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cultural infidel
02-27-2008, 03:39 PM
hi... new guy here. doing some research for my uncle and myself. he owns a '60 lark VIII(i think)wagon and i have spotted a 59 or 60 wagon parked out in some yard... going down hill.. so we are trying to swoop that up as well.

his has been in storage since '76 and he is planning to start restoration in the next year or so.

so my question is how rare are the lark wagons? does anyone have the production numbers on these two years?

-sean

lstude
02-27-2008, 03:47 PM
Is it a 2 door or 4 door?

The 2 door wagons were made in both 59 and 60 but the 4 door wagon was introduced in 1960. Someone else will have to give you the production numbers.

Leonard Shepherd
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lstude
02-27-2008, 03:47 PM
Is it a 2 door or 4 door?

The 2 door wagons were made in both 59 and 60 but the 4 door wagon was introduced in 1960. Someone else will have to give you the production numbers.

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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cultural infidel
02-27-2008, 03:48 PM
my uncle's is a 4dr. the one i found im not sure about, saw it from the road. hope to check it out this weekend(get pics) and see if the guy is interested in parting with it.

cultural infidel
02-27-2008, 03:48 PM
my uncle's is a 4dr. the one i found im not sure about, saw it from the road. hope to check it out this weekend(get pics) and see if the guy is interested in parting with it.

57 Classic
02-27-2008, 04:03 PM
According to the stats I have they produced 5,711 Deluxe 4 door 60 v-8 wagons and 5,741 Regal 4 door wagons.
Brian Millette

57 Classic
02-27-2008, 04:03 PM
According to the stats I have they produced 5,711 Deluxe 4 door 60 v-8 wagons and 5,741 Regal 4 door wagons.
Brian Millette

StudeRich
02-27-2008, 04:12 PM
The '59-'60 Lark Wagons are not so rare as be much more valuable than Sedans, YET![:0]

Wagons are somewhat rare today however, as a high percentage of them were really USED UP and scrapped because they they were such good, handy workhorses to use as a light truck.

The 2dr. in the '59 was the only year that the 2Dr. was available in Regal trim, making it more rare and desirable than a "Deluxe" or a '60-'61 depending on your taste.

You can tell the trim level by checking the body tag located on the right side of the firewall (engine side) small plate with two screws holding it, it also tells you if the car originally had a 6 (Lark VI), or 8 (Lark VIII) Cylinder engine.

It will say the year: 59, then "S" for six or "V" for 8, then D for 2Dr. Wagon or "P" for 4dr. then a "4" for Deluxe or a "6" for Regal Trim, the number on the bottom is just the line sequence number of bodies of that exact type on the body line, NOT the final assembly line.

Regals have Padded Dash with knee pads and Deluxe horn Ring Std. (Opt. on Deluxe) Chrome Hd. Lt. Rims, Moulding around Grille, Carpeting, nicer door panels and seat material, two armrests, two inside sun visors.

1960 and 1961 2Dr. Wagons have the roof pillar removed between the rear seat window and the cargo area window, and have a diagonal stainless steel edge on the sliding rear seat window glass.



StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
02-27-2008, 04:12 PM
The '59-'60 Lark Wagons are not so rare as be much more valuable than Sedans, YET![:0]

Wagons are somewhat rare today however, as a high percentage of them were really USED UP and scrapped because they they were such good, handy workhorses to use as a light truck.

The 2dr. in the '59 was the only year that the 2Dr. was available in Regal trim, making it more rare and desirable than a "Deluxe" or a '60-'61 depending on your taste.

You can tell the trim level by checking the body tag located on the right side of the firewall (engine side) small plate with two screws holding it, it also tells you if the car originally had a 6 (Lark VI), or 8 (Lark VIII) Cylinder engine.

It will say the year: 59, then "S" for six or "V" for 8, then D for 2Dr. Wagon or "P" for 4dr. then a "4" for Deluxe or a "6" for Regal Trim, the number on the bottom is just the line sequence number of bodies of that exact type on the body line, NOT the final assembly line.

Regals have Padded Dash with knee pads and Deluxe horn Ring Std. (Opt. on Deluxe) Chrome Hd. Lt. Rims, Moulding around Grille, Carpeting, nicer door panels and seat material, two armrests, two inside sun visors.

1960 and 1961 2Dr. Wagons have the roof pillar removed between the rear seat window and the cargo area window, and have a diagonal stainless steel edge on the sliding rear seat window glass.



StudeRich
Studebakers Northwest
Ferndale, WA

Dick Steinkamp
02-27-2008, 06:04 PM
Keep in mind that low production numbers or "rare" really have little to nothing to do with the value of a Studebaker wagon. OTOH, wagons are "hot" right now...especially 2 door wagons.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
02-27-2008, 06:04 PM
Keep in mind that low production numbers or "rare" really have little to nothing to do with the value of a Studebaker wagon. OTOH, wagons are "hot" right now...especially 2 door wagons.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

cultural infidel
02-27-2008, 11:57 PM
57 classic - so should i assume that they produced roughly 11K wagons over the two year spread?

i hope we can get this other one... and maybe restore/rod them out together.

thanks for all the responses fellas. im a dodge guy who is lost in all of this. i just know that i've always wanted a studey wagon.

cultural infidel
02-27-2008, 11:57 PM
57 classic - so should i assume that they produced roughly 11K wagons over the two year spread?

i hope we can get this other one... and maybe restore/rod them out together.

thanks for all the responses fellas. im a dodge guy who is lost in all of this. i just know that i've always wanted a studey wagon.

StudeRich
02-28-2008, 01:41 AM
No, actually lstude and I noted that 4 Dr. Wagons were not started until 1960, so that makes ONE YEAR for 11,452 V-8 4 Dr. Wagons, not counting the 6 Cyl. 4Dr. Wagons. The 1959's were all 2 Dr's.

And; if you read Dick's post, he notes that Quantity does not matter.

StudeRich -Studebakers Northwest Ferndale, WA


quote:Originally posted by cultural infidel

57 classic - so should i assume that they produced roughly 11K wagons over the two year spread?

StudeRich
02-28-2008, 01:41 AM
No, actually lstude and I noted that 4 Dr. Wagons were not started until 1960, so that makes ONE YEAR for 11,452 V-8 4 Dr. Wagons, not counting the 6 Cyl. 4Dr. Wagons. The 1959's were all 2 Dr's.

And; if you read Dick's post, he notes that Quantity does not matter.

StudeRich -Studebakers Northwest Ferndale, WA


quote:Originally posted by cultural infidel

57 classic - so should i assume that they produced roughly 11K wagons over the two year spread?

cultural infidel
02-28-2008, 01:59 AM
i understand that quantity does not matter. it was merely curiosity.

i am currently doing searches getting a better idea of how i want to do it up, if i can get it.

cultural infidel
02-28-2008, 01:59 AM
i understand that quantity does not matter. it was merely curiosity.

i am currently doing searches getting a better idea of how i want to do it up, if i can get it.

Mike Van Veghten
02-28-2008, 08:49 AM
I've got both a 59 and a 60 2dr wagon.
The 59 is my daily driver and the "low miles" 60 is slowly becomming a hot rod.

Mike

Mike Van Veghten
02-28-2008, 08:49 AM
I've got both a 59 and a 60 2dr wagon.
The 59 is my daily driver and the "low miles" 60 is slowly becomming a hot rod.

Mike

cultural infidel
02-28-2008, 09:41 AM
got pics?

cultural infidel
02-28-2008, 09:41 AM
got pics?

studegary
02-28-2008, 02:47 PM
1959 two door wagon - 26,709
1960 two door wagon - 5231
1960 four door wagon - 18,797

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
02-28-2008, 02:47 PM
1959 two door wagon - 26,709
1960 two door wagon - 5231
1960 four door wagon - 18,797

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

cultural infidel
02-29-2008, 09:44 AM
thanks gary.

cultural infidel
02-29-2008, 09:44 AM
thanks gary.

cultural infidel
03-05-2008, 09:27 AM
well i hope to find out about this wagon by the end of next week. fingers crossed

cultural infidel
03-05-2008, 09:27 AM
well i hope to find out about this wagon by the end of next week. fingers crossed

oldcarfart
03-06-2008, 08:27 PM
FYI I have a "bastardized" (454/TH400/9" w/ 3:00 posi/ 4 wheel disc, etc, etc.)1959 2 door wagon heading to ebay soon if you are looking to buy...............

oldcarfart
03-06-2008, 08:27 PM
FYI I have a "bastardized" (454/TH400/9" w/ 3:00 posi/ 4 wheel disc, etc, etc.)1959 2 door wagon heading to ebay soon if you are looking to buy...............

cultural infidel
03-07-2008, 01:21 AM
got pictures? why do you call it bastardized?

cultural infidel
03-07-2008, 01:21 AM
got pictures? why do you call it bastardized?

oldcarfart
03-08-2008, 12:14 PM
why do I call it bastardized? YOU must be new here, welcome to the NG <grin> pics on Jeff Rice's webpage under pic's someplace, this is a fast and extremely overpowered vehicle so if you are a flathead six driver this may wrinkle you nutsac and relocate it behind your belly-button upon application of your foot to the throttle, it also causes the restoration crowd to cringe, use nasty verbage and cast voodoo type spells upon your fuel consumption rates <snicker>

oldcarfart
03-08-2008, 12:14 PM
why do I call it bastardized? YOU must be new here, welcome to the NG <grin> pics on Jeff Rice's webpage under pic's someplace, this is a fast and extremely overpowered vehicle so if you are a flathead six driver this may wrinkle you nutsac and relocate it behind your belly-button upon application of your foot to the throttle, it also causes the restoration crowd to cringe, use nasty verbage and cast voodoo type spells upon your fuel consumption rates <snicker>