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NCDave51
09-15-2018, 03:34 PM
Having firmly caught the Studebaker bug with my ‘51 Champion, I’m currently chasing two completely different cars: a local 52 Starlight Commander but also a distant 65 2-door Daytona or Cruiser.

First question I have that hasn’t been answered by this Forum nor the typical Google search: were the 2-door ‘65 models always Daytonas or were there 2-door Cruisers? It’s currently badged as a Daytona.

Second is with the VIN on the car I’m chasing . As a Canadian vehicle, the first digit is a “C”, but the second is a “1” (letter I), and the limited info out there says this should be a Cruiser, where Daytonas apparently had “5” in the second place.

Can experienced folks here enlighten me? What is this 2-door Studebaker VIN trying to tell me?

(iI don’t have the body tag info at hand. Sorry).

abkco
09-15-2018, 04:04 PM
There were not 2 door cruisers offered in 1965. Is it a hardtop?

studefan
09-15-2018, 04:04 PM
You cannot determine any body styles by the VIN (or serial number). Look on the plate on the engine side of the firewall for that information. Cruisers were only 4 doors.

2R5
09-15-2018, 04:08 PM
There were not 2 door cruisers offered in 1965. Is it a hardtop?

therecwere no hardtops in ‘65...... it’s mostlikely a Daytona

NCDave51
09-15-2018, 04:59 PM
Many thanks to all - i learned a great deal from this.

I’m awaiting the body tag info from the seller and will advise further.

studegary
09-15-2018, 07:34 PM
Having firmly caught the Studebaker bug with my ‘51 Champion, I’m currently chasing two completely different cars: a local 52 Starlight Commander but also a distant 65 2-door Daytona or Cruiser.

First question I have that hasn’t been answered by this Forum nor the typical Google search: were the 2-door ‘65 models always Daytonas or were there 2-door Cruisers? It’s currently badged as a Daytona.

Second is with the VIN on the car I’m chasing . As a Canadian vehicle, the first digit is a “C”, but the second is a “1” (letter I), and the limited info out there says this should be a Cruiser, where Daytonas apparently had “5” in the second place.

Can experienced folks here enlighten me? What is this 2-door Studebaker VIN trying to tell me?

(iI don’t have the body tag info at hand. Sorry).

No two door Cruisers.
In 1965 there were two door Commanders and Daytona Sports Sedans (no Cruisers).
The C indicates Canadian production.
The 1 or 5 is not related to the model, but rather is related to the engine - 1 for six cylinder and 5 for V8.
The VIN is telling you that it is a six cylinder built in Hamilton (Canada).

StudeRich
09-15-2018, 08:16 PM
Being that it is supposed to be a 1965, the only 6 Cyl. available was the GM of Canada (McKinnon Motors) 194 c.i.d.

If it were a '66, there was an option for either the "194" or the "230" 6 Cyl.

ole 64
09-15-2018, 08:25 PM
Dave, PM sent.

NCDave51
09-16-2018, 09:50 AM
Many thanks to all - i learned a great deal from this.

I’m awaiting the body tag info from the seller and will advise further.

Here is the body tag area for the 2-door '65 I'm interested in. The smaller one clipped (12071) is likely the sequential body number....but what in the Canadian 1965 models would have this "S-F4" main tag. Seems awfully brief after the longer strings like 64V.......

Any advice would be appreciated. And sorry if the pic displays upsidedown.

https://www.supermotors.net/getfile/1139995/fullsize/body-tag-65-2door.jpg

NCDave51
09-16-2018, 09:56 AM
May have just unlocked my own mystery.....

http://classiccardatabase.com/specs.php?series=8549&year=1965&model=96

This is likely a rebadged 1965 Commander 6 two-door Sedan - the VIN starts with C11xxxx and the model is an F4....not a Daytona at all.

studegary
09-16-2018, 08:21 PM
May have just unlocked my own mystery.....

http://classiccardatabase.com/specs.php?series=8549&year=1965&model=96

This is likely a rebadged 1965 Commander 6 two-door Sedan - the VIN starts with C11xxxx and the model is an F4....not a Daytona at all.

Yes, a 1965 SF4 is a six cylinder Commander two door sedan.

8E45E
09-16-2018, 08:32 PM
It also appears to be a very late one, looking at the body number.

Craig

Jerry Forrester
09-17-2018, 05:02 AM
May have just unlocked my own mystery.....

http://classiccardatabase.com/specs.php?series=8549&year=1965&model=96

This is likely a rebadged 1965 Commander 6 two-door Sedan - the VIN starts with C11xxxx and the model is an F4....not a Daytona at all.

Since that data base says it has ball joint front suspension, doesnn't that makes all their data suspect.
Sortta like when someone lies on the witness stand, the judge will tell the jury they can disregard all of his testimony. Or is that just on TV?

studegary
09-17-2018, 07:47 PM
Since that data base says it has ball joint front suspension, doesnn't that makes all their data suspect.
Sortta like when someone lies on the witness stand, the judge will tell the jury they can disregard all of his testimony. Or is that just on TV?

That is a major one. It also says that two tone colors were available (perhaps special order fleet models, but it doesn't qualify it that way).