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8E45E
05-18-2018, 01:58 PM
https://minneapolis.craigslist.org/ank/cto/d/1955-packard-consolation/6584838496.html

Craig

r1lark
05-18-2018, 02:03 PM
Ohh, that is SWEET! Hard to believe that nice a car is stored outside with snow all over it. Looks like a used car lot.

53k
05-18-2018, 03:25 PM
Ohh, that is SWEET! Hard to believe that nice a car is stored outside with snow all over it. Looks like a used car lot.
Brings back a sad memory. In 1966 or 1967 I used to get a lot of neat Studebaker items from a small salvage yard just outside NAS Barbers Point on Oahu. The owner was a nice Chinese gent who let me walk the yard. One day I walked in and there sat a nice red and black '55 Packard Clipper hardtop. The owner of the yard told me that he had just towed it in from a parking lot at the Honolulu airport. It was considered an abandoned car. He told me that if I could get the title, he would let me have the car for storage costs (very low). I did a lot of detective work tracking the owner- name, Honolulu address, etc. He had apparently decided to leave the island and never come back. I was unsuccessful at finding him on the mainland. The Packard was pristine, had the self-leveling feature and a trunk nearly full of NOS Packard parts from Frost and French. Last time I saw the car it was at the bottom of a stack of cars to be crushed.

Skip Lackie
05-18-2018, 04:04 PM
A rare model, the Consolation.

JRoberts
05-18-2018, 04:18 PM
One of the cars I would love to own. Many years ago a then member of our chapter had a two tone blue Packard like this one. His had a three speed w/odrive. I loved that car. Just standing next to it made me feel good.

Studedude
05-18-2018, 04:59 PM
These things are coming out of the woodwork!

https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/cto/d/1955-packard-clipper/6554854464.html

http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?106054-Packard-For-Sale-Okemah-OK

r1lark
05-18-2018, 05:07 PM
The Oklahoma City car looks like it has issues with the Torsion Level system -- sits kinda low in the front.

BobPalma
05-18-2018, 05:54 PM
The Oklahoma City car looks like it has issues with the Torsion Level system -- sits kinda low in the front.

:) Paul, as hard as it is to believe, many of those cars with Torsion-Level Ride achieve that stance due to not having been greased properly through the years.

A 1955-1956 Torsion-Level Packard has about as many grease fittings aft of the cowl as it does in front of the cowl, with all the pivot points for the compensator bar system, and the longitudinal bars that run to the front wheels. Few of them get greased as they should and as a result, the system binds up and the bars don't rotate ever so slightly on their pivots, to keep the car level.

I spent a lot of time under my 1956 Clipper Super hardtop when I first got it and, still, one side of the car sits a little lower in the rear than the other. If you attend many Packard meets, it's unusual to see one of those cars dead-level from side to side in the rear, or the proper ride height front to rear.

It was an excellent system and slick as snot when new and properly maintained, but few of them were. :( :cool: BP

r1lark
05-18-2018, 06:33 PM
It was an excellent system and slick as snot when new and properly maintained, but few of them were. :( :cool: BP

My Dad always spoke highly of the Torsion Level system. If you remember, my family had a Packard dealership and took on Studebaker in '57. One of his favorite stories was going to pick up the used straight 8 Packard Marine engine that was going into my Grandfather's new boat (a 26 foot cabin cruiser). The engine (and I suppose the heavy marine forward/reverse transmission) was put into the trunk (!!) of the '56 Packard, and of course dropped the rear of the car down significantly. But then it slowly rose up to normal ride height as the Torsion Level compensated for the weight. I can't remember if this would have been my Grandfather's Senior Packard, or my Dad's Constellation, but my guess is probably my Grandfather's car. He always drove a Patricians, Caribbean, etc.

I've still got the marine transmission that has the Packard Marine brass nameplate on it. Thought I had a picture of the plate but can't find it right now.
EDIT: found the Packard Marine plate:
72587

Here are a couple of the Packards my Grandfather drove:
A Caribbean hardtop parked at his house:
72580

Another one, pic taken on a trip to see relatives in Florida:
72581

BobPalma
05-18-2018, 07:07 PM
Here are a couple of the Packards my Grandfather drove:
A Caribbean hardtop parked at his house:
72580

Another one, pic taken on a trip to see relatives in Florida:
72581


:D Cool beans, Paul; thanks. :)

Did he trade the black & white '55 400 toward the '56 Caribbean hardtop? :confused: ;) :cool: BP

studegary
05-18-2018, 08:31 PM
A rare model, the Consolation.

There may be some that do not "get" your comment. The Packard model is a Constellation (a lot better than a "Consolation"). This type of error often happens with Studebaker models, where all one has to do is look at the car to get the model name correct.

There were only 1466 for 1956. I do not have the number for 1955 (probably lower).

r1lark
05-18-2018, 08:38 PM
:D Cool beans, Paul; thanks. :)
Did he trade the black & white '55 400 toward the '56 Caribbean hardtop? :confused: ;) :cool: BP

Well.......my Grandfather was the primary owner and President of the dealership, so he got a current year car to drive of his choice. :)

Once the dealership started selling Mercedes-Benz, he would drive those:
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BobPalma
05-19-2018, 05:45 AM
There were only 1466 for 1956. I do not have the number for 1955 (probably lower).

:woot: Actually, Gary; there were 6,672 1955 Clipper Constellations, per The Standard Catalog of American Cars, 4th Edition.

They also verify your 1956 figure of 1,466. :) :cool: BP

studegary
05-19-2018, 10:26 AM
:woot: Actually, Gary; there were 6,672 1955 Clipper Constellations, per The Standard Catalog of American Cars, 4th Edition.

They also verify your 1956 figure of 1,466. :) :cool: BP

Thanks, Bob. I was thinking that the 1955 figure would be lower than the 1956 figure because I thought that the 1955 Constellation was a late offering (maybe I am incorrect on that).

In the 1980s, I took a decent appearing, complete and running 1956 Constellation (one of 1466) to the junkyard because no one wanted to pay $100 for it. If there were things like CL and eBay then, we MAY have gotten more. People were used to getting Packards for near zero at that time.

BobPalma
05-19-2018, 04:08 PM
Thanks, Bob. I was thinking that the 1955 figure would be lower than the 1956 figure because I thought that the 1955 Constellation was a late offering (maybe I am incorrect on that).

:o Not that I'm aware of as to a late introduction, Gary. All the literature I've ever seen on 1955 Packards has the Constellation hardtop at the top of the Clipper Custom line from Day 1. :) :cool: BP

8E45E
05-19-2018, 05:20 PM
:o Not that I'm aware of as to a late introduction, Gary. All the literature I've ever seen on 1955 Packards has the Constellation hardtop at the top of the Clipper Custom line from Day 1. :) :cool: BP

ALL '55 Packards were 'late' from what I've read. Weren't there huge problems getting the '55 model year into production in time for the fall selling season?

Craig

57pack
05-19-2018, 06:09 PM
When we owned our 1955 400, (identical to r1larks black and white 400) I would take it to school. After school we would all meet in our town square, park our cars and play the radio and hang out. The girls would love to sit on the rear bumper with their backs resting on the trunk lid.
I would count to I think it was seven and there would be a click and the electric motor would engage and the car would start to level out. The girls would always let out a startled Yelp and jump up! Some times I would quick hit the override switch under the dash and leave the back of the car up in the air.

BobPalma
05-19-2018, 06:13 PM
ALL '55 Packards were 'late' from what I've read. Weren't there huge problems getting the '55 model year into production in time for the fall selling season? Craig

:( Absolutely, Craig; getting 1955 Packard production lines up and running was a monumental problem fraught with delays. However, Clipper Constellations weren't any better or worse off than the balance of the line.

As I've reported, my Dad didn't get his first 1955 Packard of any model until February 3, 1955...and how many 1955 other makes had been sold in the town in the interim?

(Further, to add insult to injury, Dad had been paying for his own ads in the local paper, encouraging potential customers to wait until they had a new Packard or Clipper or two with the fabulous Torsion-Level Ride.

So what did they do? The first car he received, a Clipper Super 4-door sedan, had conventional suspension! :mad: Torsion-Level Ride was optional at extra cost on 1955 Clipper Supers and Clipper DeLuxes.) :cool: BP

57pack
05-20-2018, 08:58 AM
We bought our 1955 400 in late June. Always remember that as car wore a number 7 on the inspection sticker. NJ would allow two weeks to obtain a state inspection.