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TWChamp
04-09-2018, 07:34 PM
The only top hose I could find for a 1950 Commander was this NOS one on ebay, and it's not as soft as the seller said, so I won't use it.
I took it to AutoZone, and so far this E71617 hose is the best match I could find. Anyone know of a better match? Thanks, Tom

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bezhawk
04-09-2018, 08:39 PM
I may have something. What is the inside diameter? I got a lot of hoses, but 1/2 are just to compare to buy new softer stuff. Like, where are you going to find a top hose for a 58 Packard Hawk with AC....I have one.

jerezstude
04-09-2018, 09:13 PM
I have spent a great deal of time looking for a replacement top hose for the 50 commander with little success. If anyone knows of a replacement I would also like to know of the application.

Jerry Kurtz

jts359
04-09-2018, 09:30 PM
Got any marine engine shops near by , Try mercruiser or Volvo penta, They have various sizes and shapes , Ed

TWChamp
04-09-2018, 10:20 PM
The inside diameter is 1 1/4". If I measure through the center of the hose to the middle of the curve, it's 10" on the long end and 7 1/2" on the shorter end.

The hose I bought is a Dayco, and is soft enough the bend and cut the end for a good fit, but I'll keep looking for an even better fit.

raoul5788
04-09-2018, 10:46 PM
I bought one from Advance Auto last year that's for another application, just cut off some. I don't remember the number, but I'll check with them tomorrow to find out.

TWChamp
04-10-2018, 01:44 AM
Here is a picture of a Gates hose that looks like a good fit, but I can't read the number on it.
I wonder why the brace rod is touching the hose though. I have another picture to compare clearance for the brace rod.

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cstude1
04-10-2018, 12:13 PM
See https://www.studebakerparts.com/ part# HSE014H
Chuck

TWChamp
04-10-2018, 06:04 PM
See https://www.studebakerparts.com/ part# HSE014H
Chuck

The picture square is blank, so I take that to mean it's not available, or if it's available, it's a universal flex hose.

mbstude
04-10-2018, 06:11 PM
The picture square is blank, so I take that to mean it's not available, or if it's available, it's a universal flex hose.

Yes, it’s available from the Stude vendors. It is a “trim to fit” hose. It is not a flex hose.

raoul5788
04-10-2018, 06:46 PM
Unfortunately I took the label off the hose I bought and the store doesn't have a record of my purchase, must have paid with cash. However, I found another one that should be a good fit, a Dayco E71704. It's for a 1996 Cadillac deVille. Just cut to fit.

RadioRoy
04-10-2018, 08:01 PM
Here is a picture of a Gates hose that looks like a good fit, but I can't read the number on it.
I wonder why the brace rod is touching the hose though. I have another picture to compare clearance for the brace rod.

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If you trim half an inch off the Gates hose on the left, it might clear the brace rod.

TWChamp
04-10-2018, 08:52 PM
Roy, I don't know who's car that is. I still wish I knew about the braces, where they cross. One has a bolt, and one has a clamp like mine.
Also, what is the large round container on the left side of the left picture? Looks like it has a strange square ignition coil also.

RadioRoy
04-10-2018, 09:06 PM
All the ones I have seen have the clamp, like the picture on the right.

The round thing on the left picture is probably an oil injector. Did they call it an inverse oiler? You would attach it to an injector plate installed under the carburetor and the engine would suck in a fine mist of Marvel Mystery oil. Supposedly that would do all sorts of wonders, like keep the rings and cylinders clean, keep carbon from forming in the cylinders, stop knocking, and make your engine last for thousands more miles.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/NOS-Marvel-Mystery-Oil-Inverse-Oiler-Model-TU-2qt-Emerald-Manufacturing-Co/202271631464?hash=item2f18542868:g:fWsAAOSwR29ZLJ9T&vxp=mtr

mbstude
04-11-2018, 09:53 AM
This is what you'll get if you order one from your favorite Studebaker Vendor. I compared a new one to a '50 Commander this morning. The extra length needs to be trimmed off, otherwise it's a perfect fit.

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/796/40673855544_1e870e925e_z.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/793/41388121041_8cee652ec8_z.jpg

https://farm1.staticflickr.com/787/40673852494_e8cba9abf3_z.jpg

unclemiltie
04-11-2018, 10:58 AM
There are over 50 different radiator hoses used on our Studebakers. We are very fortunate to have a supplier whom has taken the time to either find replacements or have them made and to all our vendors whom tie their money up stocking these on their shelves. By supporting our vendors you help to expand this effort to other parts like trim parts and other mechanical items. I personally like to pay a little more and know I am getting a quality part which most likely will outlast me. If we all always tried to find our parts from other sources then we would not have cam timing gears, water pumps, wheel cylinders, headlight bezels etc Just something to think about

TWChamp
04-11-2018, 02:41 PM
Thanks, that hose will be a perfect fit.
I wonder why SI doesn't have it in their catalog, and also said "no luck" when I called about a 50 Commander top hose.

62champ
04-11-2018, 10:30 PM
It is always great to have a FLAPS who will allow you to go behind the counter and pull hoses to see what will work. This is one I ended up with to fit the top end of my 7E7...

https://i.imgur.com/MiesCFyh.jpg

1oldtimer
04-12-2018, 02:58 AM
I've used this way for years to find hoses for motor swaps. Find the gates illustrated guide on line, look up the hose size, look at the pictures and use google to look at a real picture. Then when you get the number look around google for prices (don't forget rockauto has close outs). I found a hose for one of my vehicles that was $80 at Orileys, I found it at rockauto for a closeout of $8.....so I bought 2. Remember you might have to cut to fit, so just find the shape and the length or extra bends won't matter. Download it and save it on your computer

https://www.gates.com/resources/resources-library/catalogs/molded-coolant-hose-identification-guide

TWChamp
04-29-2018, 05:39 PM
I cut about 1 3/4" off each end of the hose I bought in the first post, and installed it on my 50 Land Cruiser today. It looks much better than the flex hose, and fits like it was made for the car.

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