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Pat Dilling
09-22-2017, 11:10 AM
This may have been discussed here before, but I have just become aware of Driven Racing Oil from Joe Gibbs. In particular, their HR series of oil designed for classic muscle cars with flat tappet cams. They have a high zinc content so adding ZDDP in not required. I believe this is superior to using a ZDDP additive with regular oil because the zinc is blended at the time of manufacture and is part of the oil formula and design. The oil is currently on sale at Summit Racing and JEGs for 7.99 a quart.

http://www.drivenracingoil.com/

https://www.summitracing.com/search?SortBy=BestKeywordMatch&SortOrder=Ascending&keyword=Joe%20Gibbs%20HR

DieselJim
09-22-2017, 10:10 PM
VR1 racing oil now has high zinc labeled on the bottle.

jclary
09-22-2017, 10:48 PM
VR1 racing oil now has high zinc labeled on the bottle.

Several years ago, I discussed this with a Penske Fleet manager along with a Valvoline factory Rep. Here's a link to their site that explains their product.

https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq

(https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/racing-oil-faq)Check out the sight. It is worth the read, even if you don't use their brand.

I am sure other brands have comparable products. This is the one I've chosen. Have had good experience, and trust. No mixing or adding required. Within five miles, I have six auto parts stores to buy it right off the shelf.

plee4139
09-23-2017, 05:39 AM
VR1 racing oil now has high zinc labeled on the bottle.

I'm having my engine rebuilt now and the machinist has recommended VR1 or Amsoil. Now I wonder If I had been using it all along would the rebuil have been necessary.

T.J. lavallee
09-23-2017, 12:36 PM
Judging from the cost of a quart of this special blend oil, it would seem to me to be more economical to simply add a can of ZDDP to the crankcase of fresh conventional modern motor oil.

truckguy
09-23-2017, 02:43 PM
Very good information!

GrumpyOne
09-23-2017, 02:49 PM
Judging from the cost of a quart of this special blend oil, it would seem to me to be more economical to simply add a can of ZDDP to the crankcase of fresh conventional modern motor oil.


…or just add a bottle of STP and use on grade lower viscosity of a quality motor oil.

GrumpyOne
09-23-2017, 02:51 PM
Doesn't the old formula Rotella T still have ZDDP as an additive for older diesel engines?

SilverHawkDan
09-23-2017, 09:58 PM
We used the Gibbs oil in our race car for the last three years. After the first year the engine had 11 races on it with most being 20 laps races. When we tore down the engine there was no signs of any scuffing or other issues I see that are oil related. Wear so minimal we were able to reassemble the engine using the same bearings and rings and pistons from the previous year. The bearing clearance which had been about .001 tighter then I prefer was now about half that. That engine ran the second year and made all 12 races and finished all of them without incident. Tear down revealed that the bearings were now ready to be changed but clearance was still within the range I prefer and we also changed out the rings. My personal experience would say this oil does what is says it will. We still use it this the fourth year of racing.
Dan

Corvanti
09-24-2017, 09:15 PM
Doesn't the old formula Rotella T still have ZDDP as an additive for older diesel engines?

as far as i know, it does have ZDDP. i've been using Rotella T in the '51 for the last 5 years, since i purchased her from the late Tom Elliott's wife - with Matthew B. handling the sale. prior to that i purchased ZDDP for the '40 from Eastwood.

i wouldn't have a problem switching to Valvoline Racing Oil if it has better protection.

Ron Dame
09-25-2017, 07:23 AM
I'm getting Gibbs at the local petroleum distributor for $3.75 a quart.

This may have been discussed here before, but I have just become aware of Driven Racing Oil from Joe Gibbs. In particular, their HR series of oil designed for classic muscle cars with flat tappet cams. They have a high zinc content so adding ZDDP in not required. I believe this is superior to using a ZDDP additive with regular oil because the zinc is blended at the time of manufacture and is part of the oil formula and design. The oil is currently on sale at Summit Racing and JEGs for 7.99 a quart.

http://www.drivenracingoil.com/

https://www.summitracing.com/search?SortBy=BestKeywordMatch&SortOrder=Ascending&keyword=Joe%20Gibbs%20HR