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Alan
05-09-2018, 01:47 PM
I have seen a number of R2 engines over the years, all had different colors on the blocks. The only thing they had in common was the Damp proof red primer inside the block. What color did they come with from the factory?

acolds
05-09-2018, 02:50 PM
glyptal was used by a lot of companies (an old method , material is expensive) to seal the inside surface of iron castings to ensure smooth flow of oil and to ensure no loose sand or grit in the casting can contaminate the oil. Westinghouse used it in side bearing and gearbox housing for more than forty years I know of. All Studebaker motors I have had apart were coated inside with what appeared to be the same material. Also used as a coating for motor and generator coils on large electrical equipment heavy industry motor and generators

lschuc
05-09-2018, 03:03 PM
Aside from the the inside colors of the engine, 289 and 259 engines, from about 1958 and newer, including R1 and R2, had blocks and cylinder heads painted black. Most external parts were also painted black, including the oil pan, breather tube, intake, water manifold and pulleys, starter, fuel pump and distributor housing, bellhousing and transmission.

Studebakercenteroforegon
05-09-2018, 03:26 PM
Aside from the the inside colors of the engine, 289 and 259 engines, from about 1958 and newer, including R1 and R2, had blocks and cylinder heads painted black. Most external parts were also painted black, including the oil pan, breather tube, intake, water manifold and pulleys, starter, fuel pump and distributor housing, bellhousing and transmission.

1958 through 1961 blocks and related parts were painted aluminum. 1962 and later were black.

SScopelli
05-09-2018, 04:24 PM
An R2 Block in the making. Black with Glyptal coating.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/904/27119527187_82278657f9_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/HjsEAX)

This R2 block was Red, however, it was bored 0.060 over so, it most likely was repainted.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4327/35884232046_fdba0c5ee1_z.jpg (https://flic.kr/p/WEY4ZY)

StudeRich
05-10-2018, 01:38 AM
Just plain 'Ol BLACK like all '62 to '66 Stude. Complete Engines were, with the exception of the R3 and R4's.

Since they were Painted Complete, ALL the Major Parts Fan to Trans. Tail that were installed, were Engine Color due to the Method used.

bensherb
05-10-2018, 05:33 AM
I've seen many R series engines with chrome valley pans, some with painted. Were they able to change them out for chrome after painting without removing the intake, or was the intake painted seperately and added later? Removing the rocker covers to install the chrome ones would be easy. Is there a reason some valley pans are chrome and some are not, is either correct?

64studeavanti
05-10-2018, 06:31 AM
Early Avantis had chrome, later were painted black. I will check to see when.

StudeRich
05-10-2018, 12:10 PM
Some people have actually found their original Lifter Cover had Black Engine enamel OVER Chrome! :ohmy:

Presumably, that was after the change to painted, and some of the left over Chrome ones got painted. :confused:

lark55
05-11-2018, 11:00 PM
I have both the original R1 engine that came out of my 63 Avanti, which is painted black, and an R2 that came out of a wrecked Avanti that is painted red. The R2 engine was bought in 1967 and was red when I bought it. Both engines have the chrome valley cover.

StudeRich
05-12-2018, 01:41 AM
I have both the original R1 engine that came out of my 63 Avanti, which is painted black, and an R2 that came out of a wrecked Avanti that is painted red. The R2 engine was bought in 1967 and was red when I bought it. Both engines have the chrome valley cover.

Non Black Engines like this were not that way from the Factory, just a rebuild. overhaul Valve Grind etc.

Hawklover
05-12-2018, 09:49 AM
It was a matter of cost savings, chrome was cut back towards the end of production....just like the carpet choices
I've seen many R series engines with chrome valley pans, some with painted. Were they able to change them out for chrome after painting without removing the intake, or was the intake painted seperately and added later? Removing the rocker covers to install the chrome ones would be easy. Is there a reason some valley pans are chrome and some are not, is either correct?

lark55
05-12-2018, 01:21 PM
As I remember the wrecked Avanti had about 44,000 miles on it. I don't think it was rebuilt, but who knows? I have never opened it up to see.

Jeffry Cassel
05-13-2018, 03:24 PM
Do not think I would dare to paint anything on the inside of the block; I'd have nighmares about the stuff flaking off. The block is pretty shiney black

tsenecal
05-13-2018, 07:35 PM
I used Glyptal when I rebuilt the 289 for my Hawk. I did consider the fact that it could come loose, but that is what it is designed for. The factory must have used it, or something similar, and it was still in there. It's still available.https://www.eastwood.com/glyptal-red-enamel.html

drrotor
05-14-2018, 08:44 AM
Packard Golden Hawk engines: Glyptal inside?