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52-fan
01-28-2008, 06:29 PM
Today is my day off and the weather here was not what the weatherman had promised, but this afternoon it was agreeable enough to try to start the 53 I bought from Studedick. First the good stuff.:D The carburetor looked new inside, not even any stains in the bowl. The plugs, cap, rotor, and points look new except for surface rust on the plugs. The oil and filter looked good. Not what I had expected.
The bad. :( Although the engine will crank over all I get is a loud backfire. Think shotgun under the hood. :0 I tried to check the distributor to see if the plug wires were installed wrong, but they appear to be okay. What's up? Stuck valve? Anybody got any suggestions?
I ran out of time before I could try any more ideas.

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

JDP
01-28-2008, 06:50 PM
Check the timing.

JDP/Maryland
63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
spent to date $54664,75
64 R2 GT (Sid)
spent to date $62,839.60
63 Lark 2 door
57 wagon
51 Commander
39 Coupe express
39 Coupe express (rod)

JDP
01-28-2008, 06:50 PM
Check the timing.

JDP/Maryland
63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
spent to date $54664,75
64 R2 GT (Sid)
spent to date $62,839.60
63 Lark 2 door
57 wagon
51 Commander
39 Coupe express
39 Coupe express (rod)

whacker
01-28-2008, 06:53 PM
Check for distributor installed 180 degrees off.

whacker
01-28-2008, 06:53 PM
Check for distributor installed 180 degrees off.

curt
01-28-2008, 06:57 PM
I think of backfire as poor valves . BUT, could the distributor wires be in place at top dead center on the exhaust stroke????[?]. That would put the cam ( valve opening and closing) out 360 ( or would it be 720 degrees? some one help me here) degrees with the crank shaft.

curt
01-28-2008, 06:57 PM
I think of backfire as poor valves . BUT, could the distributor wires be in place at top dead center on the exhaust stroke????[?]. That would put the cam ( valve opening and closing) out 360 ( or would it be 720 degrees? some one help me here) degrees with the crank shaft.

52-fan
01-28-2008, 07:11 PM
At the point that pressure blew my finger off of the #1 spark plug hole the rotor was pointing to the number 1 wire.
I just remembered. I did not notice any fire or smoke out the carburetor when the car backfired. Exhaust valve stuck open?

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

52-fan
01-28-2008, 07:11 PM
At the point that pressure blew my finger off of the #1 spark plug hole the rotor was pointing to the number 1 wire.
I just remembered. I did not notice any fire or smoke out the carburetor when the car backfired. Exhaust valve stuck open?

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

rockne10
01-28-2008, 07:50 PM
Plug wires mounted for clockwise rotation? Distributor runs counter-clockwise?

rockne10
01-28-2008, 07:50 PM
Plug wires mounted for clockwise rotation? Distributor runs counter-clockwise?

52-fan
01-28-2008, 10:30 PM
I'll have to check. I checked for #1, but since the engine shows signs of someone working on it they might have gotten the rotation wrong. Unfortunately, I have to work outside and with the days being so short by the time I get off from work I have no time during the week. I will probably have to wait until next Monday.[V]

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

52-fan
01-28-2008, 10:30 PM
I'll have to check. I checked for #1, but since the engine shows signs of someone working on it they might have gotten the rotation wrong. Unfortunately, I have to work outside and with the days being so short by the time I get off from work I have no time during the week. I will probably have to wait until next Monday.[V]

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

starlightchamp
01-29-2008, 06:07 PM
Suggest you run a compression check. If an exhaust valve is stuck open, you
will read zero on that cylinder.

starlightchamp
01-29-2008, 06:07 PM
Suggest you run a compression check. If an exhaust valve is stuck open, you
will read zero on that cylinder.

52-fan
01-30-2008, 10:45 AM
I guess I need to find my compression tester. My projects are hampered by the fact that a lot of my tools and supplies are still packed in the boxes they were moved here in almost three years ago. I moved back into my parents old home and there was already lots of stuff here taking up space.

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

52-fan
01-30-2008, 10:45 AM
I guess I need to find my compression tester. My projects are hampered by the fact that a lot of my tools and supplies are still packed in the boxes they were moved here in almost three years ago. I moved back into my parents old home and there was already lots of stuff here taking up space.

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

52-fan
02-05-2008, 09:50 AM
Thought I would post an update. The weather cooperated yesterday (upper 70s :D) and mid afternoon I ran a compression test. The first three cylinders were at 110 lbs or so but #4 showed zero. I pulled the head and, sure enough, the exhaust valve was stuck open. After cranking the engine to where the intake was up, I tapped on the exhaust valve lightly and it popped back down. Next rotation it stayed up, but after tapping it down again everything worked as normal. By the time I got the engine back together it was so dark that I was using my pickups headlights to see what I was doing. I will have to try to start the engine when I can see better.
BTW the cylinders showed no wear. The deeper I get the more it appears that this car may have really had 34,000 miles. Too bad the mice destroyed the interior. What is left of the upholstery looks like it was nice.[V]

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

52-fan
02-05-2008, 09:50 AM
Thought I would post an update. The weather cooperated yesterday (upper 70s :D) and mid afternoon I ran a compression test. The first three cylinders were at 110 lbs or so but #4 showed zero. I pulled the head and, sure enough, the exhaust valve was stuck open. After cranking the engine to where the intake was up, I tapped on the exhaust valve lightly and it popped back down. Next rotation it stayed up, but after tapping it down again everything worked as normal. By the time I got the engine back together it was so dark that I was using my pickups headlights to see what I was doing. I will have to try to start the engine when I can see better.
BTW the cylinders showed no wear. The deeper I get the more it appears that this car may have really had 34,000 miles. Too bad the mice destroyed the interior. What is left of the upholstery looks like it was nice.[V]

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

52-fan
02-12-2008, 10:59 AM
Quick update. The weather cooperated today by not raining as forecast and I had a chance to try to start the engine again. This time I got it to run for a few moments on the gas I poured in. The carb does not seem to be feeding gas, but that's okay since I will most likely use the one Vegas Paul sent me after I change the manifold. The most important thing was no backfire and it had strong oil pressure. Next project will be pulling and cleaning the engine, changing the crank bolts, dialing in the bellhousing, painting everything and installing in my 52. I am tired just thinking about it, but excited too!

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas

52-fan
02-12-2008, 10:59 AM
Quick update. The weather cooperated today by not raining as forecast and I had a chance to try to start the engine again. This time I got it to run for a few moments on the gas I poured in. The carb does not seem to be feeding gas, but that's okay since I will most likely use the one Vegas Paul sent me after I change the manifold. The most important thing was no backfire and it had strong oil pressure. Next project will be pulling and cleaning the engine, changing the crank bolts, dialing in the bellhousing, painting everything and installing in my 52. I am tired just thinking about it, but excited too!

1952 Champion Starlight, 1962 Daytona, 1947 M5. Searcy,Arkansas