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altair
09-20-2017, 03:19 PM
I have watched some TV restoration shows and I wonder where some of these clowns come from. One guy was restoring the front end of a FWD truck knuckles and seals reassembled the unit only to find that there was still a serious leak, after disassembly again, the brake cylinder was leaking a drip a second shouldn't he have seen this before?

On another show they were trying to start an old Cad just after they had reassembled the ignition, with a big display of man power and count down they turned the key with anticipation and it backfired through the carb and out the exhaust. Obviously the distributor was out 180 degrees, shouldn't they at this level have determined this before hand?

Most of the shows are good but there are some questionable ones also.

tsenecal
09-20-2017, 03:51 PM
I agree with you. some of them are good, and some have some questionable work, and excess drama. I'm going to miss Ed, on Wheeler Dealers. He is gone for the next season, but maybe the new guy will be as good. I like Bitchin Rides, because they seem to do really quality work, with a little fun added in.

brngarage
09-20-2017, 05:03 PM
Tom, I concur with you about Bitchin' Rides. Also, I have seen some of their cars in person (at SEMA) and they are REALLY well done.

Commander Eddie
09-20-2017, 05:13 PM
I hope Edd China from Wheeler Dealers finds his way back on the air. His knowledge, problems solving skills and ability to explain things was wonderful. I learned more from that show than any of the others. There was not a lot of drama and some of the out takes at the end of the show were hilarious. Most of the rest of the shows have too much drama and angst and not enough coverage of the actual work being done. And one show features an business owner that has peculiar taste in shirts. He shall go unnamed.

packard352
09-20-2017, 05:32 PM
tsenecal, don't fret... the guy (Ant) who has replaced Ed China is every bit as good... and actually far more knowledgeable, particularly in respect of restoration work. Be patient and enjoy when you eventually get to and listen to Ant taking you through restoration issues. Ant's style is different, but very engaging... and a former 'copper' (policeman) in his younger days.

StudeRich
09-20-2017, 06:29 PM
I guess the Wheeler Dealer Show opinions vary as to WHERE you are from.
Those two guys drive me nuts just having to listen to that barely understandable lingo. :rolleyes:

tsenecal
09-20-2017, 07:25 PM
Good to hear about the new guy, Ant. Should be catching a new episode soon. The accents are a bit hard to understand at times, but I enjoy the show.

creegster
09-20-2017, 07:34 PM
I dont know if I agree: when they make mistakes, they seem like mistakes that a shadetree mechanic might also make. Im not saying they do it on purpose, but Im pretty sure most mechanics make mistakes or have to go back and re-do something on occasion.

GrumpyOne
09-20-2017, 09:50 PM
All of these show are scripted and very little is "reality." With that said, take everything with a grain of salt.

I do like Phantom Works, the restoration shop in Canada with the older mechanic who loves Studes and the live auctions..

jclary
09-20-2017, 11:41 PM
Well...I'd watch more of these shows if I wasn't too busy outside messing up, misplacing things, and busting knuckles in my own shop.:lol: Then, by the time I stagger into the house, I'm too tired to get caught up in what I have already been doing all day.:whome: Instead, I'll watch a little news, perhaps a ball game, or some lonely sole wandering in the Alaskan wilderness, all alone, with nothing but a gun. That is...'cept for several dozen camera crew folks, and an aircraft for the aerial long shots just to emphasize how isolated the poor guy depicted "on camera" is.:rolleyes:

BRUCESTUDE
09-20-2017, 11:42 PM
Wheeler Dealers has become my favorite car show, mostly due to Ed, who is good at repairs, and explaining what he's doing.

christophe
09-21-2017, 05:18 AM
Here is a sneak preview of the next season where Ant deals with a turbo:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBgaMrXg0zE
I found this well done and interesting but this has already been shown in a previous episode when they visited a specialist.
I miss Edd and I hope he will be back on TV soon.
Nice day to all.

Ron Dame
09-21-2017, 09:25 AM
I hope Ant isn't the same Ant from back on the old alt.autos.studebaker forum... he was.... interesting.


tsenecal, don't fret... the guy (Ant) who has replaced Ed China is every bit as good... and actually far more knowledgeable, particularly in respect of restoration work. Be patient and enjoy when you eventually get to and listen to Ant taking you through restoration issues. Ant's style is different, but very engaging... and a former 'copper' (policeman) in his younger days.

Skybolt
09-21-2017, 02:00 PM
I do like Full Custom Garage with Ian Roussel. I like the no drama and one guy, which is the situation with most of us, doing what he's good at. Some of the projects aren't my cup of tea but his skills are what it's all about.

Len

Corvanti
09-21-2017, 02:37 PM
in no particular order, i like Bitchin Rides, Fantom Works, Restoration Garage, Wheeler Dealers. i don't care for the ones that have built in commercials, but do like Car Fix.

Commander Eddie
09-21-2017, 02:41 PM
Here is a sneak preview of the next season where Ant deals with a turbo:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBgaMrXg0zE
I found this well done and interesting but this has already been shown in a previous episode when they visited a specialist.
I miss Edd and I hope he will be back on TV soon.
Nice day to all.

Now THAT was informative and educational. That is the kind of program I like. If I can't learn something then it is a waste of my time.
Thanks for sharing that clip. I am encouraged that the new season will be as good as before. We just need to get used to a new mechanic. But then, we all know about that one now, don't we!

lumpy
09-21-2017, 10:50 PM
I have a couple of friends who have worked closely with a couple of shows here in CA... entertainment ..but far from reality:lol:

christophe
09-22-2017, 03:52 AM
Now THAT was informative and educational. That is the kind of program I like. If I can't learn something then it is a waste of my time.
Thanks for sharing that clip. I am encouraged that the new season will be as good as before. We just need to get used to a new mechanic. But then, we all know about that one now, don't we!

As Edd said some time before, the 14th season of wheeler dealers has to be good. He did not add "or it will be the last one" but this is the general consensus now. He also said that we might end with two good shows instead of one and that's what I'm hoping for. You are very right, if I can't learn something, this is a waste of my time, too. Nevertheless, I wonder how Ant will deal with the balancing of its turbo after rebuilding it. Wait and see...
Nice day to all.

christophe
09-22-2017, 06:24 AM
I've just found three brake tutorials Edd made for Textar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dEBx6EsTEkg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v62yUm3ItWc
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XqNnqbrqP_8
Interesting but I'm sure glad not to have any modern car!
Edd is speaking a little bit too fast, but I suppose time is of the essence there.
Welcome back, Edd!

swvalcon
09-22-2017, 07:57 AM
I like full custom garage. But most of the shows are just a bunch of clowns trying to restore cars while looking like a bunch of clowns and acting like one.

JRoberts
09-22-2017, 08:54 AM
One of our chapter's members had his GT Hawk gone over at FantomWorks. It was on TV show. He seems satisfied with the work that was done.

Commander Eddie
09-22-2017, 09:50 AM
One of our chapter's members had his GT Hawk gone over at FantomWorks. It was on TV show. He seems satisfied with the work that was done.
I'm sure I saw that episode. They have worked on several Studebakers including a "C" cab truck, an Avanti, and a '50 Commander convertible.
My complaint about that show is they try to cram too much in to each episode. If they concentrated on just one vehicle each episode they could show so much more of the work they do. Covering 2 or more vehicles per episode is a formula that the producers in Hollywood like to use. You see the same thing in soap operas and other tv series'. It works for somethings but I don't think it is all that interesting with automotive shows.

sweetolbob
09-22-2017, 11:08 AM
tsenecal, don't fret... the guy (Ant) who has replaced Ed China is every bit as good... and actually far more knowledgeable, particularly in respect of restoration work. Be patient and enjoy when you eventually get to and listen to Ant taking you through restoration issues. Ant's style is different, but very engaging... and a former 'copper' (policeman) in his younger days.

IIRC, the reason Edd left was the producers were reducing the time/money spent on repairs and fabrication. If that is indeed the case they could replace Edd with Smokey Yunick and it wouldn't interesting. Hope that's not the case.

New shows in October so we'll see.

Bob

Pat Dilling
09-22-2017, 11:27 AM
There are a number of shows I follow and record to selectively binge watch. The thing that gets me is the discovery of some major problem late in the build. In many cases I am thinking "why did they not find that until now?" Did they not fully analyze the vehicle when they started? I generally record Fantomworks, Bitchin' Rides, Chasing Classic Cars, Counts Kustoms, Car Fix and the racing shows. Even though I like Dennis Gage, I have grown weary of My Classic Car because so much of it is commercials.

wdills
09-22-2017, 02:21 PM
I watch them all, but my new favorite is Iron Resurrection, mainly because of Amanda, but they do show a lot of their panel fabrication. Their ability to turn a flat piece of metal into something cool amazes me.

I miss the old Overhaulin shows, back before all of the clowning around and drama. In those early shows they showed a lot more of the work on the car and talked about what they were doing and why. I can still pick up a technique now and then by watching these shows. To learn something it is almost better to turn the sound off and watch what they are doing, how they are doing it and what tool they are using to do it.

Firebird61
09-22-2017, 02:32 PM
I've been watching episodes of Shadetree Mechanic on YouTube. Good show of a younger Sam and Dave doing car repairs without any drama, and only 1 minute of introducing new products.

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bensherb
09-22-2017, 02:48 PM
IIRC, the reason Edd left was the producers were reducing the time/money spent on repairs and fabrication. If that is indeed the case they could replace Edd with Smokey Yunick and it wouldn't interesting. Hope that's not the case.

New shows in October so we'll see.

Bob

As far as I'm concerned they could get rid of the other noisy guy and it wouldn't affect the show at all. He's just loud and annoying offering little more than bad comic relief.

stude1964
09-22-2017, 09:36 PM
I did find the episode of Fantomworks doing the '63 GT very interesting I was disappointed that Dan didn't mention anything about the uniqueness of that car. What the heck!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I GT with R-1 power and factory A/C! If it were another make they would comment how rare the options were. Nice ride with the 4 speed as well. Did the floor pans come from Classic? They did a nice job on those as well as the DISC BRAKES and booster. Who did those White Post or Ed Strain? Nice to see the Studes appearing on these shows.
Rob in PA.

Jeffry Cassel
09-25-2017, 02:55 PM
Mathematically its a 50/50 chance when you drop in a distributor it will be correct . SO why is 180 out 90% of the time?? Dan has disparaged Studebakers on previous shows; surprised he allowed on in his shop.

wittsend
09-25-2017, 03:54 PM
If one reads the account of Graveyard Carz you would understand the reason for the antics. Apparently Mark Worman did a pilot episode to document the restoration of a car people were accusing him of VIN swapping. This was done with film school students. Afterwards it was decided it might make a TV Show. When it was reviewed at the Channel they were pitching it to they were told it needed drama. Worman then watched Orange County Choppers and replicated the antics one saw there.

While I'm sure Worman is likely a bit of an obnoxious Jokester in real life he takes it over the top to appease those who put the show on the air. You can't say the things they say on these "Reality" shows without getting sued for violating all kinds of laws today. Well..., that is unless the people on the show are hired as ACTORS (even if they are truly mechanics) and that says it all right there.

Commander Eddie
09-25-2017, 04:04 PM
And I think most car people are less interested in the drama than in learning things they can use in working on their own vehicles. If I want drama I'll watch regular old TV shows.

Corvanti
09-25-2017, 04:12 PM
Even though I like Dennis Gage, I have grown weary of My Classic Car because so much of it is commercials.

i DVR most everything i watch, i usually fast forward thru the "built in commercials". with My Classic Car, i usually FF thru the second segment. it seems like there are 4 or 5 guys that he uses for the season. i will watch the Autogeek guy though and his fairly new show.

RDWEAVER
09-25-2017, 04:49 PM
Mathematically its a 50/50 chance when you drop in a distributor it will be correct . SO why is 180 out 90% of the time?? Dan has disparaged Studebakers on previous shows; surprised he allowed on in his shop.

50/50/ chance if you don't take the time to remove the valve cover and note the #6 intake opening. If you do, then it's always a sure bet. I have not been wrong since I was taught the proper way. But I agree, for a TV show you would have to think they would edit this out so at least they look like they know what they are doing. Maybe not.

PeterHawk
09-26-2017, 06:29 AM
Speaking of YouTube, has anybody watched Pete's Garage on YouTube?

altair
09-27-2017, 12:32 AM
If you set the engine up with #1 at TDC and trace the wire back your chances will be 100%. I have never had a distributor 180 degrees out. If the cap is prewired just set the cap on and see where the rotor is pointing and trace that wire back. If it is not prewired, where the rotor is pointing will be #1. I have just explained this to my 15 year old grandson and he can do it now. In school the teacher was going to introduce the students to a timing light, I just took it one step further, back.

Firebird61
09-28-2017, 11:19 AM
Tech Garage, which alternates its time slot with the new Motorhead Garage, is a good show.