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Hawklover
06-13-2018, 08:32 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/1964-Studebaker-Avanti/302770731754?hash=item467e8abaea:g:HEMAAOSwWfdbIZT6&vxp=mtr

tomlewis
06-13-2018, 08:59 PM
So how does an Avanti with serial number R4779 become a 1964 model? Just like the turquoise one that was on eBay about two weeks ago --- someone went to a lot of trouble to make another '63 into a square headlight model.

Tom

Jerry Forrester
06-13-2018, 09:25 PM
I like how they flipped the car over and took pictures of the undercarriage.

studegary
06-13-2018, 09:58 PM
So how does an Avanti with serial number R4779 become a 1964 model? Just like the turquoise one that was on eBay about two weeks ago --- someone went to a lot of trouble to make another '63 into a square headlight model.

Tom

Quite easy. Per Studebaker Service Letter G-1964-3, dated Sept. 27, 1963, "...effective September 1, 1963...all new and unused Avanti models when first sold at retail... will carry the registration year designation of 1964." Since the car in question wasn't built until July 1963, during the transition period, it likely wasn't sold new until it could become a 1964.

For the other part, square headlight replacement panels, for accident damage, were available when round headlight panels were not available.

StudeRich
06-14-2018, 01:38 AM
This one is CADILLAC powered! :woot:

Son O Lark
06-14-2018, 05:10 AM
"No attempt will be made to start it and we do not know what it needs to get running".-------------Spark plug wires would be a good start!

Gunslinger
06-14-2018, 05:56 AM
Is there any chance this could be the Avanti converted to Cadillac power by the Granatellis back in the '60s?

Blue 15G
06-14-2018, 08:01 AM
The front license plate is on upside down. That kills it for me. More work than I want to get into. :D

Avanti Fanatic
06-14-2018, 08:26 AM
Is there any chance this could be the Avanti converted to Cadillac power by the Granatellis back in the '60s?

Pretty sure that the Granatelli car is currently undergoing restoration,and is close to being completed.Also think the Granatelli car had a period (64-67) Cadillac 429 in it.

willys54
06-14-2018, 09:47 AM
"How brave are you" is right, you'd be traveling to a 3rd world country (LA. Ca) to get it. :eek:

Buzzard
06-14-2018, 11:26 AM
I always thought the Granatelli conversion was a Big Block Oldsmobile (425/455cid).
Please confirm.
Bill

sweetolbob
06-14-2018, 11:37 AM
Judy said she was OK with the 74 when we dragged it home so I think she'd be fine with this one. A lot less work as the underside of this one as it looks in good nick. I'll bet this one doesn't smell like cigarette smoke, mold and mothballs like the 74 did also.

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Just not enough time anymore. Bob

tsenecal
06-14-2018, 12:21 PM
I'm not that brave. My pockets are shallow, ( after my Hawk build). And my wife is not very loving, ( at least not when it comes to cars). I think it would be a fun project though, for someone brave, with deep pockets, and a loving wife!

PackardV8
06-14-2018, 12:34 PM
I always thought the Granatelli conversion was a Big Block Oldsmobile (425/455cid).
Please confirm. Bill

Hi, Bill,

Different cars. The Olds 425" was also a SoCal car, featured in the Hot Rod Magazine Engine Swapping Annual.

jack vines

Avanti Fanatic
06-14-2018, 12:35 PM
I always thought the Granatelli conversion was a Big Block Oldsmobile (425/455cid).
Please confirm.
Bill

http://www.spokesman.com/blogs/autos/2015/jul/06/collector-car-corner-one-kind-granatelli-owned-avanti-cadillac-resurfaces/#/0

skyway
06-14-2018, 12:47 PM
Haven't we discussed this car (or at least an Avanti with those wheels) before?

Avanti Fanatic
06-14-2018, 01:13 PM
Hi, Bill,

Different cars. The Olds 425" was also a SoCal car, featured in the Hot Rod Magazine Engine Swapping Annual.

jack vines

Jack,as I recall,I have seen a picture of that engine transplant,and an R-4 engine came out of that Avanti before the Olds 425 went it.Love to know the back-story on how the R-4 ended up in the Avanti initially....

sals54
06-14-2018, 04:38 PM
If you're wondering what he's expecting on the final sale end of the bidding from ebay, this car just showed up on craigslist in Los Angeles for $8000.
Good luck on the low ball bidding.

https://losangeles.craigslist.org/wst/ctd/d/1964-studebaker-avanti/6617145304.html

Alan
06-14-2018, 05:19 PM
To A Fan. The car in the article was R3786 belonging to Bob Patton, who lived at the time in Burbank and was the President of the local chapter of the AOIA. He worked as a camera man for Disney and did car comercials on the side. He was good friends with Ray Cash. Bob didn't like the power of the R1 4 speed and Cash built and installed the R4 in his Burbank shop. By the time of the article in the Peterson's Engine Swapping Manuel, Cash was working at Herbert and Meeks, that is where the Old's swap was done.

avanti-hawk
06-14-2018, 05:39 PM
That's a great looking Avanti to me. I haven't seen a rust free original chassis like that in decades. If it were in Canada at $9000 Canadian dollars I'd be on my way to look at it!

PackardV8
06-14-2018, 05:54 PM
Full documentation, except we won't tell you anything about it.

Still, if one needed a fun project, that's a heckuva good starting point for $8K. Just imagine how well an Avanti won't hook with 550 lbs/ft of torque.

jack vines

Avanti Fanatic
06-14-2018, 08:03 PM
To A Fan. The car in the article was R3786 belonging to Bob Patton, who lived at the time in Burbank and was the President of the local chapter of the AOIA. He worked as a camera man for Disney and did car comercials on the side. He was good friends with Ray Cash. Bob didn't like the power of the R1 4 speed and Cash built and installed the R4 in his Burbank shop. By the time of the article in the Peterson's Engine Swapping Manuel, Cash was working at Herbert and Meeks, that is where the Old's swap was done.

Thanks,Alan-always wondered what the story was with that car!

whitehawk759
06-15-2018, 03:38 PM
Just think, if you bought it now you could have it ready for the International meet in Tacoma. :)

Hawklover
06-23-2018, 09:32 AM
Sold for $7,490 to the guy that built the 472 Avanti for Andy Granatelli.

Best Regards,

Dennis Goddard

Dennis Buys Classic Cars and Motorcycles
8931 Venice Blvd.
Los Angeles, CA. 90034

PackardV8
06-23-2018, 09:45 AM
He's senior member and a regular contributor; along soon with photos and clarification of the above. Turns out, much of what is out there/on here about the Granatelli Avanti/Cadillac is incorrect or only partially correct.

jack vines