It doesn't have to be Ted or one of the "famous" Studebaker drag racers. In fact it would be much easier if a local did it.

At South Bend, I believe we "piggybacked" on a test and tune night. There were plenty of non Studebakers out there. I set my best time against a Nissan. The object is just to have some fun and get some time slips. Seeing old Studebaker iron shut down something new and modern is icing on the cake [8D].

Again, IMHO, it would be a real shame if "unofficial drags" were not included in the "unofficial activities" at Lancaster. It was a great time for me and I think for the other folks that raced and watched. Hopefully somebody can talk to the operators at the local track and publish the best day for some racing.

Here's their schedule...

http://www.maplegroveraceway.com/eventschedule.asp

It looks like the entire week of the International Meet is open for the track at this point.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
03-08-2008, 09:32 AM
quote:Originally posted by Avantidon

One of the primary reasons that there has been no discussion about a Drag related event is that it is NOT SPONSORED OR CONDONNED OR COVERED by the SDC's Insurance Policy. Also the primary organizers of this event at past International Meets will be at the Pure Stock Drags im MI during this meet. Another reason for no conversation is that the closest drag strip available is the renown Maple Grove Speedway which will only accomodate groups on tune and test nights (Tuesday and Wednesday) and you run what is in the other lane regardless of what it is. They will not give a group of Studebaker nut an exclusive time period. If you go the other way (South) the closest strip is in Howard County MD and that is too far to drive. That's the scoop at this point. If it changes we will let you know.


I won't be at Lancaster, but I did enjoy the drags at Omaha and South Bend. One of the high points at each for me. It would be a shame if those that wanted to race or watch drags at Lancaster didn't have the opportunity.

Even though they are not (and can not be) sponsored or condoned by the SDC, there was lots of discussion here on the forum about the drags. I don't think discussing it here implies sponsorship by the SDC.

Although Ted put together the one at South Bend, 41Frank (Frank VanDoorn) put together the one at Omaha. All it takes is an interested person in the area to make the arrangements. It doesn't have to be Ted or one of the "famous" Studebaker drag racers. In fact it would be much easier if a local did it.

At South Bend, I believe we "piggybacked" on a test and tune night. There were plenty of non Studebakers out there. I set my best time against a Nissan. The object is just to have some fun and get some time slips. Seeing old Studebaker iron shut down something new and modern is icing on the cake [8D].

Again, IMHO, it would be a real shame if "unofficial drags" were not included in the "unofficial activities" at Lancaster. It was a great time for me and I think for the other folks that raced and watched. Hopefully somebody can talk to the operators at the local track and publish the best day for some racing.

Here's their schedule...

http://www.maplegroveraceway.com/eventschedule.asp

It looks like the entire week of the International Meet is open for the track at this point.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Avantidon
03-08-2008, 10:23 AM
Gary and Dick

I don't disagree with either of you as at Charlotte I ran about 15 times or more in my 73 Avanti II and had a blast. While I had the 63 R-2 there too it stayed at the Hotel and did not see the drag strip. I personally simply cannot take on anymore responsibility at this meet. I am currently fulfilling the PR Director role, the Concours Director's role along with hosting the AOAI event and being their meet committee member. If someone else wants to step to the fore-front at take responsibility for establihing something at either Maple Grove or Cecil County we would be happy for it. My experience it has always been done by someone outside of the meet committee. So if someone wants to do it please feel free to take the reins and go to it.

Avantidon
03-08-2008, 10:23 AM
Gary and Dick

I don't disagree with either of you as at Charlotte I ran about 15 times or more in my 73 Avanti II and had a blast. While I had the 63 R-2 there too it stayed at the Hotel and did not see the drag strip. I personally simply cannot take on anymore responsibility at this meet. I am currently fulfilling the PR Director role, the Concours Director's role along with hosting the AOAI event and being their meet committee member. If someone else wants to step to the fore-front at take responsibility for establihing something at either Maple Grove or Cecil County we would be happy for it. My experience it has always been done by someone outside of the meet committee. So if someone wants to do it please feel free to take the reins and go to it.

Guido
03-08-2008, 10:56 AM
Looks like Saturday is the traditional "test and tune" and "grudge night" at Maple Grove based on the published schedule. I need to leave on Thursday night in order to be back in Richmond for the opening of our tractor show on Friday. Is there someone else in the Lancaster area that can step in and make some inquiries?

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

See pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
03-08-2008, 10:56 AM
Looks like Saturday is the traditional "test and tune" and "grudge night" at Maple Grove based on the published schedule. I need to leave on Thursday night in order to be back in Richmond for the opening of our tractor show on Friday. Is there someone else in the Lancaster area that can step in and make some inquiries?

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/62/562/2/21/69/2353221690097493054hwathP_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/60/460/3/91/1/2433391010097493054nAMBKh_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/2/49/65/2603249650097493054XvpTUI_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/64/564/6/89/77/2752689770097493054skXzAT_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/5/22/8/2609522080097493054ZNRJeA_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/69/169/4/66/56/2729466560097493054oBZsXT_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

See pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Dick Steinkamp
03-08-2008, 02:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

Looks like Saturday is the traditional "test and tune" and "grudge night" at Maple Grove


By Saturday, there will be very few Studebaker folks left in Lancaster. :(. On the schedule, it looks like nothing is happening at the strip all week. Worth at least a phone call to the strip to see if they are interested in opening one afternoon.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
03-08-2008, 02:11 PM
quote:Originally posted by Guido

Looks like Saturday is the traditional "test and tune" and "grudge night" at Maple Grove


By Saturday, there will be very few Studebaker folks left in Lancaster. :(. On the schedule, it looks like nothing is happening at the strip all week. Worth at least a phone call to the strip to see if they are interested in opening one afternoon.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

JRoberts
03-08-2008, 04:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by Avantidon

One of the primary reasons that there has been no discussion about a Drag related event is that it is NOT SPONSORED OR CONDONNED OR COVERED by the SDC's Insurance Policy. Also the primary organizers of this event at past International Meets will be at the Pure Stock Drags im MI during this meet. Another reason for no conversation is that the closest drag strip available is the renown Maple Grove Speedway which will only accomodate groups on tune and test nights (Tuesday and Wednesday) and you run what is in the other lane regardless of what it is. They will not give a group of Studebaker nut an exclusive time period. If you go the other way (South) the closest strip is in Howard County MD and that is too far to drive. That's the scoop at this point. If it changes we will let you know.


I know this is the SDC policy and to a point I understand it. My question here is one that I have been meaning to ask about the Poker Run scheduled for the Lancaster International Meet. Our chapter used to run a rally every year. It was a gimmick type rally and all who participated really enjoyed it. I was the guy who originated the idea and really had fun putting the event on. Then SDC told us that such events, including Poker Runs and Hound and Hare events, were considered to by competitive events and thus not covered by SDC insurance. Their suggestion was that we not hold such events. I was very disappointed in this ruling and begrudgingly put on a couple of tours instead but eventually stopped altogether. How has the Keystone Chapter gotten around the ruling about competitive automotive events such as The Great American Keystone Poker Run. Please understand I am not upset that you guys are doing this -- I like the idea very much. I just want to know how you got around the idea of this being the type of event that the SDC insurance does not cover.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

JRoberts
03-08-2008, 04:35 PM
quote:Originally posted by Avantidon

One of the primary reasons that there has been no discussion about a Drag related event is that it is NOT SPONSORED OR CONDONNED OR COVERED by the SDC's Insurance Policy. Also the primary organizers of this event at past International Meets will be at the Pure Stock Drags im MI during this meet. Another reason for no conversation is that the closest drag strip available is the renown Maple Grove Speedway which will only accomodate groups on tune and test nights (Tuesday and Wednesday) and you run what is in the other lane regardless of what it is. They will not give a group of Studebaker nut an exclusive time period. If you go the other way (South) the closest strip is in Howard County MD and that is too far to drive. That's the scoop at this point. If it changes we will let you know.


I know this is the SDC policy and to a point I understand it. My question here is one that I have been meaning to ask about the Poker Run scheduled for the Lancaster International Meet. Our chapter used to run a rally every year. It was a gimmick type rally and all who participated really enjoyed it. I was the guy who originated the idea and really had fun putting the event on. Then SDC told us that such events, including Poker Runs and Hound and Hare events, were considered to by competitive events and thus not covered by SDC insurance. Their suggestion was that we not hold such events. I was very disappointed in this ruling and begrudgingly put on a couple of tours instead but eventually stopped altogether. How has the Keystone Chapter gotten around the ruling about competitive automotive events such as The Great American Keystone Poker Run. Please understand I am not upset that you guys are doing this -- I like the idea very much. I just want to know how you got around the idea of this being the type of event that the SDC insurance does not cover.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

Avantidon
03-08-2008, 06:32 PM
Joe in response to your question I will attempt to give you the best answer that I can. First of all this is an event to help all participants to see a lot of Lancaster County in a relaxed manner. It is not a timed event and is not a speed contest. There are five stops ranging from covered bridges to the Rebecca Mohler Homestead. Yes this is the farm and dwelling where John Clement courted and asked to marry his future wife. This is actually a very beautiful place. The Mohler family was a "Householder" family within the Ephrata Cloisture and could live outside the Cloisture. The SDC is very aware of this event as it has been well published and the SDC Meet Master has been in on it from the begining. There is no pressure to enter or even finish the run. Based on that we have the blessings of the SDC. I know this does not fully answer you question but it is the best I can do. If you want to discuss further please let me know how to reach you and i will reach out to you

Avantidon
03-08-2008, 06:32 PM
Joe in response to your question I will attempt to give you the best answer that I can. First of all this is an event to help all participants to see a lot of Lancaster County in a relaxed manner. It is not a timed event and is not a speed contest. There are five stops ranging from covered bridges to the Rebecca Mohler Homestead. Yes this is the farm and dwelling where John Clement courted and asked to marry his future wife. This is actually a very beautiful place. The Mohler family was a "Householder" family within the Ephrata Cloisture and could live outside the Cloisture. The SDC is very aware of this event as it has been well published and the SDC Meet Master has been in on it from the begining. There is no pressure to enter or even finish the run. Based on that we have the blessings of the SDC. I know this does not fully answer you question but it is the best I can do. If you want to discuss further please let me know how to reach you and i will reach out to you

laughinlark
03-09-2008, 10:25 PM
I agree that Drag Racing while at the meet is a blast. In 02 I drove from Calif to SB for the meet. I had a blast racing with everyone in my 64 Cruiser. In 05 I drove my 63 Lark to Spokane for the meet. I didn't hear about any drag racing as part of the meet. But I had lived in Spokane in the early 90's and knew that there would be racing on the weekend. So when things started to slow down at the meet. I went to the Strip and had a blast anyway. True it would have been more fun with Stude people there, but if you just go & enter. Its all good.:D
There was one other Stude there. But he wasn't a Stude guy.

Gordon

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laughinlark
03-09-2008, 10:25 PM
I agree that Drag Racing while at the meet is a blast. In 02 I drove from Calif to SB for the meet. I had a blast racing with everyone in my 64 Cruiser. In 05 I drove my 63 Lark to Spokane for the meet. I didn't hear about any drag racing as part of the meet. But I had lived in Spokane in the early 90's and knew that there would be racing on the weekend. So when things started to slow down at the meet. I went to the Strip and had a blast anyway. True it would have been more fun with Stude people there, but if you just go & enter. Its all good.:D
There was one other Stude there. But he wasn't a Stude guy.

Gordon

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Swifster
03-10-2008, 12:12 AM
Seperate insurance for competition type events is not that hard to get and not that unreasonable. The local chapter could even do this themselves. If the SCCA, the BMWCCA and the Porsche Club, to name but a few can pull of large scale events, it tells me this is a lack of interest issue by the board more than anything else. It's kind of like picking a historical area of the country to have a meet and then making at a time that you can't bring kids to teach it to . Of picking an area like Phoenix/Glendale, AZ and then having the meet in June because it's the off season [V].

If the racing isn't on the schedule in 2010, I'd probably wait for 2011 or 2012. Just my opinion and not all will agree, but I'll state it they way I see it.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

[b]1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $1826.83)

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Swifster
03-10-2008, 12:12 AM
Seperate insurance for competition type events is not that hard to get and not that unreasonable. The local chapter could even do this themselves. If the SCCA, the BMWCCA and the Porsche Club, to name but a few can pull of large scale events, it tells me this is a lack of interest issue by the board more than anything else. It's kind of like picking a historical area of the country to have a meet and then making at a time that you can't bring kids to teach it to . Of picking an area like Phoenix/Glendale, AZ and then having the meet in June because it's the off season [V].

If the racing isn't on the schedule in 2010, I'd probably wait for 2011 or 2012. Just my opinion and not all will agree, but I'll state it they way I see it.

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Tom - Mulberry, FL

[b]1964 Studebaker Daytona - 289 4V, 4-Speed (Cost To Date: $1826.83)

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Avantidon
03-10-2008, 06:46 AM
Tom

It is not that we don't want to do it it is that there is no one to coordinate and arrange it. It has always been done by those who go to the Pure Stock Drags in MI and at a near by drag strip. While there are two strips near by they are of very high quality and are used constantly and to rent the track for a day is prohibitive in cost. If a local strip were more affordable and someone wanted to set it up, I am sure they would come. I have personally participated in these events and know all about the insurance aspect of it but as I have said I do not have the time this year to even think about arranging this non-SDC sponsored event.

As for having the event in September, there were many reasons that didtated this move. First of all we could never have done this in June, July and August because of the hieight of the tourist season and the unavailability of the faciliies we needed to use. Don't forget and then again you may not know we have done this before and we did do in the height of the tourist season (July 1980) in Gettysburg and litterly shut the entire town down. If you were not t here just ask anyone who was and they will be happy to tell you the details. Yes, that was 28 years ago but the SDC has nearly doubled in since then so we needed to consider that also. IN addition, the demographics of the club and the original slaes of Studebakers indicates that more cars exist within a day's drive of Lancaster tthan do within the same radius of SB. Another reason for the date selection.

Now, one last point. Most school districts in the country allow children to be taken on "Educational Vacations." This are of the country both from a historical basis and from an educational basis qualifies and parents have absolutely no problem justifying the trip to their local school districts. All they need to do is ask.

We have tried to think of all the angles and aspects for this the greatest SDC International ever to be held. So come and see what we have planned.

Avantidon
03-10-2008, 06:46 AM
Tom

It is not that we don't want to do it it is that there is no one to coordinate and arrange it. It has always been done by those who go to the Pure Stock Drags in MI and at a near by drag strip. While there are two strips near by they are of very high quality and are used constantly and to rent the track for a day is prohibitive in cost. If a local strip were more affordable and someone wanted to set it up, I am sure they would come. I have personally participated in these events and know all about the insurance aspect of it but as I have said I do not have the time this year to even think about arranging this non-SDC sponsored event.

As for having the event in September, there were many reasons that didtated this move. First of all we could never have done this in June, July and August because of the hieight of the tourist season and the unavailability of the faciliies we needed to use. Don't forget and then again you may not know we have done this before and we did do in the height of the tourist season (July 1980) in Gettysburg and litterly shut the entire town down. If you were not t here just ask anyone who was and they will be happy to tell you the details. Yes, that was 28 years ago but the SDC has nearly doubled in since then so we needed to consider that also. IN addition, the demographics of the club and the original slaes of Studebakers indicates that more cars exist within a day's drive of Lancaster tthan do within the same radius of SB. Another reason for the date selection.

Now, one last point. Most school districts in the country allow children to be taken on "Educational Vacations." This are of the country both from a historical basis and from an educational basis qualifies and parents have absolutely no problem justifying the trip to their local school districts. All they need to do is ask.

We have tried to think of all the angles and aspects for this the greatest SDC International ever to be held. So come and see what we have planned.

Green53
03-10-2008, 09:56 AM
There will be unofficial drags in 2010. Speedworld is just a short distance away from the meet headquarters.
Denny L

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/Daytona64/53Stude2015.jpg

Green53
03-10-2008, 09:56 AM
There will be unofficial drags in 2010. Speedworld is just a short distance away from the meet headquarters.
Denny L

http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff85/Daytona64/53Stude2015.jpg

41 Frank
03-10-2008, 02:12 PM
Thought I would chime in on this while I have the use of green 53's computer. When I arranged the drags at Omaha all it took was a phone call and a follow up call right before the meet to the track manager. He agreed to open up early as they have regularly scheduled Friday night street racing type drags. It was a piece of cake to set it up even though I also had other duties at the SDC meet there.;) I have it on good authority that drags are planned at Cedar Rapids in 2009, so mark that date on your calender!!!:D,almost in my backyard,and the following year in AZ.:D as Green 53 has said.

Frank van Doorn
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1963 Daytona Conv
1941 Champion R-2 Rod

41 Frank
03-10-2008, 02:12 PM
Thought I would chime in on this while I have the use of green 53's computer. When I arranged the drags at Omaha all it took was a phone call and a follow up call right before the meet to the track manager. He agreed to open up early as they have regularly scheduled Friday night street racing type drags. It was a piece of cake to set it up even though I also had other duties at the SDC meet there.;) I have it on good authority that drags are planned at Cedar Rapids in 2009, so mark that date on your calender!!!:D,almost in my backyard,and the following year in AZ.:D as Green 53 has said.

Frank van Doorn
1962 GT Hawk 4 speed
1963 Daytona Conv
1941 Champion R-2 Rod

Dick Steinkamp
03-10-2008, 06:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by 41 Frank
When I arranged the drags at Omaha all it took was a phone call and a follow up call right before the meet to the track manager.


...and a fine job you did, Frank. I enjoyed the heck out of it...even though StudeDude kicked my butt repeatedly. :(

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Dick Steinkamp
03-10-2008, 06:25 PM
quote:Originally posted by 41 Frank
When I arranged the drags at Omaha all it took was a phone call and a follow up call right before the meet to the track manager.


...and a fine job you did, Frank. I enjoyed the heck out of it...even though StudeDude kicked my butt repeatedly. :(

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

glen
03-10-2008, 06:39 PM
I'm glad that someone let "da cat outta da bag"
about the camel, I'm sorry, the drag races to be
held at Speedworld at the 2010 International...
No more unsubstaniate rumors....You know what
I mean Dick.....

glen Brose - Perkinsville, AZ
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glen
03-10-2008, 06:39 PM
I'm glad that someone let "da cat outta da bag"
about the camel, I'm sorry, the drag races to be
held at Speedworld at the 2010 International...
No more unsubstaniate rumors....You know what
I mean Dick.....

glen Brose - Perkinsville, AZ
http://i57.photobucket.com/albums/g204/glen_05/Studebakersign.jpg

Avantidon
03-11-2008, 08:01 AM
Frank, if you think it is so easy, please feel free to step up to the plate and volunteer to set the drags up. Since you are with Green53 ask him how much I am involved in and then you will understand why I asked for help. Since you say it is a matter of a simple phone call then just make it. Maybe that call will make you realize it may not be that simple.

Avantidon
03-11-2008, 08:01 AM
Frank, if you think it is so easy, please feel free to step up to the plate and volunteer to set the drags up. Since you are with Green53 ask him how much I am involved in and then you will understand why I asked for help. Since you say it is a matter of a simple phone call then just make it. Maybe that call will make you realize it may not be that simple.

63larkr1
03-14-2008, 01:23 PM
You all can come to our race in May!

Studebakers at the Bean
Sunday May 18, 2008 at Brown County Dragway. BCD located at 4100 Gatesville Road, Bean Blossom, Indiana.

Along with the racing we will have a place to display your Studebaker. All racers and Studebakers or other orphan makes will have a designated area to park, so bring your Studebaker whether you are racing or not and we’ll show our cars.
All skill and performance levels are welcome and encouraged to attend. All cars that are racing will need to pass a tech inspection to race. Call for details on requirements to pass this inspection. A combination spectator & pit pass is $7.00. Sportsman racers are $25.00. Track opens at 9:00 AM practice at 11:00, racing at 2:00PM.
We hope to have a good turnout of Studebakers and other orphan makes at this event. Call or email me so we can make sure we have parking for everyone or any other questions. Richard Poe 812-988-2008 or Roserichpoe@att.net.
Disclaimer: Activities or participation in any activities at Brown County Dragway are not sponsored, endorsed, or in any way sanctioned by The Studebaker Drivers Club, Inc or the Indy Chapter SDC. Attending or participating in drag racing events is entirely at your own risk.

Richard

63larkr1
03-14-2008, 01:23 PM
You all can come to our race in May!

Studebakers at the Bean
Sunday May 18, 2008 at Brown County Dragway. BCD located at 4100 Gatesville Road, Bean Blossom, Indiana.

Along with the racing we will have a place to display your Studebaker. All racers and Studebakers or other orphan makes will have a designated area to park, so bring your Studebaker whether you are racing or not and we’ll show our cars.
All skill and performance levels are welcome and encouraged to attend. All cars that are racing will need to pass a tech inspection to race. Call for details on requirements to pass this inspection. A combination spectator & pit pass is $7.00. Sportsman racers are $25.00. Track opens at 9:00 AM practice at 11:00, racing at 2:00PM.
We hope to have a good turnout of Studebakers and other orphan makes at this event. Call or email me so we can make sure we have parking for everyone or any other questions. Richard Poe 812-988-2008 or Roserichpoe@att.net.
Disclaimer: Activities or participation in any activities at Brown County Dragway are not sponsored, endorsed, or in any way sanctioned by The Studebaker Drivers Club, Inc or the Indy Chapter SDC. Attending or participating in drag racing events is entirely at your own risk.

Richard

Avantidon
03-14-2008, 06:06 PM
Richard a nice post and you said all of the right things

Avantidon
03-14-2008, 06:06 PM
Richard a nice post and you said all of the right things