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BShaw
02-08-2008, 06:19 PM
I haven't made a general post like this in a year or so but feel it's time to review a couple of things regarding the forum.

First, the kudos:

I wish to sincerely thank this forum community for the high level of assistance it continues to offer those with questions and problems with their Studebakers. The readiness and willingness to offer advise and experience really sets this forum (and club) apart from most others. I know, for the many of you with extensive Studebaker knowledge, that repeating essentially the same things many times over seems redundant, but the search function isn't perfect, and the fact that you all continually step up with the info is gratifying and greatly appreciated.

I also extend kudos to the forum community for its overall conduct, especially over the last six months or so. I appreciate that you have found ways to express your views without alienating others, debate without unproductive arguing, agreeing to disagree, and yes, sometimes just letting it pass.

That said, here are a couple of cautions I'd appreciate the community paying closer attention to this year:

OFF-TOPIC posts. This is a Studebaker forum for the discussion of Studebakers. Please avoid discussions on other topics. There are other forums and newsgroups that offer people more latitude in their discussion topics. These forums have always had a link on the SDC website for members' convenience. Examples:

http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/otherforums.asp
http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/newsgroups.asp

Anyway, it seems like there has been a lot more off-topic posts lately so let's please keep the discussions Studebaker related. I understand that this sometimes is a gray area and I try not to be hard-nose about it. If one feels the need to put an "OT" in the title of the post that's a pretty good clue not to post it. Please help me keep the focus on Studebakers.

FOR SALE policy. Many in today's larger forum community do not remember all the discussions, arguments and such that happened before the SDC Board formally set forth the policy that we try to operate under today. That approved formal policy forum members asked for is set forth here: http://www.studebakerdriversclub.com/sdc_forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3076
I know what all the arguments for and against the specifics of the policy are but, nonetheless, this is the policy approved by the SDC board and I respectfully ask that forum members keep this in mind when posting/promoting items for sale.

Anyway, thanks again for your participation and continued support of this SDC sponsored Studebaker forum!

BShaw,Webmaster
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/StudeRobert/StudeWebService-small.gif
60 Hawk. 49 2R5, 39 Champion
Woodbury, Minnesota

mbstude
02-08-2008, 06:40 PM
And thank YOU, Mr. Shaw, for putting up with all the madness. :)

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar-7.jpg

mbstude
02-08-2008, 06:40 PM
And thank YOU, Mr. Shaw, for putting up with all the madness. :)

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar-7.jpg

jbwhttail
02-08-2008, 07:01 PM
This by far is one of the most pleasurable forums I visit, people express an opinion without the venom. They also jump in to help a person with a problem or just a question.

Great Job Mr Shaw!

It is an addiction!

jbwhttail
02-08-2008, 07:01 PM
This by far is one of the most pleasurable forums I visit, people express an opinion without the venom. They also jump in to help a person with a problem or just a question.

Great Job Mr Shaw!

It is an addiction!

fpstude
02-08-2008, 11:36 PM
I'd like to repeat one statement by Mr. Shaw:
"I know, for the many of you with extensive Studebaker knowledge, that repeating essentially the same things many times over seems redundant, but the search function isn't perfect, and the fact that you all continually step up with the info is gratifying and greatly appreciated."
The time taken to answer questions by us newer folks is really appreciated. Many times photos are taken or items scanned to clarify answers. This takes time and again, it's appreciated.

Perry
'23 Special Six,
'50 Business Champ,
'50 Starlight Champ,
'60 Lark droptop,
'63 GT R1

fpstude
02-08-2008, 11:36 PM
I'd like to repeat one statement by Mr. Shaw:
"I know, for the many of you with extensive Studebaker knowledge, that repeating essentially the same things many times over seems redundant, but the search function isn't perfect, and the fact that you all continually step up with the info is gratifying and greatly appreciated."
The time taken to answer questions by us newer folks is really appreciated. Many times photos are taken or items scanned to clarify answers. This takes time and again, it's appreciated.

Perry
'23 Special Six,
'50 Business Champ,
'50 Starlight Champ,
'60 Lark droptop,
'63 GT R1

Mark57
02-09-2008, 12:03 AM
Thanks Bob... you wield the club in the hand of a velvet glove quite admirably! [^]

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar
3E-6/7-122 </h5>
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/57Transtar1.jpg

Mark57
02-09-2008, 12:03 AM
Thanks Bob... you wield the club in the hand of a velvet glove quite admirably! [^]

<h5>Mark
'57 Transtar
3E-6/7-122 </h5>
http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/57Transtar1.jpg

bams50
02-09-2008, 07:24 AM
Bob, I also thank you for all you do. This is by far the best- and most civil- of all the forums I follow.

I do respectfully disagree with you on the subject of OT posts. I think the vast majority of the conversation here is Stude stuff, as intended. But I think you're overlooking a very important aspect: community.

We all have come here, and participate, based on a common interest- Studebakers. But for me, the reason I am here several times a day is the connection with the others- a sense of family! So it seems only natural that the participants may drift slightly OT from time to time. Of course, we need to avoid getting into pages of totally unrelated banter; but I don't think this forum is anywhere near that.

I can tell you that my heavy interest and involvement in Studebakers is due mostly to this forum! Why? I love the cars- but I love most classic cars- in fact, lots of newer ones also... so that's not the reason. It's very simple: I truly enjoy the people here! I still own- and love- my Lincolns; that'll never change. I plan to have a decent size collection of older cars... there are many I was pursuing before getting involved in Studes. But frankly, my interest in them has waned somewhat- including the Lincolns- to be replaced by Studes as more models win me over. As I see it, this is a natural progression based upon the fact that I feel connected to so many people here. So the people have grown my love of the marque, and my love of the marque has grown my interest in the people! I look forward to the Meets; SB was my first International Meet, and what a great time it was for me! Of course I loved the cars, and the Museum; but by far it was meeting, in person, the people I had come to know through this forum that made it such an incredible time!

I would ask, please don't stifle the sense of community we currently have here. I would have hated to not have known about, and therefore not have been able to offer my support for, Anne's son's accident, or her brother passing away; or been able to send comfort to Walt Zander's widow, a total stranger, who was SO grateful that we knew him, and cared about HIM, not just his Stude. And there are so many other examples, every day. I'm always looking for more Stude knowledge, and almost all I've learned about them has come from this forum... but just as much, I enjoy getting to know the others here as people, and people have other interests, and other aspects of their life! It is clear from other forums I've seen that OT discussions have to be very restricted; politics and religion never work without causing problems. But I feel that when someone shares a post that's a little OT, you get to know someone as a person, and what they're like, and where they're at in life a little better. And that's a good thing! I sometimes go OT, but it's to offer those that are interested a little piece of insight as to who I am; something folks naturally want to do when they care about others. When someone posts about having a bad day, they're looking for support from people, not Studebakers. And to me, that's a badge of honor for the Forum, and it's administrator!

Here I go OT: I went through a stretch of deaths that really took more out of me than I realized. 6 people closed to me were lost in less than a year's time- among those a childhood sweetheart with whom I was still very close, stabbed to death by her husband. I took all I had just to look her teenage son and daughter in the face again. Another was my cousin's husband, 27 years my senior, who was like a father to me, and my near-constant companion, suddenly and unexpectedly dead at a VERY healthy-appearing 70 from a heart attack. That was about the time I retired from oval-track racing, and got involved with Studes. My involvement with the forum started around then- and it helped fill a few big holes in my life for a while; and for that I am eternally grateful! Were this site merely a collection of info on Studes, it would be nice

bams50
02-09-2008, 07:24 AM
Bob, I also thank you for all you do. This is by far the best- and most civil- of all the forums I follow.

I do respectfully disagree with you on the subject of OT posts. I think the vast majority of the conversation here is Stude stuff, as intended. But I think you're overlooking a very important aspect: community.

We all have come here, and participate, based on a common interest- Studebakers. But for me, the reason I am here several times a day is the connection with the others- a sense of family! So it seems only natural that the participants may drift slightly OT from time to time. Of course, we need to avoid getting into pages of totally unrelated banter; but I don't think this forum is anywhere near that.

I can tell you that my heavy interest and involvement in Studebakers is due mostly to this forum! Why? I love the cars- but I love most classic cars- in fact, lots of newer ones also... so that's not the reason. It's very simple: I truly enjoy the people here! I still own- and love- my Lincolns; that'll never change. I plan to have a decent size collection of older cars... there are many I was pursuing before getting involved in Studes. But frankly, my interest in them has waned somewhat- including the Lincolns- to be replaced by Studes as more models win me over. As I see it, this is a natural progression based upon the fact that I feel connected to so many people here. So the people have grown my love of the marque, and my love of the marque has grown my interest in the people! I look forward to the Meets; SB was my first International Meet, and what a great time it was for me! Of course I loved the cars, and the Museum; but by far it was meeting, in person, the people I had come to know through this forum that made it such an incredible time!

I would ask, please don't stifle the sense of community we currently have here. I would have hated to not have known about, and therefore not have been able to offer my support for, Anne's son's accident, or her brother passing away; or been able to send comfort to Walt Zander's widow, a total stranger, who was SO grateful that we knew him, and cared about HIM, not just his Stude. And there are so many other examples, every day. I'm always looking for more Stude knowledge, and almost all I've learned about them has come from this forum... but just as much, I enjoy getting to know the others here as people, and people have other interests, and other aspects of their life! It is clear from other forums I've seen that OT discussions have to be very restricted; politics and religion never work without causing problems. But I feel that when someone shares a post that's a little OT, you get to know someone as a person, and what they're like, and where they're at in life a little better. And that's a good thing! I sometimes go OT, but it's to offer those that are interested a little piece of insight as to who I am; something folks naturally want to do when they care about others. When someone posts about having a bad day, they're looking for support from people, not Studebakers. And to me, that's a badge of honor for the Forum, and it's administrator!

Here I go OT: I went through a stretch of deaths that really took more out of me than I realized. 6 people closed to me were lost in less than a year's time- among those a childhood sweetheart with whom I was still very close, stabbed to death by her husband. I took all I had just to look her teenage son and daughter in the face again. Another was my cousin's husband, 27 years my senior, who was like a father to me, and my near-constant companion, suddenly and unexpectedly dead at a VERY healthy-appearing 70 from a heart attack. That was about the time I retired from oval-track racing, and got involved with Studes. My involvement with the forum started around then- and it helped fill a few big holes in my life for a while; and for that I am eternally grateful! Were this site merely a collection of info on Studes, it would be nice

stude53
02-09-2008, 08:10 AM
To Mr. Shaw - Thanks for the reminder, Bob, and thanks for keeping watch over our beloved Forum.

I would also like to say to Bob Andrews and you - I agree with Bob. As a Bob myself, I also find the human element here as important as the Studebaker element. The personal and sometimes OT thoughts that some are willing to share are also important and make it real (like a family) for me.

I often communicate directly with other Forum members through email when I have something to say I don't feel would be of interest to all or to say something I feel should be private. As long as we swear off personal attacks, undue criticism, off-color comments and definitely leave off-limits such touchy topics as race, creed, gender, religion, and politics, I think some other OTs are okay.

[img=left]http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j259/stude53/studesmall2.jpg[/img=left]Bob Feaganes (stude53)
53 Starliner Hardtop
Newton Grove, NC

stude53
02-09-2008, 08:10 AM
To Mr. Shaw - Thanks for the reminder, Bob, and thanks for keeping watch over our beloved Forum.

I would also like to say to Bob Andrews and you - I agree with Bob. As a Bob myself, I also find the human element here as important as the Studebaker element. The personal and sometimes OT thoughts that some are willing to share are also important and make it real (like a family) for me.

I often communicate directly with other Forum members through email when I have something to say I don't feel would be of interest to all or to say something I feel should be private. As long as we swear off personal attacks, undue criticism, off-color comments and definitely leave off-limits such touchy topics as race, creed, gender, religion, and politics, I think some other OTs are okay.

[img=left]http://i82.photobucket.com/albums/j259/stude53/studesmall2.jpg[/img=left]Bob Feaganes (stude53)
53 Starliner Hardtop
Newton Grove, NC

BobPalma
02-09-2008, 09:35 AM
:) Well, the only real problem we seem to have now is too many BOBS! Feaganes, Andrews, Shaw, Kabchef, me, etc, etc....we need to adopt some new names to ease the confusion. (Just kidding.)

I agree with the two previous Bobs; the OT postings seem modest enough, and do add a sense of community. They also prove what a small world it is; to wit:

Jacob Newkirk is a frequent poster [what, not a BOB?] from Owensboro KY, south of Indiana across the Ohio River, somewhat removed from central Indiana. But awhile back, Jacob made a couple references to central Indiana Newkirks. I recognized Newkirk as the maiden name of my college roommate's wife Janet, so I casually asked younger Jacob if he was related to a former Janet Newkirk (now Armbruster), who was married to my former roommate at Purdue, Don Armbruster of Crawfordsville, in west central Indiana.

Sure enough, Jacob replied that Janet Newkirk was his father's cousin, and Jacob well knew Janet and her husband Don! As big as the world is, those kind of coincidences amaze me.

And that wasn't the end of it. I sent Jacob a period photograph of Don and I in front of The Boilermaker Special locomotive at Purdue, taken in the fall of 1968. (In addition to being roommates and friends, Don and I were also officers in The Purdue Reamer Club, an upperclassmen's service organization whose principle mission at Purdue is the care and feeding of Purdue University's Official Mascot, The Boilermaker Special locomotive.)

Jacob, in turn, sent me a photo of himself and several others in the tender of the current Boilermaker Special, taken a couple years ago when he was one of the members of a wedding party at Purdue that contracted with The Purdue Reamer Club to have The Boilermaker Special as part of that wedding.

Now, to complete the loop and get back to Studebakers: Many of you know the original Purdue Boilermaker Special mascot locomotive, BMS I, was built on a brand-new 1939/1940 Studebaker Champion chassis donated to Purdue University for that purpose by The Studebaker Corporation! [:0]

....and now you know "the rest of the story." :D

So keep a lid on the group as best you can, Bob Shaw, and thanks for all you do. (To clear up the confusion, maybe you could be Bob-1 and we other Bobs will fall in the order we joined the group; Bob-2 for Kabchef if he joined second, etc. You'd have to let us know the order in which we "bobbed" into the pool.) [:0];) [8D]BP

BobPalma
02-09-2008, 09:35 AM
:) Well, the only real problem we seem to have now is too many BOBS! Feaganes, Andrews, Shaw, Kabchef, me, etc, etc....we need to adopt some new names to ease the confusion. (Just kidding.)

I agree with the two previous Bobs; the OT postings seem modest enough, and do add a sense of community. They also prove what a small world it is; to wit:

Jacob Newkirk is a frequent poster [what, not a BOB?] from Owensboro KY, south of Indiana across the Ohio River, somewhat removed from central Indiana. But awhile back, Jacob made a couple references to central Indiana Newkirks. I recognized Newkirk as the maiden name of my college roommate's wife Janet, so I casually asked younger Jacob if he was related to a former Janet Newkirk (now Armbruster), who was married to my former roommate at Purdue, Don Armbruster of Crawfordsville, in west central Indiana.

Sure enough, Jacob replied that Janet Newkirk was his father's cousin, and Jacob well knew Janet and her husband Don! As big as the world is, those kind of coincidences amaze me.

And that wasn't the end of it. I sent Jacob a period photograph of Don and I in front of The Boilermaker Special locomotive at Purdue, taken in the fall of 1968. (In addition to being roommates and friends, Don and I were also officers in The Purdue Reamer Club, an upperclassmen's service organization whose principle mission at Purdue is the care and feeding of Purdue University's Official Mascot, The Boilermaker Special locomotive.)

Jacob, in turn, sent me a photo of himself and several others in the tender of the current Boilermaker Special, taken a couple years ago when he was one of the members of a wedding party at Purdue that contracted with The Purdue Reamer Club to have The Boilermaker Special as part of that wedding.

Now, to complete the loop and get back to Studebakers: Many of you know the original Purdue Boilermaker Special mascot locomotive, BMS I, was built on a brand-new 1939/1940 Studebaker Champion chassis donated to Purdue University for that purpose by The Studebaker Corporation! [:0]

....and now you know "the rest of the story." :D

So keep a lid on the group as best you can, Bob Shaw, and thanks for all you do. (To clear up the confusion, maybe you could be Bob-1 and we other Bobs will fall in the order we joined the group; Bob-2 for Kabchef if he joined second, etc. You'd have to let us know the order in which we "bobbed" into the pool.) [:0];) [8D]BP

BShaw
02-09-2008, 09:47 AM
I'd like to repeat what I said in my initial post:

"I understand that this (off-topic posts) sometimes is a gray area and I try not to be hard-nose about it."

Informing the forum that a fellow member is ill, had an accident or his/her area was hit by a tornado and other similar things would never be deleted as "off-topic". In that regard, there is no desire to "stifle" the sense of "Studebaker community".

I agree that the percentage of OT posts is low right now. However, I stand by my assessment that the number is growing. So, do I wait until it becomes a real problem or do I issue a friendly reminder that this is a specific focused forum?

Off-topic discussions that get us into trouble are those like the recent posting about a Nash Metropolitan. Relatively harmless until a reply used an ethnic reference. It was subsequently deleted but things like that do not cast the SDC in a favorable light IMHO. I am not singling this one or its authors out but offer it merely as one of many such examples over my tenure as webmaster.

In a perfect world, this forum community would be 100% self-regulating and all off-topic posts would reside within some gray area of acceptance. Unfortunately, it has been my experience that once the reigns on off-topic discussions are loosened too much, the forum gravitates more and more off-topic until it is dominate. I believe we all want to avoid that.

I'll close by again repeating...

"I understand that this (off-topic posts) sometimes is a gray area and I try not to be hard-nose about it."

BShaw,Webmaster
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/StudeRobert/StudeWebService-small.gif
60 Hawk. 49 2R5, 39 Champion
Woodbury, Minnesota

BShaw
02-09-2008, 09:47 AM
I'd like to repeat what I said in my initial post:

"I understand that this (off-topic posts) sometimes is a gray area and I try not to be hard-nose about it."

Informing the forum that a fellow member is ill, had an accident or his/her area was hit by a tornado and other similar things would never be deleted as "off-topic". In that regard, there is no desire to "stifle" the sense of "Studebaker community".

I agree that the percentage of OT posts is low right now. However, I stand by my assessment that the number is growing. So, do I wait until it becomes a real problem or do I issue a friendly reminder that this is a specific focused forum?

Off-topic discussions that get us into trouble are those like the recent posting about a Nash Metropolitan. Relatively harmless until a reply used an ethnic reference. It was subsequently deleted but things like that do not cast the SDC in a favorable light IMHO. I am not singling this one or its authors out but offer it merely as one of many such examples over my tenure as webmaster.

In a perfect world, this forum community would be 100% self-regulating and all off-topic posts would reside within some gray area of acceptance. Unfortunately, it has been my experience that once the reigns on off-topic discussions are loosened too much, the forum gravitates more and more off-topic until it is dominate. I believe we all want to avoid that.

I'll close by again repeating...

"I understand that this (off-topic posts) sometimes is a gray area and I try not to be hard-nose about it."

BShaw,Webmaster
http://i61.photobucket.com/albums/h53/StudeRobert/StudeWebService-small.gif
60 Hawk. 49 2R5, 39 Champion
Woodbury, Minnesota

mapman
02-09-2008, 10:22 AM
Thank you for all you do Mr. Shaw.
It is difficult to enforce standards set by others, yet you manage it with fairness and good nature. This is an excellent forum set up by an enthusiastic Studebaker community. I thoroughly enjoy the help and support offered every day.
You are the heart of this forum.
Rob
AKA Rob-Bob (the Waltons era)

mapman
02-09-2008, 10:22 AM
Thank you for all you do Mr. Shaw.
It is difficult to enforce standards set by others, yet you manage it with fairness and good nature. This is an excellent forum set up by an enthusiastic Studebaker community. I thoroughly enjoy the help and support offered every day.
You are the heart of this forum.
Rob
AKA Rob-Bob (the Waltons era)

Dick Steinkamp
02-09-2008, 10:36 AM
quote:Originally posted by BShaw
Unfortunately, it has been my experience that once the reigns on off-topic discussions are loosened too much, the forum gravitates more and more off-topic until it is dominate.


My experience also.



We've got it pretty good here [^].

Thanks to Bob Shaw for gently "steering" the group away from the rocks on the few rare occasions he has needed to.

Thanks to the group for developing the kind of positive culture here that makes it an interesting and fun forum.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
02-09-2008, 10:36 AM
quote:Originally posted by BShaw
Unfortunately, it has been my experience that once the reigns on off-topic discussions are loosened too much, the forum gravitates more and more off-topic until it is dominate.


My experience also.



We've got it pretty good here [^].

Thanks to Bob Shaw for gently "steering" the group away from the rocks on the few rare occasions he has needed to.

Thanks to the group for developing the kind of positive culture here that makes it an interesting and fun forum.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

bonehead007
02-09-2008, 10:40 AM
Kudos should also go to you Bob....I still consider myself a novice working on my cars but, I know and appreciate the fact that the one source that folks like myself can always come back to for info is this web site.

Sure there will always be disagreements or the discussion may take a wrong turn but, everyone on this site always seems to iron out their differences..

The folks that use this site always show the utmost respect & courtesy no matter how far off the problem or question may be. I owe alot of thanks to this site and its members in helping me out and giving me the confidence in working on these cars..

Keep up the good work Bob and also the rest of the members who never hesitate to help others on this site...

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/bonehead007/MVC-021F.jpg

New Jersey & Studes Perfect Together

bonehead007
02-09-2008, 10:40 AM
Kudos should also go to you Bob....I still consider myself a novice working on my cars but, I know and appreciate the fact that the one source that folks like myself can always come back to for info is this web site.

Sure there will always be disagreements or the discussion may take a wrong turn but, everyone on this site always seems to iron out their differences..

The folks that use this site always show the utmost respect & courtesy no matter how far off the problem or question may be. I owe alot of thanks to this site and its members in helping me out and giving me the confidence in working on these cars..

Keep up the good work Bob and also the rest of the members who never hesitate to help others on this site...

http://i136.photobucket.com/albums/q189/bonehead007/MVC-021F.jpg

New Jersey & Studes Perfect Together

JRoberts
02-09-2008, 11:33 AM
I too would like to thank you Mr. Shaw (You have to be formal because of all the Bobs!) for your work.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

JRoberts
02-09-2008, 11:33 AM
I too would like to thank you Mr. Shaw (You have to be formal because of all the Bobs!) for your work.

Joe Roberts
'61 R1 Champ
'65 Cruiser
Editor of "The Down Easterner"
Eastern North Carolina Chapter

bob40
02-09-2008, 12:16 PM
Yet another Bob weighs in!
My 2 bits worth of comment about OT topics.It was a family/community situation on the alt.autos newsgroup until the O/T posts got too heavy.There were comments made here by those who wouldnt go there as it had too much non Stude content.Just think for a moment if everyone here decided to post a O/T subject! All those who visit this site have had ample opportunities to tell our Studebaker friends about a subject outside the box.Mr.Shaw's last message has it right.The private email is available to share topics or thoughts away from the general board.

bob40
02-09-2008, 12:16 PM
Yet another Bob weighs in!
My 2 bits worth of comment about OT topics.It was a family/community situation on the alt.autos newsgroup until the O/T posts got too heavy.There were comments made here by those who wouldnt go there as it had too much non Stude content.Just think for a moment if everyone here decided to post a O/T subject! All those who visit this site have had ample opportunities to tell our Studebaker friends about a subject outside the box.Mr.Shaw's last message has it right.The private email is available to share topics or thoughts away from the general board.

63larkcustom
02-09-2008, 12:57 PM
Yes.. another Bob... This forum is excellent. Without the help of members on here, both advice and help, I would not have been able to get Betty on the road and keep her there. Mr. Shaw does a great job of keeping it on track.
Bob Sporner

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m190/63larkcustom/betty3rd.jpg

63larkcustom
02-09-2008, 12:57 PM
Yes.. another Bob... This forum is excellent. Without the help of members on here, both advice and help, I would not have been able to get Betty on the road and keep her there. Mr. Shaw does a great job of keeping it on track.
Bob Sporner

http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m190/63larkcustom/betty3rd.jpg

JBOYLE
02-09-2008, 01:07 PM
Nice reminder.
I love the spirt of cooperation here. This is the nicest forum I've seen...any nastiness is rare.

As a new guy to Studebakers...and one who is not the most technically adept...I agree with Shaw's kudo about helping people and being forgiving of repeated questions.

Sure a lot of them are common sense stuff that one learns after a short while hanging around here ..and joining the clubs..and buying the manuals.
But remember, not everyone is as experienced as some of you. For some (like me) buying an Avanti is a BIG deal, a commitment of considerable money and time.

If a question comes up from a new member, or even a non-member asking a real basic question, smile and remember you're helping grow the club and the hobby. And both will need to be larger and stronger to whithstand the challenges ahead (EPA rules, more laws, zoning regs, etc.)

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

JBOYLE
02-09-2008, 01:07 PM
Nice reminder.
I love the spirt of cooperation here. This is the nicest forum I've seen...any nastiness is rare.

As a new guy to Studebakers...and one who is not the most technically adept...I agree with Shaw's kudo about helping people and being forgiving of repeated questions.

Sure a lot of them are common sense stuff that one learns after a short while hanging around here ..and joining the clubs..and buying the manuals.
But remember, not everyone is as experienced as some of you. For some (like me) buying an Avanti is a BIG deal, a commitment of considerable money and time.

If a question comes up from a new member, or even a non-member asking a real basic question, smile and remember you're helping grow the club and the hobby. And both will need to be larger and stronger to whithstand the challenges ahead (EPA rules, more laws, zoning regs, etc.)

63 Avanti R1 2788
1914 Stutz Bearcat
(George Barris replica)

Washington State

Roscomacaw
02-09-2008, 01:35 PM
AHA! Leave it to the &gt;"crafty"&lt; Bob to start a thread about Kudos & Cautions - NEITHER of which were ever produced by Studebaker! Certainly things they DID produce ably served as catalysts to evoke Kudos and Cautions, but (and just to make sure I wasn't talkin' thru my hat, I flipped thru every single Turning Wheels in my library)I simply don't recall either Fred Fox or the vaunted Mr. Quinn every recounting the tale of the aborted 4 cylinder Kudo.
And while Studebaker might well have thrown Caution to the winds a time or two, I sincerely doubt such a manuver actually manifested itself in engineers tossing blueprints of the Caution out second floor windows of what's now the SASCO warehouse!

or... or... wait... Maybe this is a thread about BOBS!!!

WELL - if THAT'S the case, how could I, myself, not weigh in? And you KNOW I could weigh WAY in if I wanted to.[}:)]

Ha! Our webmaster's gonna read this and utter: "Oh pshaw!":(

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

Roscomacaw
02-09-2008, 01:35 PM
AHA! Leave it to the &gt;"crafty"&lt; Bob to start a thread about Kudos & Cautions - NEITHER of which were ever produced by Studebaker! Certainly things they DID produce ably served as catalysts to evoke Kudos and Cautions, but (and just to make sure I wasn't talkin' thru my hat, I flipped thru every single Turning Wheels in my library)I simply don't recall either Fred Fox or the vaunted Mr. Quinn every recounting the tale of the aborted 4 cylinder Kudo.
And while Studebaker might well have thrown Caution to the winds a time or two, I sincerely doubt such a manuver actually manifested itself in engineers tossing blueprints of the Caution out second floor windows of what's now the SASCO warehouse!

or... or... wait... Maybe this is a thread about BOBS!!!

WELL - if THAT'S the case, how could I, myself, not weigh in? And you KNOW I could weigh WAY in if I wanted to.[}:)]

Ha! Our webmaster's gonna read this and utter: "Oh pshaw!":(

Miscreant adrift in
the BerStuda Triangle
http://images.andale.com/f2/115/106/906179/2006/12/7/truckonhill3.jpg

1957 Transtar 1/2ton
1960 Larkvertible V8
1958 Provincial wagon
1953 Commander coupe

BobPalma
02-09-2008, 02:08 PM
:) OK; how many Bobs do we have, for Pete's sake? [:0]

I'll start the list and see who can add to it:

Bob Shaw, Bob Kabchef, Bob Sporner, Bob40(?), Bob Feaganes, Bob Andrews, Bob Palma...

[?][?] :D BP

BobPalma
02-09-2008, 02:08 PM
:) OK; how many Bobs do we have, for Pete's sake? [:0]

I'll start the list and see who can add to it:

Bob Shaw, Bob Kabchef, Bob Sporner, Bob40(?), Bob Feaganes, Bob Andrews, Bob Palma...

[?][?] :D BP

Dick Steinkamp
02-09-2008, 02:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

:) OK; how many Bobs do we have, for Pete's sake? [:0]



It seems like every Tom, Dick, and Harry is named Bob.


[:o)]

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
02-09-2008, 02:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

:) OK; how many Bobs do we have, for Pete's sake? [:0]



It seems like every Tom, Dick, and Harry is named Bob.


[:o)]

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

52hawk
02-09-2008, 02:13 PM
Well this thread certainly went OT.[8D]
Bob Dellinger

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

52hawk
02-09-2008, 02:13 PM
Well this thread certainly went OT.[8D]
Bob Dellinger

LaSalle,Il
61Hawk

Bob Langer
02-09-2008, 02:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

:) OK; how many Bobs do we have, for Pete's sake? [:0]

I'll start the list and see who can add to it:

Bob Shaw, Bob Kabchef, Bob Sporner, Bob40(?), Bob Feaganes, Bob Andrews, Bob Palma...

[?][?] :D BP



Bob Langer
63 Avanti
Glenshaw,PA

Bob Langer
02-09-2008, 02:13 PM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

:) OK; how many Bobs do we have, for Pete's sake? [:0]

I'll start the list and see who can add to it:

Bob Shaw, Bob Kabchef, Bob Sporner, Bob40(?), Bob Feaganes, Bob Andrews, Bob Palma...

[?][?] :D BP



Bob Langer
63 Avanti
Glenshaw,PA

rbruner
02-09-2008, 05:20 PM
Many thanks to forum members for valuable info and old service
bulletins on my Champ.
BOB Bruner
Charleston SC :)

rbruner
02-09-2008, 05:20 PM
Many thanks to forum members for valuable info and old service
bulletins on my Champ.
BOB Bruner
Charleston SC :)

Dick Clemens
02-09-2008, 06:53 PM
Dick I am not BOB. I'm studeDICK from the lower Ozarks.

Dick Clemens
02-09-2008, 06:53 PM
Dick I am not BOB. I'm studeDICK from the lower Ozarks.

jnewkirk77
02-10-2008, 02:43 AM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

:) OK; how many Bobs do we have, for Pete's sake? [:0]

I'll start the list and see who can add to it:

Bob Shaw, Bob Kabchef, Bob Sporner, Bob40(?), Bob Feaganes, Bob Andrews, Bob Palma...

[?][?] :D BP


Just call me "Bob by Association."

I do on occasion post OT, but will try to do better in the future. I must say, though, that I do appreciate everyone's kindness and well wishes regarding recent events (posted elsewhere).

And everything that Bob Palma said in his earlier post regarding me and my family is true. This ol' world just keeps on gettin' smaller and smaller, and I dare say we've got this forum and others like it for a lot of that.

Jacob Newkirk - Owensboro, KY

KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL! Drive a Studebaker!

jnewkirk77
02-10-2008, 02:43 AM
quote:Originally posted by BobPalma

:) OK; how many Bobs do we have, for Pete's sake? [:0]

I'll start the list and see who can add to it:

Bob Shaw, Bob Kabchef, Bob Sporner, Bob40(?), Bob Feaganes, Bob Andrews, Bob Palma...

[?][?] :D BP


Just call me "Bob by Association."

I do on occasion post OT, but will try to do better in the future. I must say, though, that I do appreciate everyone's kindness and well wishes regarding recent events (posted elsewhere).

And everything that Bob Palma said in his earlier post regarding me and my family is true. This ol' world just keeps on gettin' smaller and smaller, and I dare say we've got this forum and others like it for a lot of that.

Jacob Newkirk - Owensboro, KY

KEEP AMERICA BEAUTIFUL! Drive a Studebaker!