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BobPalma
12-23-2017, 09:20 AM
:( No report of how this happened, but my money says it fell off the top tier of a transport. That's because there doesn't appear to be any damage from a frontal or rear-end collision with anything, or that another vehicle hit it at all, for that matter. Even if someone ran off the road and rolled it, you'd think there'd be damage on the LF.

So sad; it looked like a nicely-restored car:

https://eur02.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fabetter.bid%2Fen%2F44687756-1955-studebaker-president&data=02%7C01%7C%7C085055db11e947257a0608d549645260%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435aaaaaaa aaaaa%7C1%7C0%7C636495617570472701&sdata=mOzTjKfo4VAnjiFjOWvjLo2LyqWTib0E3wa4NcLuu04%3D&reserved=0

It's a recently-totaled 1955 Speedster in pink and grey. The link is kinda goofy; the first time I clicked on it, it took forever to load, about two minutes, but did ultimately come up with photos and information. Retry failed and said to try again later! :confused: :QQ: :oops:

So please don't post that the link doesn't work; I can't do anything about it. It did work...once. I don't have any further information. :o

;) :cool: BP

cdn56J
12-23-2017, 09:38 AM
Probably strapped to a car trailer when it rolled?

studegary
12-23-2017, 10:14 AM
The site loaded instantly, including pictures, for me.

It appears to me to have fallen on its left side from some height.

The chassis, interior and most of the chrome/stainless trim (including wheelcovers and correct exhaust extensions) appear to be very good.

Someone with a good '53-'55 K body could make a nice Speedster. The price is currently much less than the value of some of the trim, including grille.

swvalcon
12-23-2017, 10:23 AM
As Gary said buy it, find a rust free 53-55 body and build a Speedster on the cheap.

studegary
12-23-2017, 10:32 AM
As Gary said buy it, find a rust free 53-55 body and build a Speedster on the cheap.

I do think that this would be the best fate for the car. With that said, more money could probably be made by parting it out (if you want to take the time and effort to do that).

EDIT: Hopefully, it will at least get covered to save that expensive interior.

Mike Van Veghten
12-23-2017, 10:53 AM
Back in the early 70's, I was going to Chaffey Collage's (SoCal), "Race Car" class. We were given a brand new 454 El Camino by Chevrolet. The car had fallen off the top of a rail car during the unloading. Luckily, it had fallen almost straight down onto its top. We went to a wreaking yard, picked up a top, swapped tops, new windows, a little fender work, new door frames, and it was drag raced by the school for a few years. Don't now what happened to it after I quit going to the school.

Mike

Mike Sal
12-23-2017, 11:19 AM
I think it may have been a roll over accident while it was on a trailer. Several years ago a good friend was trailering his newly restored 53 Kaiser and suffered almost identical damage. He was using a brand new truck and a borrowed trailer (read he was not used to either) and was traveling too fast in some very windy conditions. The trailer got to wagging & made him lose control. He went off the side of the freeway & everything rolled over upside down, with the trailer on top of the car.
Mike Sal

Buzzard
12-23-2017, 12:08 PM
I agree BP as check out the Corvette in the background with similar damage. There seems to be some surface rust under the flaked off paint probably from poor storage since the accident.
I hope it helps save another restorable car.
Bill

BobPalma
12-23-2017, 12:22 PM
:) Anybody else notice the "repair estimate" on the right-hand side of the information? $65,036.

Everyone will please take note of the battery having remained intact and upright as a result of having the proper battery hold-down in place. :!!: ;) :cool: BP

studegary
12-23-2017, 12:25 PM
:) Anybody else notice the "repair estimate" on the right-hand side of the information? $65,036.

Everyone will please take note of the battery having remained intact and upright as a result of having the proper battery hold-down in place. :!!: ;) :cool: BP

I believe that the "repair estimate" is what the insurance coverage was. It will be paid to the owner since it appears to me to be a total. The insurance company will get the net of the sale.

Yes, I had noticed the six volt battery (in place) and I believe that it also had the correct radiator cap (unusual these days, even on high dollar cars).

BobPalma
12-23-2017, 12:46 PM
:o Further evidence that the car fell off a carrier, rather than rolled, is the condition of the wire wheel caps on the left side of the car. There might be a little damage, at most, to the LF cap.

This suggests that the car fell off a carrier and not directly on the left side. Rather, the point of contact was a little higher on the left side and involved the roof, rather than the tires and wheels. A true roll-over would have damaged those wheel centers, IMHO. ;) :cool: BP

showbizkid
12-23-2017, 01:42 PM
What a shame. It was a beautiful vehicle. While the sheet metal is obviously done, the interior could provide nice donor parts, though.

JoeHall
12-23-2017, 02:22 PM
Looks like a movie stunt car.

Corley
12-23-2017, 03:32 PM
Tornados can cause some pretty weird damage too... Could be that...

BobPalma
12-23-2017, 03:47 PM
Tornados can cause some pretty weird damage too... Could be that...

:!: That's a good point, Corley. :cool: BP

GrumpyOne
12-23-2017, 04:44 PM
I've seen roll over accidents that had very similar damage...

rockne10
12-23-2017, 08:10 PM
Tornados can cause some pretty weird damage too... Could be that...We seldom get those in Pennsylvania, where this Speedster is located.

63t-cab
12-23-2017, 08:14 PM
Though if this did happen while on a Trailer/Carrier, may have been in another State when damaged ?


We seldom get those in Pennsylvania, where this Speedster is located.

Hallabutt
12-24-2017, 12:15 AM
Thanks for posting this! I hope that there is at least one person out there who has one of these, and who has seriously considered restoring it. There is a good $8-10K, in restored parts, and all in one place. So it's not only expensive parts, but the time involved in finding, and restoring them.

I wonder if the car is known to the keeper of the Speedster roster. Can information from the ID's be gotten? There's a story here and I would like to know more.

BobPalma
12-24-2017, 06:08 AM
Thanks for posting this! I hope that there is at least one person out there who has one of these, and who has seriously considered restoring it. There is a good $8-10K, in restored parts, and all in one place. So it's not only expensive parts, but the time involved in finding, and restoring them.

I wonder if the car is known to the keeper of the Speedster roster. Can information from the ID's be gotten? There's a story here and I would like to know more.

:) You're welcome. I wouldn't have known about it except it was forwarded to me by SDCer Pekka Polvinen in Finland, of all things!

You're so right about the parts value, Bill. Geeze, the current bid on the car is only $275! :eek: :ohmy: :cool: BP

DougHolverson
12-24-2017, 07:02 AM
Makes me sad just looking at it. :(

jpepper
12-24-2017, 09:33 AM
The engine and I assume, the driveline appears untouched. The rear end housing and axles might be tweaked a little. The car is probably worth 2K in parts. There does not appear to be much bondo in the body panels telling me that this might be a rust free tub. The floorpan might be very useful to someone building a "K" body. What a shame.

studegary
12-24-2017, 10:18 AM
Notice that it is not technically up for bid yet. It is listed for a "future sale". I guess this is to develop interest.

Hallabutt
12-25-2017, 04:11 AM
Maybe the car is only worth $2K as Jim says, but I respectfully disagree on the value of the individual parts. The show quality front grille pieces are going for $1500>, the remaining small chrome pieces (some of which are virtually unobtainable) should be worth more then $1K, the seats and leather upholstery should be worth $3-4K, then there is the chassis and running gear. In the 70's, when I restored my Speedster, I would have been overjoyed to find something like this. I think that the value really depends on whether one has a dedicated Speedster project.

ed ellis
12-25-2017, 04:54 AM
I have a rust free California K body next door in Maryland. VERY TEMPTING!

BobPalma
12-25-2017, 05:48 AM
I have a rust free California K body next door in Maryland. VERY TEMPTING!

:!!: Go for it, Ed! You da' man! ;) :cool: BP

bensherb
12-25-2017, 04:04 PM
:!!: Go for it, Ed! You da' man! ;) :cool: BP


No kidding, looks ,like a killer deal for parts, the shipping cost makes it a bust out here.

Studebakercenteroforegon
12-25-2017, 04:37 PM
For over a year someone has had an ad on Portland (Oregon) craigslist for a pair of ‘55 Speedster project cars, possibly overpriced at $3500.00 for the pair. With the above damaged car, maybe you could make 2 out of the 3 of them.https://portland.craigslist.org/mlt/cto/d/55-studebaker-speedster/6435310546.html