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55 56 PREZ 4D
04-11-2018, 03:23 PM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/FUEL-PUMP-STUDEBAKER-V8-President-Champ-Commander-Lark-Hawk-Golden-Silver-Hawk/310978090829?_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.DEFA

Spectra brand name.
Has anyone had experience with this brand fuel pump?
Are they good, bad ?
Rebranded Airtex ?

StudeRich
04-11-2018, 05:06 PM
It's the same Airtex you can get from Airtex, Hastings, NAPA, a Studebaker Vendor, Master and also Carter was selling these Non-Carter Pumps until recently. They work "OK", especially for a Backup, Spare.

A Rebuilt with Ethanol resistant parts, OEM Carter is still the best.

UPDATE: here is a better one, a last year's stock Airtex by Carter.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/FUEL-PUMP-STUDEBAKER-V8-1955-1956-1957-1958-1959-1960-1961-1962-1963-1964/311946192616?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D44040%26me id%3D5fa7a5c80e7e45a5b493ed1cfb99870a%26pid%3D100623%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D3 10978090829%26itm%3D311946192616&_trksid=p2047675.c100623.m-1

altair
04-11-2018, 06:59 PM
7168471685These pumps can be configured in several ways and they all fit the 259 and 289, however only the stubby one will clear the steering. I would say the one displayed on ebay is an Airtex, not the best but OK. The model I have is 4227 and is an Airtex. When you compare an Airtex to a Carter the Carter pump is considerably heaver and the casting is much heavier. I prefer the Carter but sometimes you have to take what you can get

57pack
04-11-2018, 10:13 PM
I spent 47 years in the aftermarket auto parts industry, selling and representing many different fuel pump manufacturers. The best fuel pumps manufacturers were Carter, Autolite, and the old AC Delco brand. Fewest come backs and warranty issues.

Lynn
04-11-2018, 10:36 PM
I have no idea if that is an Airtex. Most of the Airtex are not the rebuildable types like this one.
The last two Airtex pumps I bought had way too high fuel pressure. One was 10 psi, the other almost 12.
Being sealed and non rebuildable, I could not take it apart and replace the spring to correct the pressure.

They both overwhelmed the carbs and caused flooding.

I would prefer to find a Carter. I don't know how you confirm that it is made by the same maker as Airtex. I do know Spectra makes a very good gas tank. Made in Canada.

Bud
04-12-2018, 08:34 AM
Summit Racing has the Carter M 2211 pumps for Studebaker V8 engines and the price is under 50 bucks. I just bought three of them a few weeks ago. Summit also has free shipping for orders over $100. Bud

rkapteyn
04-12-2018, 08:45 AM
71690Your best bet would be buying a original rebuild Carter pump from Phil Harris at Fairborn Studebaker http://fairbornstudebaker.com/WP/
Good guy to deal with!

StudeRich
04-12-2018, 11:52 AM
I have no idea if that is an Airtex. Most of the Airtex are not the rebuildable types like this one.
/Cut/I would prefer to find a Carter. I don't know how you confirm that it is made by the same maker as Airtex. I do know Spectra makes a very good gas tank. Made in Canada.

The Pump in Post #1 IS at least an AC Copy Airtex TYPE, and very likely IS an Airtex.

The Airtex Fuel pumps for Studebakers are ALL re-buildable type with screws holding the half's together, the "Crimped" together type are NOT for Studebakers.

JoeHall
04-12-2018, 01:53 PM
Why not run a modified MOPAR 318 pump, available from some of our favorite vendors, i.e. Phil Harris?

StudeRich
04-12-2018, 02:57 PM
The converted Chrysler for Avantis and Jet Thrust Engine Pumps are also VERY good Real Carter Super Pumps with more Gallons per Minute than Std. V8's and also work on Standard V8's, best with an AFB or Edelbrock 4 Brl. clone though.

TX Rebel
04-12-2018, 11:54 PM
The higher pressure Airtex pumps would seem like a good choice for application using Mopar fuel filter with fuel t=return line to prevent vapor lock.

rkapteyn
04-15-2018, 12:00 PM
In 1963-64 Studebaker used a different frame engine bracket on all cars to provide clearance for the larger "R" series pumps.
A torch and large hammer can convert the older frame mounts on the drivers side
LHC.
In researching this I found this interesting article.

https://www.revolvy.com/main/index.php?s=Studebaker%20Lark&item_type=topic

Robert Kapteyn

GrumpyOne
04-15-2018, 02:03 PM
7168471685These pumps can be configured in several ways and they all fit the 259 and 289, however only the stubby one will clear the steering. I would say the one displayed on ebay is an Airtex, not the best but OK. The model I have is 4227 and is an Airtex. When you compare an Airtex to a Carter the Carter pump is considerably heaver and the casting is much heavier. I prefer the Carter but sometimes you have to take what you can get

I have one like the one in the far left of your picture. It was on my Power Hawk for quite a number of years and still has some of the '56 engine paint on it and this was well before the junk gas era that we are now in. I wonder if there is a way to rebuild it with modern alcohol resistant rubber parts...

55 56 PREZ 4D
04-15-2018, 10:38 PM
http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?95963-V8-Fuel-Pump-alternative
There is also the Lark style pump as shown in pictures 2 and 3 on Post #27 of this thread.

StudeRich
04-16-2018, 02:01 AM
I have one like the one in the far left of your picture. It was on my Power Hawk for quite a number of years and still has some of the '56 engine paint on it/Cut/

If you look closer at your pump you should find that either it more closely resembles Post #27 Pic. #2 here: http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?95963-V8-Fuel-Pump-alternative

OR, it is an AC Pump like you originally thought it was, as in Post #3 here and HAS been replaced sometime in it's 61 Year Life, because ONLY Carters as shown in my older Post from 2016 were used OEM. :ohmy: