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t walgamuth
08-19-2018, 05:53 AM
Pickup? Looks like it shold fit, if so surely someone has done it?

junior
08-19-2018, 06:37 AM
I'm positive it has been done and there was a photo at one time on this forum. As I recall it was unfinished in grey primer, but that was a few years back. Looked okay to me. Cheers, junior

JRoberts
08-19-2018, 07:47 AM
I would love to see something like that just to see what it looked like. It seems like putting that low sleek front end on a boxy Champ pickup (or a '50-'60 Lark) just wouldn't match up very well. I would love to be wrong, but only seeing something would prove things one way or another.

TWChamp
08-19-2018, 08:05 AM
I would love to see something like that just to see what it looked like. It seems like putting that low sleek front end on a boxy Champ pickup (or a '50-'60 Lark) just wouldn't match up very well. I would love to be wrong, but only seeing something would prove things one way or another.
Exactly my thoughts about it. I hope someone has a picture to post, even if it has to be done in Photoshop.

brngarage
08-19-2018, 09:28 AM
Is this the one? It's a '55 front clip. 74924 SDC Zone Meet in Henderson, Nevada October 2015.

Milaca
08-19-2018, 10:15 AM
I think a 1958 sedan front would look more appropriate with the boxy wide bed.

studegary
08-19-2018, 10:18 AM
I think a 1958 sedan front would look more appropriate with the boxy wide bed.

I would prefer a 1956 or 1957 sedan front clip to a 1958. Nothing will help that box mismatch other than narrowing the box.

t walgamuth
08-19-2018, 10:22 AM
Is this the one? It's a '55 front clip. 74924 SDC Zone Meet in Henderson, Nevada October 2015.

That is pretty much it!

Thanks!

I'd drive one of those.

PackardV8
08-19-2018, 11:42 AM
My mother often told me, "Just because you can doesn't mean you should."

jack vines

swvalcon
08-19-2018, 11:44 AM
Wonder how it would look with a hawk front and narrow the box or swap for a fender side ranger?

S2Deluxe
08-19-2018, 12:37 PM
Is this the one? It's a '55 front clip. 74924 SDC Zone Meet in Henderson, Nevada October 2015.

The '55 sheet metal is intriguing! I'm visualizing it, with fresh chrome and paint, preferably two tone in either Corral and Pimlico, or the lemon lime? Could a '55 dash from an Ultra Vista model be installed? If you could find a way to adapt the butter knife side trim to it, and top it off with a set of fog lights! I think it would look awesome! I think, something similarly awsome could be done with the '53 - '54 sheet metal, if not for the difficulty with the wrap around windshield? Although it would eliminate the side trim hassle! I'd still want it two toned but, with the appropriate paint line and colors, to maximize its deceptivenes, for whatever year was chosen?

Mark

gordr
08-19-2018, 12:50 PM
The '55 front sheet metal works, because it was taken from a late '55 Ultra Vista, with the wrap around windshield. Early '55 and '53 - '54 sheet metal wouldn't fit readily because of the change in cowl design. I agree with Gary, the '56 - '58 front clip would be the most pleasing way to do this on a Champ.

Studebakercenteroforegon
08-19-2018, 12:52 PM
The '55 sheet metal is intriguing! I'm visualizing it, with fresh chrome and paint, in Corral and Pimlico, or the lemon lime two tones and also a set of fog lights. I think it would look awesome! The '53 - '54 sheet metal would as well, but I'd want to use the appropriate colors, for whatever year was chosen?

Mark
No, the ‘53 - ‘54 Sedan sheet metal would not work as well. The difference being the shape of the back of the hood. The ‘53 to early ‘55 windshields vs. the late ‘55 and later wrap around windshield had very different Cowl contours and thus different hood shapes to fit the Cowl. That is why the Champ pictured has a late ‘55 front end.
On a side note, I wish people would quit obsessing about the late Champ wide box. It’s a pickup truck, designed and marketed to haul things!

Milaca
08-19-2018, 01:31 PM
I would prefer a 1956 or 1957 sedan front clip to a 1958. Nothing will help that box mismatch other than narrowing the box.

I agree that the 1956-57 front clips look more attractive, but the 1958s quad headlamps protruding out the sides would look more appropriate with the bed that also protrudes out the sides. ;)


While we are making suggestions, may as well put a 1958 Packard sedan front clip into the mix! :)

S2Deluxe
08-19-2018, 02:06 PM
The '55 front sheet metal works, because it was taken from a late '55 Ultra Vista, with the wrap around windshield. Early '55 and '53 - '54 sheet metal wouldn't fit readily because of the change in cowl design. I agree with Gary, the '56 - '58 front clip would be the most pleasing way to do this on a Champ.

Thanks, for reminding me, Gord. I was aware of it, and even noticed the wrap around windshield, I don't know why it didn't click? Maybe I was just too enamered by that '55 chrome.

Mark

t walgamuth
08-19-2018, 03:11 PM
Thanks for the lively discussion! I probably won't build another studebaker truck but will applaud anyone who does!

I saw that one with the bullet nose on a truck last year at nationals....that one looked a lot better in person with all one color paint than I thought it was going to from the early pics.

sals54
08-19-2018, 08:17 PM
I don't mind the 55 clip on the cab. But the "buck tooth" grill should go away. That's the only part that doesn't work for me. A flatter grill area would bring balance to the force.

t walgamuth
08-19-2018, 09:17 PM
Like a 53/54 front end.

studegary
08-19-2018, 10:51 PM
Like a 53/54 front end.

So do I, but they are not a bolt on fit to a Champ.

t walgamuth
08-20-2018, 05:41 AM
So do I, but they are not a bolt on fit to a Champ.

But a 55 is?

Noxnabaker
08-20-2018, 08:04 AM
If you remove the ugly chrome on a -55 like I'm just doing there's always ways to do better... ;)
74940

6hk71400
08-20-2018, 08:25 AM
Wonder how it would look with a hawk front and narrow the box or swap for a fender side ranger?

Because the Hawk/CK models did not use the wrap around, it would take mucho modification to do that. I guess someone with artistic talents could draw or photo modify one so we could see what it would look like.

Bob Miles

6hk71400
08-20-2018, 08:29 AM
[QUOTE=S2Deluxe;1123399] Could a '55 dash from an Ultra Vista model be installed? I remember some years back, Bob Palma mentioned that someone did put a Ultra Vista Dash that required some modification for the 6 Volt to the 12 Volt Champ truck. Also, one of our members put a 1958 sedan dash in his Champ truck because he did not like the glare off the panel for night driver

Bob Miles

StudeNewby
08-20-2018, 01:47 PM
But a 55 is?
See post #12.

swvalcon
08-20-2018, 01:55 PM
Bob seeing as how the edge at the cowl panel would need to be changed it would take a piece of the stock fender and the the front 3/4 of a hawk fender to work. Have cut off wheel and welder will travel so to speak.

Xcalibur
08-20-2018, 04:02 PM
Obviously, taste will always remain a personal quality. :lol:

t walgamuth
08-20-2018, 09:52 PM
See post #12.

Gotcha. Thanks!

GrumpyOne
08-21-2018, 09:33 PM
Is this the one? It's a '55 front clip. 74924 SDC Zone Meet in Henderson, Nevada October 2015.

I often thought of doing something like that as the '55 sedans had a nice dash and the streamlining might even increase gas mileage...

StudeNewby
08-22-2018, 03:11 PM
Obviously, taste will always remain a personal quality. :lol:
Yeahhhhhh...It's not my cup of tea either, but the 55's have never been my favorite design anyway. But doggone it, ya gotta admire the effort!

thunderations
08-22-2018, 04:28 PM
For those of us that LIKE the 55 front end with all the massive chrome, this is an awesome conversion.
Now, to narrow the bed and add the 55 rear quarter panels.

Cruzzar
08-23-2018, 01:12 AM
FYI, I have a almost complete 53/54 sedan front end if anyone is interested, I am missing the hood and the grill bars otherwise complete. Grill surrounds are not cracked, fenders, bumper, scoop, etc.

jimmijim8
08-24-2018, 08:16 PM
But a 55 is? I think it looks great with the 55 sedan clip. cheers jimmijim