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lelshaddai
11-17-2017, 03:38 PM
Searched the forum and could not find the answer. What is the correct engine colors on the 53 Commander 232? I am dropping a 289 in it but am trying to keep it looking correct. I have seen black, turquoise, orange........Do valve covers stay yellow? Color of Dg200 trans?

studegary
11-17-2017, 07:19 PM
The engine should be the medium to dark green of old style 30 WT. oil. I use Packard engine green myself.
Black rocker arm covers.

StudeRich
11-17-2017, 08:09 PM
Studebaker Olive Green on everything Fan to Tail of Trans. They did have the Black 4 Bolt Valve Covers and Oil Filler Pipe with the Fuel Pump on the side of it, but I would not quite go there. :(

68643 Here's the correct Olive Color on a Six, it was used on all from '47 to '54.

Most of the C & K Models you see, do not have their Original 232's so are various Colors from newer Models.

bensherb
11-18-2017, 02:59 AM
Studebaker Olive Green on everything Fan to Tail of Trans. They did have the Black 4 Bolt Valve Covers and Oil Filler Pipe with the Fuel Pump on the side of it. :(



The NOS 232 still in the factory crate that I have is exactly as Rich describes.

56GH
11-18-2017, 08:36 AM
My former 1953 Champion coupe engine painting. Commander V-8s were the same color.

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tim333
11-18-2017, 08:42 PM
Rich, your 1st photo example seems to show the fuel pump green also. True?

BRUCESTUDE
11-18-2017, 09:39 PM
'51 Commander:
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StudeRich
11-18-2017, 10:36 PM
Rich, your 1st photo example seems to show the fuel pump green also. True?

NO they were mostly Cad plated (Natural Metal) Color, but sometimes had some varying amount of Engine Enamel overspray usually not totally covered.
Then again it depends on whether you have a High Mounted '51-'54 V8 Pump, a Low mounted '55-'64 V8 Pump or a Six as to HOW much paint hit it!

The bottom line is; they did not intentionally Paint it, if the year model dictated for it to be installed at Paint time, it got some overspray.

68675 Here is an ORIGINAL '57 Commander Engine, but it has a Bare, Aftermarket replacement Airtex Fuel pump. :( You can see how they slightly oversprayed the Valve Cover, even though it had a "Cover" over it.

68676 Here they are on the engine Line, running in New Engines and doing the Hot and Running Valve adjustments with the cut away Valve Covers in place, connected to Water, Fuel and the Exhaust exit system even a Temporary Air Cleaner probably not so much to keep the Engine Clean, but to keep trash like Bolts & Nuts OUT!

These are 1955 to 1957's so one might be yours Tim!

Thanks to Richard Quinn, of course!

lelshaddai
11-19-2017, 11:03 AM
Great information. Is there a Krylon, Rust o leum paint name equivalent that matches the color?

TWChamp
11-19-2017, 12:00 PM
Great information. Is there a Krylon, Rust o leum paint name equivalent that matches the color?

I never found one that I was happy with, so I bought a can from Studebaker International.

52-fan
11-19-2017, 12:01 PM
Great information. Is there a Krylon, Rust o leum paint name equivalent that matches the color?

I have never seen any for the correct green. I would think after all this time someone would have posted info if there was a good match, but you never know. You could look them up on line and see if anything is close enough to investigate in the store.

Skip Lackie
11-20-2017, 08:13 AM
Cadillac (flathead) green is the same color, but won't be any cheaper.

skyway
11-20-2017, 12:04 PM
Bought a really good match once at a model train store; can was marked "Olive Green."
Also, not to be a broken record, but the old Bell (telephone) System green is also correct.

StudeRich
11-20-2017, 01:05 PM
Bought a really good match once at a model train store; can was marked "Olive Green."
Also, not to be a broken record, but the old Bell (telephone) System green is also correct.

And is this paint going to be 600 Degree compatible like Engine Enamel?

Corvanti
11-20-2017, 01:16 PM
the engine paint at SI. spray: #800254 $13.75 per can. quart: #800810 $56.95.

i purchased 2 cans when i painted the 40's engine and a little touch up later on the '51. i still have almost a full can left.

before & after on the '40.

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56GH
11-20-2017, 04:11 PM
Stephen Allen, LLC, purports to have the right engine colors.

skyway
11-20-2017, 05:29 PM
"And is this paint going to be 600 Degree compatible like Engine Enamel?"

Dunno, I've never had anything hold up on the exhaust manifold.

But the jobber mixed DuPont (mebbe Centari but probably just plain ole' DuLux) enamel in Bell System Green seems to be holding up on my Commander 6 block.
And the train store spray paint is still sticking to that same engine's replacement water pump.

All I really know is that I think it's the correct color?

tim333
02-25-2019, 11:13 AM
I just acquired a 53 Starliner that was in a barn since 1997, original engine is green but definitely not olive green like my 52 Landcruiser.

studegary
02-25-2019, 12:13 PM
I just acquired a 53 Starliner that was in a barn since 1997, original engine is green but definitely not olive green like my 52 Landcruiser.

Keep in mind that '53 was already 44 years old when it went into the barn. I do not describe the correct color as "olive green". I call it 30 wt. oil green, like the oil of the 1940s. It is the same as used by other manufacturers, like Packard. I use Packard engine enamel myself.

tim333
02-25-2019, 12:15 PM
I know that from your previous post Gary, just wanted to verify it was supposed to be different that the 51 color.

StudeRich
02-25-2019, 02:58 PM
I know that from your previous post Gary, just wanted to verify it was supposed to be different that the 51 color.

No, '53's were not different, '47 to '54 ALL the same Olive Green.

Many Machine Shops in the Day, would have Kelly Green (close to John Deere Green) Engine Enamel, Ford Blue and Chevy Red/Orange on the shelf for painting Overhaul and Rebuild jobs when finished.

On Driver Cars, no one cared about "Correct".

RadioRoy
02-25-2019, 05:49 PM
No, '53's were not different, '47 to '54 ALL the same Olive Green.

Many Machine Shops in the Day, would have Kelly Green (close to John Deere Green) Engine Enamel, Ford Blue and Chevy Red/Orange on the shelf for painting Overhaul and Rebuild jobs when finished.

On Driver Cars, no one cared about "Correct".

Elgin cams, the machine shop that rebuilt my 51 Champion back in 1974 made a big deal out of the fact that I asked them to repaint it in the correct color green. I even gave them the paint., They were a specialty cam and engine shop and my little Champion was beneath them, apparently. At least they had a house joke about it. Even though they were a specialty cam shop, they ground the quieting ramp off of my number 5 exhaust valve. To this day it still ticks when adjusted to proper clearances. Disappointing then, but funny now. :)