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lstude
02-27-2008, 01:09 PM
http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/27/breaking-boyd-coddington-dies-at-age-63/

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Alan
02-27-2008, 01:15 PM
Kick in the butt when someone younger than you dies.

Alan
02-27-2008, 01:15 PM
Kick in the butt when someone younger than you dies.

jnewkirk77
02-27-2008, 01:21 PM
Wow. That's a shocker. Sorry to hear about that; he cooked up some pretty cool rods over the years, and he will be missed.

Jacob Newkirk - Owensboro, KY

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jnewkirk77
02-27-2008, 01:21 PM
Wow. That's a shocker. Sorry to hear about that; he cooked up some pretty cool rods over the years, and he will be missed.

Jacob Newkirk - Owensboro, KY

KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL! Drive a Studebaker!

Chris Pile
02-27-2008, 02:47 PM
Did he ever do a Stude?

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Chris Pile
02-27-2008, 02:47 PM
Did he ever do a Stude?

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JDP
02-27-2008, 02:54 PM
I don't think so, but he did turn this one down:


http://auto.howstuffworks.com/frankenstude-custom-car.htm

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JDP
02-27-2008, 02:54 PM
I don't think so, but he did turn this one down:


http://auto.howstuffworks.com/frankenstude-custom-car.htm

JDP/Maryland
63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
spent to date $54664,75
64 R2 GT (Sid)
spent to date $62,839.60
63 Lark 2 door
57 wagon
39 Coupe express

Orestudeguy
02-27-2008, 03:10 PM
Oh Wow,
Sorry to hear that..
As stated before, he did do some pretty neat rods..
And he will be missed..

George
Grants Pass, Oregon
65 Commander 2door
64 Wagonaire's (1 parts car, 1 Canadian fixed roof disc brake car, the other sliding roof South Bend car.)
63 Champ
63 GT Hawk
51 Champion Starlight Coupe
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Orestudeguy
02-27-2008, 03:10 PM
Oh Wow,
Sorry to hear that..
As stated before, he did do some pretty neat rods..
And he will be missed..

George
Grants Pass, Oregon
65 Commander 2door
64 Wagonaire's (1 parts car, 1 Canadian fixed roof disc brake car, the other sliding roof South Bend car.)
63 Champ
63 GT Hawk
51 Champion Starlight Coupe
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DEEPNHOCK
02-27-2008, 03:20 PM
He's done a C/K and a Ccab for customers..
You'd see them in the background during that TV show he did, and sometimes in magazine articles.
Jeff[8D]



quote:Originally posted by Chris Pile

Did he ever do a Stude?

DEEPNHOCK
02-27-2008, 03:20 PM
He's done a C/K and a Ccab for customers..
You'd see them in the background during that TV show he did, and sometimes in magazine articles.
Jeff[8D]



quote:Originally posted by Chris Pile

Did he ever do a Stude?

wally
02-27-2008, 04:32 PM
Does show that no matter who you are or what you have accomplished--life can be too darn short. Though his personal style was a bit polarizing and controversial, I think everyone can agree that Coddington was very gifted. He will not be forgotten.

"You Can't Have Everything--Where Would You Put It?" ---comedian Steven Wright

wally
02-27-2008, 04:32 PM
Does show that no matter who you are or what you have accomplished--life can be too darn short. Though his personal style was a bit polarizing and controversial, I think everyone can agree that Coddington was very gifted. He will not be forgotten.

"You Can't Have Everything--Where Would You Put It?" ---comedian Steven Wright

sals54
02-27-2008, 05:22 PM
Ditto, Wally
Some have said that Boyd was a major reason for the higher costs of hotrodding, but I've always thought that he was among the few who brought our hobby to the forefront of cultural icon status. He and Brizio and others actually were able to break into Pebble Beach and Monterey with the high quality of the cars they built. And with the higher cost and quality of the cars they build, ours go up in value.

sals54
02-27-2008, 05:22 PM
Ditto, Wally
Some have said that Boyd was a major reason for the higher costs of hotrodding, but I've always thought that he was among the few who brought our hobby to the forefront of cultural icon status. He and Brizio and others actually were able to break into Pebble Beach and Monterey with the high quality of the cars they built. And with the higher cost and quality of the cars they build, ours go up in value.

Guido
02-27-2008, 05:36 PM
I only watched the show a few times, but seem to recall that his ex-wife still worked there. That would be enough to put most men in their grave.

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Guido
02-27-2008, 05:36 PM
I only watched the show a few times, but seem to recall that his ex-wife still worked there. That would be enough to put most men in their grave.

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Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Gary1953
02-27-2008, 05:41 PM
I am very sorry to hear this news. I enjoyed watching the show. A 1953 Studebaker custom he and Foose did was on eBay a few years ago.

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Gary1953
02-27-2008, 05:41 PM
I am very sorry to hear this news. I enjoyed watching the show. A 1953 Studebaker custom he and Foose did was on eBay a few years ago.

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bams50
02-27-2008, 06:10 PM
Boyd had two separate businesses- the custom wheel shop and the rod shop. His first wife stayed in the business and was office manager. He sold off the wheel business a couple years back and his ex moved with it. They appeared to remain friends and care about each other; even the ex and second wife seemed to get along. He and Chip Foose did split, and a number of Boyd's guys left to go with Chip. Boyd did have hard feelings over this, but hopefully he was businessman enough that he didn't let it eat him up...

Some of his stuff was not to my taste, but the build quality seemed excellent. Boyd did something very few have ever done- created a totally new market to fit what he wanted to sell. That is, he created a group of buyers who were hands-off rich guys that didn't usually care what they were buying! Many just wanted a "hot rod" from Boyd's shop, and would simply hire him to build whatever he felt like, and charge whatever he wanted; then the buyer would throw a big unveiling party for his friends, take it around the block, and send it back with Boyd to be sold at auction... and some did that a few times! Sweet gig...[8D]

Like him or hate him, or his work, no question he was a success at what he did. Rest in Peace, Mr. Coddington.

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

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bams50
02-27-2008, 06:10 PM
Boyd had two separate businesses- the custom wheel shop and the rod shop. His first wife stayed in the business and was office manager. He sold off the wheel business a couple years back and his ex moved with it. They appeared to remain friends and care about each other; even the ex and second wife seemed to get along. He and Chip Foose did split, and a number of Boyd's guys left to go with Chip. Boyd did have hard feelings over this, but hopefully he was businessman enough that he didn't let it eat him up...

Some of his stuff was not to my taste, but the build quality seemed excellent. Boyd did something very few have ever done- created a totally new market to fit what he wanted to sell. That is, he created a group of buyers who were hands-off rich guys that didn't usually care what they were buying! Many just wanted a "hot rod" from Boyd's shop, and would simply hire him to build whatever he felt like, and charge whatever he wanted; then the buyer would throw a big unveiling party for his friends, take it around the block, and send it back with Boyd to be sold at auction... and some did that a few times! Sweet gig...[8D]

Like him or hate him, or his work, no question he was a success at what he did. Rest in Peace, Mr. Coddington.

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

"With your Lark you're on your own, free as a bird, alive as a Lark. You've suddenly discovered that parking is a pleasure, traffic is a breeze, turning's no trick at all, and happiness is a thing called Larking!"

Sonny
02-27-2008, 06:51 PM
Not much more here...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/02/27/state/n103701S80.DTL

Ya just never know.... Dad always said, "All you can do is always be prepared."

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Sonny
02-27-2008, 06:51 PM
Not much more here...

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/02/27/state/n103701S80.DTL

Ya just never know.... Dad always said, "All you can do is always be prepared."

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DEEPNHOCK
02-27-2008, 07:37 PM
Here's a little more info....
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/02/27/state/n103701S80.DTL
(copy)
(02-27) 11:43 PST Los Angeles (AP) --
Car-building legend Boyd Coddington, whose testosterone-injected cable TV reality show "American Hot Rod" introduced the nation to the West Coast hot rod guru, has died. He was 63.
Coddington died at Presbyterian Intercommunity Hospital in suburban Whittier at 6:20 a.m. Wednesday. His La Habra office spokeswoman Amanda Curry wouldn't disclose the cause of death.
Coddington, who started building cars when he was 13 and once operated a gas station in Utah, set a standard for his workmanship and creativity, with his popular "Cadzilla" creation considered a design masterpiece. The customized car based on a 1950s Cadillac was built for rocker Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top.
"That was a groundbreaking car. Very cool," said Dick Messer, executive director of the Petersen Automotive Museum in Los Angeles.
"This was your modern era George Barris," Messer said. "He did things to hot rods and customs that weren't being done by anyone else. But the main thing is he designed cars that were drivable."
Coddington was a machinist by trade, working at Disneyland during the day and tinkering with cars in his home garage at night and on weekends. His rolling creations captured the imagination of car-crazy Southern Californians and soon he was building custom cars and making money.
Most often, he customized 1932 Ford "little deuce coupes."
"It was one of those things when a hobby turned into business," Messer said, noting Coddington was also "one of the first guys to get into the custom wheel business."
Wheels by Boyd were fetching $2,000 apiece, which was unheard of two decades ago.
Coddington also surrounded himself with talent. Alumni from his shop include Jesse James and Chip Foose, who went on to open their own shops and star in reality TV shows.


Coddington twice won the Daimler-Chrysler Design Excellence Award and he was inducted into the Grand National Roadster Show Hall of Fame, the National Rod & Custom Museum Hall of Fame and the Route 66 Wall of Fame.
Always dressed in a Hawaiian shirt, Coddington said he loved his "American Hot Rod" Discovery Channel show, which featured ground-up construction of $500,000 hot rods.
"The viewers are ... people who lived in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s and loved these cars. Now, they have money," Coddington told The Associated Press in a 2004 interview.

http://www.boydcoddington.com/Store/Default.aspx


quote:Originally posted by lstude


http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/27/breaking-boyd-coddington-dies-at-age-63/
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DEEPNHOCK
02-27-2008, 07:37 PM
Here's a little more info....
http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2008/02/27/state/n103701S80.DTL
(copy)
(02-27) 11:43 PST Los Angeles (AP) --
Car-building legend Boyd Coddington, whose testosterone-injected cable TV reality show "American Hot Rod" introduced the nation to the West Coast hot rod guru, has died. He was 63.
Coddington died at Presbyterian Intercommunity Hospital in suburban Whittier at 6:20 a.m. Wednesday. His La Habra office spokeswoman Amanda Curry wouldn't disclose the cause of death.
Coddington, who started building cars when he was 13 and once operated a gas station in Utah, set a standard for his workmanship and creativity, with his popular "Cadzilla" creation considered a design masterpiece. The customized car based on a 1950s Cadillac was built for rocker Billy Gibbons of ZZ Top.
"That was a groundbreaking car. Very cool," said Dick Messer, executive director of the Petersen Automotive Museum in Los Angeles.
"This was your modern era George Barris," Messer said. "He did things to hot rods and customs that weren't being done by anyone else. But the main thing is he designed cars that were drivable."
Coddington was a machinist by trade, working at Disneyland during the day and tinkering with cars in his home garage at night and on weekends. His rolling creations captured the imagination of car-crazy Southern Californians and soon he was building custom cars and making money.
Most often, he customized 1932 Ford "little deuce coupes."
"It was one of those things when a hobby turned into business," Messer said, noting Coddington was also "one of the first guys to get into the custom wheel business."
Wheels by Boyd were fetching $2,000 apiece, which was unheard of two decades ago.
Coddington also surrounded himself with talent. Alumni from his shop include Jesse James and Chip Foose, who went on to open their own shops and star in reality TV shows.


Coddington twice won the Daimler-Chrysler Design Excellence Award and he was inducted into the Grand National Roadster Show Hall of Fame, the National Rod & Custom Museum Hall of Fame and the Route 66 Wall of Fame.
Always dressed in a Hawaiian shirt, Coddington said he loved his "American Hot Rod" Discovery Channel show, which featured ground-up construction of $500,000 hot rods.
"The viewers are ... people who lived in the 1950s, 1960s and 1970s and loved these cars. Now, they have money," Coddington told The Associated Press in a 2004 interview.

http://www.boydcoddington.com/Store/Default.aspx


quote:Originally posted by lstude


http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/27/breaking-boyd-coddington-dies-at-age-63/
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61hawk
02-27-2008, 09:05 PM
I read something earlier that said he was having problems with a perforated ulcer. Purely rumor, but from watching the television show I think the guy probably lived on Tums and Rolaids.

61hawk
02-27-2008, 09:05 PM
I read something earlier that said he was having problems with a perforated ulcer. Purely rumor, but from watching the television show I think the guy probably lived on Tums and Rolaids.

4961Studebaker
02-27-2008, 09:10 PM
What some of you may not know, I have an acquaintance who's shop was actually building a c-cab for Boyd in Illinois. Reason being they were building one for him was they had made one the previous year to a top notch award winner, Boyd's would have been Black w/red interior when all said and done. I just found out the news of Boyds passing today, and have sent out some emails as to the fate of the truck.

4961Studebaker
02-27-2008, 09:10 PM
What some of you may not know, I have an acquaintance who's shop was actually building a c-cab for Boyd in Illinois. Reason being they were building one for him was they had made one the previous year to a top notch award winner, Boyd's would have been Black w/red interior when all said and done. I just found out the news of Boyds passing today, and have sent out some emails as to the fate of the truck.

jnewkirk77
02-28-2008, 04:53 AM
Don't know if any of you remember the unearthing of the '57 Plymouth Belvedere in Tulsa last summer, but Boyd was going to be the one to start the car. Unfortunately, water penetrated the vault under the county courthouse lawn and reduced "Miss Belvedere" to little more than a pile of rust. I watched the whole thing online and he really didn't look to be in the best of health at that point.

Regardless, the man stood head and shoulders above many of today's customizers. Whether you liked what he did or not, he turned out a great many top-notch-quality customs. I have a feeling he'll still be talked about by our kids and grandkids years from now.

Jacob Newkirk - Owensboro, KY

KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL! Drive a Studebaker!

jnewkirk77
02-28-2008, 04:53 AM
Don't know if any of you remember the unearthing of the '57 Plymouth Belvedere in Tulsa last summer, but Boyd was going to be the one to start the car. Unfortunately, water penetrated the vault under the county courthouse lawn and reduced "Miss Belvedere" to little more than a pile of rust. I watched the whole thing online and he really didn't look to be in the best of health at that point.

Regardless, the man stood head and shoulders above many of today's customizers. Whether you liked what he did or not, he turned out a great many top-notch-quality customs. I have a feeling he'll still be talked about by our kids and grandkids years from now.

Jacob Newkirk - Owensboro, KY

KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL! Drive a Studebaker!

Allan Songer
02-28-2008, 07:18 AM
My friend Miguel worked with Boyd at Disneyland for about ten years. He loved the guy--even when he became sort of full of himself at the height of his fame and wealth. I only met him once and that was just after his wheel company went BK and his world was coming apart at the seems and he was REALLY REALLY cool and as nice as can be. Maybe it was because I was there with his old work buddy, but in any case I have nothing but nice things to say about him.

As far as all those '32 Fords and other hot rods he built-- well, they're certainly not MY cup of meat, but they were VERY nicely done and every single one of them was a REAL car that you could hop into and drive cross country in a heartbeat.

Allan Songer
02-28-2008, 07:18 AM
My friend Miguel worked with Boyd at Disneyland for about ten years. He loved the guy--even when he became sort of full of himself at the height of his fame and wealth. I only met him once and that was just after his wheel company went BK and his world was coming apart at the seems and he was REALLY REALLY cool and as nice as can be. Maybe it was because I was there with his old work buddy, but in any case I have nothing but nice things to say about him.

As far as all those '32 Fords and other hot rods he built-- well, they're certainly not MY cup of meat, but they were VERY nicely done and every single one of them was a REAL car that you could hop into and drive cross country in a heartbeat.

8E45E
02-28-2008, 09:28 AM
quote:Originally posted by jnewkirk77

Don't know if any of you remember the unearthing of the '57 Plymouth Belvedere in Tulsa last summer, but Boyd was going to be the one to start the car. Unfortunately, water penetrated the vault under the county courthouse lawn and reduced "Miss Belvedere" to little more than a pile of rust. I watched the whole thing online and he really didn't look to be in the best of health at that point.



I had read that he picked up a major illness after that incident! One can imagine all the viruses and other poisons in what was really 'sewer water'.

Craig

8E45E
02-28-2008, 09:28 AM
quote:Originally posted by jnewkirk77

Don't know if any of you remember the unearthing of the '57 Plymouth Belvedere in Tulsa last summer, but Boyd was going to be the one to start the car. Unfortunately, water penetrated the vault under the county courthouse lawn and reduced "Miss Belvedere" to little more than a pile of rust. I watched the whole thing online and he really didn't look to be in the best of health at that point.



I had read that he picked up a major illness after that incident! One can imagine all the viruses and other poisons in what was really 'sewer water'.

Craig

BobPalma
02-28-2008, 09:45 AM
quote:Originally posted by 8E45E

I had read that he picked up a major illness after that incident! One can imagine all the viruses and other poisons in what was really 'sewer water'.

Craig


[}:)] Hmmm...an interesting angle, Craig; 'hadn't thought of that. 'Wonder if they'll release a formal autopsy? ;) [8D] BP

BobPalma
02-28-2008, 09:45 AM
quote:Originally posted by 8E45E

I had read that he picked up a major illness after that incident! One can imagine all the viruses and other poisons in what was really 'sewer water'.

Craig


[}:)] Hmmm...an interesting angle, Craig; 'hadn't thought of that. 'Wonder if they'll release a formal autopsy? ;) [8D] BP

jnewkirk77
02-28-2008, 01:00 PM
The whole thing was really a mess. No one has ever said what type of pollutants were in that foul water (and I've been told it was indeed rather odiferous), but I can just about guarantee there was leaded gasoline from the disintegrated gas tank, to name one. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he did indeed pick up some sort of illness from that.

Jacob Newkirk - Owensboro, KY

KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL! Drive a Studebaker!

jnewkirk77
02-28-2008, 01:00 PM
The whole thing was really a mess. No one has ever said what type of pollutants were in that foul water (and I've been told it was indeed rather odiferous), but I can just about guarantee there was leaded gasoline from the disintegrated gas tank, to name one. I wouldn't be at all surprised if he did indeed pick up some sort of illness from that.

Jacob Newkirk - Owensboro, KY

KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL! Drive a Studebaker!

gordr
02-28-2008, 02:46 PM
Jacob, I expect the people who put that car in the vault would have had the sense to drain the gas tank. It's been known a LONG time that gasoline doesn't store very well.

Even so, a brief exposure to leaded gas or it's fumes would be unlikely to cause a sudden fatal illness.

But there are bugs, and molds, and fungi that thrive on lubricants, antifreeze, brake fluid, and upholstery fabrics. I believe the risk of infection by such would be far greater than the risk of exposure leaded gas, which most of us gearheads have had frequent exposure to, and I'm prefectly al rihgt!

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

gordr
02-28-2008, 02:46 PM
Jacob, I expect the people who put that car in the vault would have had the sense to drain the gas tank. It's been known a LONG time that gasoline doesn't store very well.

Even so, a brief exposure to leaded gas or it's fumes would be unlikely to cause a sudden fatal illness.

But there are bugs, and molds, and fungi that thrive on lubricants, antifreeze, brake fluid, and upholstery fabrics. I believe the risk of infection by such would be far greater than the risk of exposure leaded gas, which most of us gearheads have had frequent exposure to, and I'm prefectly al rihgt!

Gord Richmond, within Weasel range of the Alberta Badlands

JBOYLE
02-28-2008, 02:56 PM
I hate to rain on everyone's "House, M.D." (for you younger guys) and "Quincey, M.E." (for you older guys) moments...:D

but

Did Coddington even get into the car?

Ther original obit said he's had intestinal surgery...another story said he had liver failure.

Not quite the same thing as the New York Post might theorize...."Christine Calims Another Victim!".

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

JBOYLE
02-28-2008, 02:56 PM
I hate to rain on everyone's "House, M.D." (for you younger guys) and "Quincey, M.E." (for you older guys) moments...:D

but

Did Coddington even get into the car?

Ther original obit said he's had intestinal surgery...another story said he had liver failure.

Not quite the same thing as the New York Post might theorize...."Christine Calims Another Victim!".

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

studeski
02-28-2008, 03:07 PM
I agree with Gord. Besides it was surface water that leaked in through the top not sewer water. Yes, there was gas stored in trunk. Where's the other 30 or more other people that touched the car? It ain't like digging up corpses! That smell never goes away!!


Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
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Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/dakota01.jpg[/img=left]
"One after another they volunteered how in their families and in their
communities they were expected to be responsible for their behavior, how
honesty was assumed to be the rule, not the exception. They also talked
matter-of-factly about the sense of duty to their country, a sentiment not
much in fashion anymore."

studeski
02-28-2008, 03:07 PM
I agree with Gord. Besides it was surface water that leaked in through the top not sewer water. Yes, there was gas stored in trunk. Where's the other 30 or more other people that touched the car? It ain't like digging up corpses! That smell never goes away!!


Claude Chmielewski
Studeski
http://www.studeski.com
Fillmore, Wisconsin
47 M-16 Truck
62 GT Hawk
63 Lark
64 Commander Wagonaire
50 Champion Regal (parts car)
[img=left]http://www.studeski.com/62hawk/dakota01.jpg[/img=left]
"One after another they volunteered how in their families and in their
communities they were expected to be responsible for their behavior, how
honesty was assumed to be the rule, not the exception. They also talked
matter-of-factly about the sense of duty to their country, a sentiment not
much in fashion anymore."

jnewkirk77
02-28-2008, 06:05 PM
I went to KOTV.com (one of the Tulsa TV stations) after my previous post, and they show video of the entire unearthing process. The crew that drained the water out of the vault treated the water as if it were hazardous waste. They even took samples, but I've been unable to determine what, if any, pollutants they found.

It is true that a good many people have been in contact with that car since it came out of the ground. I haven't heard of any of them getting sick, either. It was just an unscientific guess on my part. But I stand by my earlier statement that Boyd did not look exactly hale and hearty that day.

Gord, I understood the car to have a full tank of gas in addition to the can buried with it. They wanted to be sure it had enough in it! From what I've been able to gather, the Tulsarama folks were not very scientifically oriented. They did hire some folks who were, but evidently they didn't think about what happens to old gas. The cans of motor oil they buried (which were stored inside glass containers) DID survive, and were supposed to be analyzed, but I've not been able to find out what happened to that, either.

Jacob Newkirk - Owensboro, KY

KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL! Drive a Studebaker!

jnewkirk77
02-28-2008, 06:05 PM
I went to KOTV.com (one of the Tulsa TV stations) after my previous post, and they show video of the entire unearthing process. The crew that drained the water out of the vault treated the water as if it were hazardous waste. They even took samples, but I've been unable to determine what, if any, pollutants they found.

It is true that a good many people have been in contact with that car since it came out of the ground. I haven't heard of any of them getting sick, either. It was just an unscientific guess on my part. But I stand by my earlier statement that Boyd did not look exactly hale and hearty that day.

Gord, I understood the car to have a full tank of gas in addition to the can buried with it. They wanted to be sure it had enough in it! From what I've been able to gather, the Tulsarama folks were not very scientifically oriented. They did hire some folks who were, but evidently they didn't think about what happens to old gas. The cans of motor oil they buried (which were stored inside glass containers) DID survive, and were supposed to be analyzed, but I've not been able to find out what happened to that, either.

Jacob Newkirk - Owensboro, KY

KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL! Drive a Studebaker!

DEEPNHOCK
03-03-2008, 02:20 PM
Even sadder (for me anyways) was to hear that Lil' John Buterra died.
He was truly one of my fabricationg hero's...bar none.
Major bummer, but he left a lot for us to look at and enjoy.
Jeff[8D]
http://www.nhra.com/content/news/27192.htm




quote:Originally posted by lstude


http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/27/breaking-boyd-coddington-dies-at-age-63/

DEEPNHOCK
03-03-2008, 02:20 PM
Even sadder (for me anyways) was to hear that Lil' John Buterra died.
He was truly one of my fabricationg hero's...bar none.
Major bummer, but he left a lot for us to look at and enjoy.
Jeff[8D]
http://www.nhra.com/content/news/27192.htm




quote:Originally posted by lstude


http://www.autoblog.com/2008/02/27/breaking-boyd-coddington-dies-at-age-63/

Pat Dilling
03-03-2008, 04:04 PM
Sad events for the automotive hobby and industry for sure. It is my understanding that Boyd had some liver problems and was diabetic as well. He had been ill since Christmas time.

One great quote I heard attributed to Little John was his reply to the question of how he made a billet aluuminum mirror: "You just start with a block of aluminum and take away everything that doesn't look like a mirror."

Both are very talented individuals who left indelible marks on the hot rodding world.

Pat

Pat Dilling
03-03-2008, 04:04 PM
Sad events for the automotive hobby and industry for sure. It is my understanding that Boyd had some liver problems and was diabetic as well. He had been ill since Christmas time.

One great quote I heard attributed to Little John was his reply to the question of how he made a billet aluuminum mirror: "You just start with a block of aluminum and take away everything that doesn't look like a mirror."

Both are very talented individuals who left indelible marks on the hot rodding world.

Pat

bondobilly
03-03-2008, 05:19 PM
quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

[navy][b]Even sadder (for me anyways) was to hear that Lil' John Buterra died.




John Buterra's 1970's bult Ford now lives near me. The brother of the owner was here this morning. Freddy who's brother who ownes the Buterra car is coming over here Thursday or Friday to do the brakes on my Hawk.

I sat here for about an hour listening to the story about how the entire suspension system shows no signs of being attached to the car.

Very small world

bondobilly
03-03-2008, 05:19 PM
quote:Originally posted by DEEPNHOCK

[navy][b]Even sadder (for me anyways) was to hear that Lil' John Buterra died.




John Buterra's 1970's bult Ford now lives near me. The brother of the owner was here this morning. Freddy who's brother who ownes the Buterra car is coming over here Thursday or Friday to do the brakes on my Hawk.

I sat here for about an hour listening to the story about how the entire suspension system shows no signs of being attached to the car.

Very small world