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63larkcustom
02-03-2008, 12:07 PM
Just saw a lovely Cruiser on ebay. I'm in the midst of the Betty revival else I'd be chasing that car. Who ever gets it will get a sweet little car.
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http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Studebaker-Lark-Cruiser-1963-289-V8-California-Car_W0QQitemZ290203468476QQihZ019QQcategoryZ6466QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZVie wItem


http://i104.photobucket.com/albums/m190/63larkcustom/betty3rd.jpg

studegary
02-03-2008, 03:14 PM
That looks like a nice car for someone to start with, especially if they don't have to go for much in shipping/delivery.

Is a "non-op" title in California like a salvage title, in that it will be difficult/impossible to get registered some places? Does it mean that you have to pay California back fees to bring it up to date? I have never resided in California, only visited there a few times, so I am not that familiar with their MV laws.

My Father-in-Law bought a 1963 Cruiser new in the same white over blue combination.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
02-03-2008, 03:14 PM
That looks like a nice car for someone to start with, especially if they don't have to go for much in shipping/delivery.

Is a "non-op" title in California like a salvage title, in that it will be difficult/impossible to get registered some places? Does it mean that you have to pay California back fees to bring it up to date? I have never resided in California, only visited there a few times, so I am not that familiar with their MV laws.

My Father-in-Law bought a 1963 Cruiser new in the same white over blue combination.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

StudeRich
02-03-2008, 03:28 PM
No Gary, that is where California is way more understanding of older car owners and collectors than Eastern states. One of the main purposes of the Non-Operational status of a Calif. registration is to avoid the fees! The title remains untouched by this action of reporting it "non-operational" is is part of the Registration process only. There is a flat fee for all Vehicles, currently $16.00, was $10.00 and originally when the program started, only $5.00. All you do is pay the current fee, and continue on like nothing happened when you get the car "running" the registration form comes to you every year with the option of doing nothing and leaving it Non-Operational, or paying the noted current fees to re-instate it. Of course you can be sited for no registration if it is ever found on a Street or Highway, it is to be on private property only.
This way the title stays forever in the computer system and never "drops out". If you do NOT do this, and just let a car sit and the Lic. expire it WILL "drop out", then it is no longer considered by the DMV, Police or Courts as a "Motor Vehicle" and as such, can NOT be reported stolen, you might as well have set it on fire, if it is stolen, it is GONE forever, you would have a very hard time retrieving it even if you find it! :(

It is a very good system, also the whole registration process. After all, they have to keep track of more license plate numbers than anywhere in the entire WORLD! There are still active Yellow on Black plates originally registered to cars up to 1969, when the Yellow on Blue came out and those are also still in service as 6 digit and 7 digit as well as the current Dark Blue on White in many series, plus Personalized, year of Manufacture, Historical Vehicle and Horseless Carriage plates. :)
Not to mention that there are also more cars than any State, the last I heard. [:0]

StudeRich -Studebakers Northwest Ferndale, WA

StudeRich
02-03-2008, 03:28 PM
No Gary, that is where California is way more understanding of older car owners and collectors than Eastern states. One of the main purposes of the Non-Operational status of a Calif. registration is to avoid the fees! The title remains untouched by this action of reporting it "non-operational" is is part of the Registration process only. There is a flat fee for all Vehicles, currently $16.00, was $10.00 and originally when the program started, only $5.00. All you do is pay the current fee, and continue on like nothing happened when you get the car "running" the registration form comes to you every year with the option of doing nothing and leaving it Non-Operational, or paying the noted current fees to re-instate it. Of course you can be sited for no registration if it is ever found on a Street or Highway, it is to be on private property only.
This way the title stays forever in the computer system and never "drops out". If you do NOT do this, and just let a car sit and the Lic. expire it WILL "drop out", then it is no longer considered by the DMV, Police or Courts as a "Motor Vehicle" and as such, can NOT be reported stolen, you might as well have set it on fire, if it is stolen, it is GONE forever, you would have a very hard time retrieving it even if you find it! :(

It is a very good system, also the whole registration process. After all, they have to keep track of more license plate numbers than anywhere in the entire WORLD! There are still active Yellow on Black plates originally registered to cars up to 1969, when the Yellow on Blue came out and those are also still in service as 6 digit and 7 digit as well as the current Dark Blue on White in many series, plus Personalized, year of Manufacture, Historical Vehicle and Horseless Carriage plates. :)
Not to mention that there are also more cars than any State, the last I heard. [:0]

StudeRich -Studebakers Northwest Ferndale, WA

Shawn
02-03-2008, 07:45 PM
Ah, if I only had a job right now, that would be the perfect car to start my R3 Lark I want to build.

Former owner/owner with Dad:
58 Packard Golden Hawk
62 Hawk
62 Lark
63 Lark
64 Lark
63 Champ
Currently I own:
84 Mercedes 380SL
92 Range Rover (for sale)
99 BMW 323I
and helping a 16 year old rebuild an 86 Saab 900

Lakeland, FL

Shawn
02-03-2008, 07:45 PM
Ah, if I only had a job right now, that would be the perfect car to start my R3 Lark I want to build.

Former owner/owner with Dad:
58 Packard Golden Hawk
62 Hawk
62 Lark
63 Lark
64 Lark
63 Champ
Currently I own:
84 Mercedes 380SL
92 Range Rover (for sale)
99 BMW 323I
and helping a 16 year old rebuild an 86 Saab 900

Lakeland, FL

Dick Steinkamp
02-04-2008, 10:29 PM
He states that DAS can transport it from California to the east coast for $500-600. Somebody should take him up on that [:0]. My guess is that it would be about 3-4 times that.

It does look like a nice car, however.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
02-04-2008, 10:29 PM
He states that DAS can transport it from California to the east coast for $500-600. Somebody should take him up on that [:0]. My guess is that it would be about 3-4 times that.

It does look like a nice car, however.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

JDP
02-04-2008, 10:56 PM
I can bring a car coast to coast for a grand.

JDP/Maryland
63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
spent to date $54664,75
64 R2 GT (Sid)
spent to date $62,839.60
63 Lark 2 door
57 wagon
51 Commander
39 Coupe express
39 Coupe express (rod)

JDP
02-04-2008, 10:56 PM
I can bring a car coast to coast for a grand.

JDP/Maryland
63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
spent to date $54664,75
64 R2 GT (Sid)
spent to date $62,839.60
63 Lark 2 door
57 wagon
51 Commander
39 Coupe express
39 Coupe express (rod)

Anne F. Goodman
02-04-2008, 11:23 PM
I can deliver the car to the DAS shipping terminal here in Fresno, they can ship a car to the midwest or eastern states for very reasonable prices (about $500-$650). http://www.dasautoshippers.com/
Maybe they can I know of someone that shipped from here to Michigan for under $600.

Mabel 1949 Champion
1957 Silverhawk
1955 Champion 4Dr.Regal
Gus 1958 Transtar
1955 President State
Fresno,Ca
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/Mabel.jpg?t=1165475035http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/xmasannecopy.jpghttp://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/GusMater.jpg

Anne F. Goodman
02-04-2008, 11:23 PM
I can deliver the car to the DAS shipping terminal here in Fresno, they can ship a car to the midwest or eastern states for very reasonable prices (about $500-$650). http://www.dasautoshippers.com/
Maybe they can I know of someone that shipped from here to Michigan for under $600.

Mabel 1949 Champion
1957 Silverhawk
1955 Champion 4Dr.Regal
Gus 1958 Transtar
1955 President State
Fresno,Ca
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/Mabel.jpg?t=1165475035http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/xmasannecopy.jpghttp://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/GusMater.jpg

bams50
02-04-2008, 11:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

He states that DAS can transport it from California to the east coast for $500-600. Somebody should take him up on that [:0]. My guess is that it would be about 3-4 times that.



Just for comparison purposes, the Lark I bought from you almost exactly a year ago cost $1250 from WA to NY, door to door, by Peg's.

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

bams50
02-04-2008, 11:26 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

He states that DAS can transport it from California to the east coast for $500-600. Somebody should take him up on that [:0]. My guess is that it would be about 3-4 times that.



Just for comparison purposes, the Lark I bought from you almost exactly a year ago cost $1250 from WA to NY, door to door, by Peg's.

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

Dick Steinkamp
02-05-2008, 09:33 AM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

He states that DAS can transport it from California to the east coast for $500-600. Somebody should take him up on that [:0]. My guess is that it would be about 3-4 times that.

It does look like a nice car, however.


OK, I stand corrected [:I].

Now I REALLY can't understand why ANYBODY buys a rusty eastern car. For $500 bucks more (transport) you can save thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
02-05-2008, 09:33 AM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp

He states that DAS can transport it from California to the east coast for $500-600. Somebody should take him up on that [:0]. My guess is that it would be about 3-4 times that.

It does look like a nice car, however.


OK, I stand corrected [:I].

Now I REALLY can't understand why ANYBODY buys a rusty eastern car. For $500 bucks more (transport) you can save thousands of dollars and hundreds of hours.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

bams50
02-05-2008, 11:08 AM
Dick- As I've said in the past, there's plenty if reason to buy cars on this end of the country. Your statement assumes any car out here has been exposed to salty roads; not always the case! There are cars that have always been garaged , cars tranplanted from other areas, etc. The 59 Lark I got from JP has less rust than my CA wagon- and it's from Maryland!

Another reason: What if you want a cheaper car? $12-1500 added to a $15k car isn't a big deal, but it kills a $500 car...

I will not hesitate to buy from the West and pay for shipping if I really want a specific car; but I don't seem to have much trouble finding solid stuff here:)

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

bams50
02-05-2008, 11:08 AM
Dick- As I've said in the past, there's plenty if reason to buy cars on this end of the country. Your statement assumes any car out here has been exposed to salty roads; not always the case! There are cars that have always been garaged , cars tranplanted from other areas, etc. The 59 Lark I got from JP has less rust than my CA wagon- and it's from Maryland!

Another reason: What if you want a cheaper car? $12-1500 added to a $15k car isn't a big deal, but it kills a $500 car...

I will not hesitate to buy from the West and pay for shipping if I really want a specific car; but I don't seem to have much trouble finding solid stuff here:)

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

Dick Steinkamp
02-05-2008, 07:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

Dick- As I've said in the past, there's plenty if reason to buy cars on this end of the country. Your statement assumes any car out here has been exposed to salty roads; not always the case! There are cars that have always been garaged , cars tranplanted from other areas, etc. The 59 Lark I got from JP has less rust than my CA wagon- and it's from Maryland!

Another reason: What if you want a cheaper car? $12-1500 added to a $15k car isn't a big deal, but it kills a $500 car...

I will not hesitate to buy from the West and pay for shipping if I really want a specific car; but I don't seem to have much trouble finding solid stuff here:)



I agree that ALL eastern cars aren't rusty...but the rust free eastern cars seem to be few and far between. If you can't find the rust free Stude of your dreams east of the Rockies, paying the $500 shipping for one in the west seems like good investment.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

Dick Steinkamp
02-05-2008, 07:24 PM
quote:Originally posted by bams50

Dick- As I've said in the past, there's plenty if reason to buy cars on this end of the country. Your statement assumes any car out here has been exposed to salty roads; not always the case! There are cars that have always been garaged , cars tranplanted from other areas, etc. The 59 Lark I got from JP has less rust than my CA wagon- and it's from Maryland!

Another reason: What if you want a cheaper car? $12-1500 added to a $15k car isn't a big deal, but it kills a $500 car...

I will not hesitate to buy from the West and pay for shipping if I really want a specific car; but I don't seem to have much trouble finding solid stuff here:)



I agree that ALL eastern cars aren't rusty...but the rust free eastern cars seem to be few and far between. If you can't find the rust free Stude of your dreams east of the Rockies, paying the $500 shipping for one in the west seems like good investment.

http://i149.photobucket.com/albums/s66/ddstnkmp/54%20starlight/HiResS2Dsig2.jpg

PlainBrownR2
02-05-2008, 07:37 PM
By this logic the local club show winners in the Chicago area are not much more than rolling works of swiss cheese and that nobody(running or not) stores their vehicle in any type of fashion in a garage or pole barn.


1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]

PlainBrownR2
02-05-2008, 07:37 PM
By this logic the local club show winners in the Chicago area are not much more than rolling works of swiss cheese and that nobody(running or not) stores their vehicle in any type of fashion in a garage or pole barn.


1964 Studebaker Commander R2 clone
1950 Studebaker 2R5 with 170 turbocharged
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00003.jpg?t=1171152673[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00009.jpg?t=1171153019[/img=right]
[img=left]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00002.jpg?t=1171153180[/img=left]
[img=right]http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t102/PlainBrownR2/DSC00005.jpg?t=1171153370[/img=right]

bams50
02-05-2008, 07:40 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp


quote:Originally posted by bams50



Another reason: What if you want a cheaper car? $12-1500 added to a $15k car isn't a big deal, but it kills a $500 car..


If you can't find the rust free Stude of your dreams east of the Rockies, paying the $500 shipping for one in the west seems like good investment.



You misspoke on that, Dick- I was referring to the shipping cost putting a car with a price of $500 out of range;)

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

bams50
02-05-2008, 07:40 PM
quote:Originally posted by Dick Steinkamp


quote:Originally posted by bams50



Another reason: What if you want a cheaper car? $12-1500 added to a $15k car isn't a big deal, but it kills a $500 car..


If you can't find the rust free Stude of your dreams east of the Rockies, paying the $500 shipping for one in the west seems like good investment.



You misspoke on that, Dick- I was referring to the shipping cost putting a car with a price of $500 out of range;)

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131