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wagonairedriver
02-06-2008, 07:52 PM
I came across a 1941 Champion business coupe in a book today. It was really just a picture. I thought it was very cool. Does anybody have personal experience with one? Production figures? How were they to drive? Good road car? Just general info. I might want to look for one, but need more info first... thanks for any help.

lstude
02-06-2008, 09:28 PM
A good person to ask is Richard Quinn. He has owned several. He is also the editor of the Antique Studebaker Club's magazine.

His email address is: rtq11@aol.com

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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lstude
02-06-2008, 09:28 PM
A good person to ask is Richard Quinn. He has owned several. He is also the editor of the Antique Studebaker Club's magazine.

His email address is: rtq11@aol.com

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

http://i129.photobucket.com/albums/p235/lstude1/MeatSouthBendsm1.jpg

8E45E
02-06-2008, 11:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by wagonairedriver

I came across a 1941 Champion business coupe in a book today. It was really just a picture. I thought it was very cool. Does anybody have personal experience with one? Production figures? How were they to drive? Good road car? Just general info. I might want to look for one, but need more info first... thanks for any help.


Heres a pic of one that was in South Bend in 2002.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2185/2248179676_f6445588b2_b.jpg

And in a 'Group setting'

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2017/2247403363_dc5a0cb5ae_b.jpg

Craig

8E45E
02-06-2008, 11:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by wagonairedriver

I came across a 1941 Champion business coupe in a book today. It was really just a picture. I thought it was very cool. Does anybody have personal experience with one? Production figures? How were they to drive? Good road car? Just general info. I might want to look for one, but need more info first... thanks for any help.


Heres a pic of one that was in South Bend in 2002.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2185/2248179676_f6445588b2_b.jpg

And in a 'Group setting'

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2017/2247403363_dc5a0cb5ae_b.jpg

Craig

mbstude
02-07-2008, 08:06 AM
Hey Craig, I know that red coupe quite well! I judged it at a meet last year, and it was the only car to score a perfect 400 points. :) A really beautiful car.

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar-7.jpg

mbstude
02-07-2008, 08:06 AM
Hey Craig, I know that red coupe quite well! I judged it at a meet last year, and it was the only car to score a perfect 400 points. :) A really beautiful car.

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar-7.jpg

CKOT
02-07-2008, 08:38 AM
I have a 42 two door sedan, so same basic car, but the coupes are great lookers! Mine drives nicely, steers easily, and runs like a top. Those flathead sixes are indestructible, easy to maintain, and pull like a tractor. Make no mistake, these cars were created before interstate systems, so they shine best on 2 lane highways, but if needed will cruise at 65 without issue. Brakes are what you'd expect for a vintage of that year, again, think 60+ year old designs.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u317/chief120865/signature9_07_final.jpg

CKOT
02-07-2008, 08:38 AM
I have a 42 two door sedan, so same basic car, but the coupes are great lookers! Mine drives nicely, steers easily, and runs like a top. Those flathead sixes are indestructible, easy to maintain, and pull like a tractor. Make no mistake, these cars were created before interstate systems, so they shine best on 2 lane highways, but if needed will cruise at 65 without issue. Brakes are what you'd expect for a vintage of that year, again, think 60+ year old designs.

http://i171.photobucket.com/albums/u317/chief120865/signature9_07_final.jpg

raprice
02-07-2008, 06:26 PM
Yes, the '39 to '42 coupes were real lookers. I believe these cars came out of the Loewy design studios. Beautiful cars.
My first car was a '40 Champion business coupe. That's how I got the Studebaker sickness. There's no cure.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop

raprice
02-07-2008, 06:26 PM
Yes, the '39 to '42 coupes were real lookers. I believe these cars came out of the Loewy design studios. Beautiful cars.
My first car was a '40 Champion business coupe. That's how I got the Studebaker sickness. There's no cure.
Rog

'59 Lark VI Regal Hardtop

kurtruk
02-07-2008, 06:27 PM
A significant factor to consider on these cars is the taillights. Lenses and housings (or bezels). Seriously. If you don't know why, check out some current prices for them.[:0][:0][:0]

KURTRUK
(read it backwards)

kurtruk
02-07-2008, 06:27 PM
A significant factor to consider on these cars is the taillights. Lenses and housings (or bezels). Seriously. If you don't know why, check out some current prices for them.[:0][:0][:0]

KURTRUK
(read it backwards)

wagonairedriver
02-10-2008, 02:38 AM
thanks for the info, guys. I really like the looks. Will keep my eyes open and do some more research!

wagonairedriver
02-10-2008, 02:38 AM
thanks for the info, guys. I really like the looks. Will keep my eyes open and do some more research!

Studebaker Wheel
02-10-2008, 06:30 PM
Matthew, how in the world could you give 400 points to that '41?? Everyone knows that the fender welting should be body color!! Back to Judging 101 for you!
Seriously I know the car and the owner, nicely done....but the welting should be body color.

Richard Quinn
editor: Antique Studebaker Review

Studebaker Wheel
02-10-2008, 06:30 PM
Matthew, how in the world could you give 400 points to that '41?? Everyone knows that the fender welting should be body color!! Back to Judging 101 for you!
Seriously I know the car and the owner, nicely done....but the welting should be body color.

Richard Quinn
editor: Antique Studebaker Review

mbstude
02-10-2008, 06:31 PM
Sorry Mr. Quinn. Now I know. [:I]

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar-7.jpg

mbstude
02-10-2008, 06:31 PM
Sorry Mr. Quinn. Now I know. [:I]

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/avatar-7.jpg

Guido
02-10-2008, 07:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studebaker Wheel

Matthew, how in the world could you give 400 points to that '41?? Everyone knows that the fender welting should be body color!! Back to Judging 101 for you! At least he has a few more years in him to get it right! ;)

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

See pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
02-10-2008, 07:33 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studebaker Wheel

Matthew, how in the world could you give 400 points to that '41?? Everyone knows that the fender welting should be body color!! Back to Judging 101 for you! At least he has a few more years in him to get it right! ;)

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/62/562/2/21/69/2353221690097493054hwathP_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/60/460/3/91/1/2433391010097493054nAMBKh_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/2/49/65/2603249650097493054XvpTUI_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/64/564/6/89/77/2752689770097493054skXzAT_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/5/22/8/2609522080097493054ZNRJeA_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/69/169/4/66/56/2729466560097493054oBZsXT_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

See pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

studegary
02-10-2008, 10:37 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studebaker Wheel

Matthew, how in the world could you give 400 points to that '41?? Everyone knows that the fender welting should be body color!! Back to Judging 101 for you!
Seriously I know the car and the owner, nicely done....but the welting should be body color.

Richard Quinn
editor: Antique Studebaker Review


Richard - I know that the rear fender welting should be painted body color on 1947-1952 cars, except for some dark colors - especially black. When did Studebaker start the practice of painting rear fender welt body color? I think that it was unpainted on my 1940 President, but it was a black car so that doesn't count.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
02-10-2008, 10:37 PM
quote:Originally posted by Studebaker Wheel

Matthew, how in the world could you give 400 points to that '41?? Everyone knows that the fender welting should be body color!! Back to Judging 101 for you!
Seriously I know the car and the owner, nicely done....but the welting should be body color.

Richard Quinn
editor: Antique Studebaker Review


Richard - I know that the rear fender welting should be painted body color on 1947-1952 cars, except for some dark colors - especially black. When did Studebaker start the practice of painting rear fender welt body color? I think that it was unpainted on my 1940 President, but it was a black car so that doesn't count.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

whacker
02-10-2008, 11:02 PM
Is anybody interested in one like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-Studebaker-Champion-Opera-coupe-A-REAL-Champion-1939-Studebaker-Champion-Opera-Coupe_W0QQitemZ260210775385QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem

whacker
02-10-2008, 11:02 PM
Is anybody interested in one like this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-Studebaker-Champion-Opera-coupe-A-REAL-Champion-1939-Studebaker-Champion-Opera-Coupe_W0QQitemZ260210775385QQihZ016QQcategoryZ6466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZV iewItem

Studebaker Wheel
02-11-2008, 05:55 AM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/31brougham.jpg?t=1202730525
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/31broughamcloseup.jpg?t=1202730718

Gary; At least as early as 1931 and probably earlier. Remember most cars in the pre 1931 era had black or dark fenders. Images above show a 1931 President Model 90 Brougham. The only year that they did [u]not</u> paint the fender welt body color on light colored cars was the 1946 Skyway Champions.

Richard Quinn
editor: Antique Studebaker Review

Studebaker Wheel
02-11-2008, 05:55 AM
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/31brougham.jpg?t=1202730525
http://i230.photobucket.com/albums/ee285/studeq/31broughamcloseup.jpg?t=1202730718

Gary; At least as early as 1931 and probably earlier. Remember most cars in the pre 1931 era had black or dark fenders. Images above show a 1931 President Model 90 Brougham. The only year that they did [u]not</u> paint the fender welt body color on light colored cars was the 1946 Skyway Champions.

Richard Quinn
editor: Antique Studebaker Review

studegary
02-11-2008, 01:48 PM
Thanks for the response, Richard.
I thought that the idea on the '47 to '52 models was to make the rear fenders appear to be part of the body rather than a stuck on extra, as on older cars.
As you point out, Studebaker went out of their way much earlier to make the cars appear nicer.
I can remember an awards banquet that I ran (probably in the '70s) where an AACA "expert" insisted that no postwar (WW II) American company would have painted the fender welt.
Problems come up from people that have basically original cars that appear to have fender welt without paint. It is hard to convince some that the factory paint wore/polished off in the past half a Century.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
02-11-2008, 01:48 PM
Thanks for the response, Richard.
I thought that the idea on the '47 to '52 models was to make the rear fenders appear to be part of the body rather than a stuck on extra, as on older cars.
As you point out, Studebaker went out of their way much earlier to make the cars appear nicer.
I can remember an awards banquet that I ran (probably in the '70s) where an AACA "expert" insisted that no postwar (WW II) American company would have painted the fender welt.
Problems come up from people that have basically original cars that appear to have fender welt without paint. It is hard to convince some that the factory paint wore/polished off in the past half a Century.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer