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jg61hawk
09-12-2017, 09:38 PM
Hey the big National is on the West Coast in 2018, and it should be...it needs to move around. The Studie folks up in New England are putting on a Zone Meet June 29-July 1st 2018 at the Holiday Inn Enfield CT. put on by the Nutmeg Chapter. I joined their chapter along with the Atlantic Zone awhile back so I think I can plug this meet.

Imagine if we all who are looking for a summer event, but can't make the National Meet, made this meet a mini national. I'm going. Let's set this thing in motion.

Update: 9-16-17: I didn't join the Nutmeg Chapter, I joined the one Paul Schuffleberg belongs to (which I forget what I did). So if those in the Nutmeg Chapter
think I'm nuts you're right. But I still am plugging your meet.

jts359
09-13-2017, 10:53 AM
I see you got just as many inquiries or replies as I did to our IDYSD post , Ed

Captain Billy
09-13-2017, 01:08 PM
Wait.....sounds like a 'fine idea Ed, not just one from those in Jersey.

jts359
09-13-2017, 02:04 PM
Bill, Its a great idea and we will probably attend and the idea did come from a N.J. member But the local chapters in N.J. need help getting members active and involved. Do you know how many zone and International meets I've gone to over the years to see many N.J. people there. But they do not get involved with the local chapters, Just call me "Just venting again Ed"

Madd Doodler
09-13-2017, 05:19 PM
I like the idea.

stupak
09-13-2017, 08:28 PM
Sounds like a VERY good idea. We would seriously consider attending, from PA. stupak

Lou Van Anne
09-13-2017, 08:46 PM
There was a time when AOAI had a "Western States Meet" annually...(I was the Chairman for the one in '77 here in Stockton)....don't recall if there was also an "Eastern States Meet".

LarkTruck
09-14-2017, 06:52 AM
There was a time when AOAI had a "Western States Meet" annually...(I was the Chairman for the one in '77 here in Stockton)....don't recall if there was also an "Eastern States Meet".

Yes Lou,
There was a joint AOAI Eastern States Meet and SDC Atlantic Zone Meet that I chaired, held in Strasburg Pa. in June 1992. I no longer belong to the AOAI, so I don't know if they still hold ESM's.
JS

Avantidon
09-14-2017, 07:34 AM
Guys you all have great ideas and an Atlantic Zone meet is a fantastic idea as it would act as a great mini International meet. The last one held was in 2011 and it was an AOAI International and an Atlantic Zone meet with over 300 cars present. The problem is a complex one as it takes a Chapter to sponsor the meet and then a team of workers to make it happen. Do we have any volunteers/Chapter to host it. Ed, Jim and I know what it takes to run one of these so who wants to be next and get their chapter to sponsor it?

jts359
09-14-2017, 08:49 AM
Hi Don , Please read my IDYSD posts and post 4 in this thread , There is nobody left , Our past monthly meetings have come down to 4 or 5 members , Ed

Lou Van Anne
09-14-2017, 11:00 AM
Hi Don , Please read my IDYSD posts and post 4 in this thread , There is nobody left , Our past monthly meetings have come down to 4 or 5 members , Ed
Are we a club in decline....?

thunderations
09-14-2017, 11:05 AM
This reminds me of another life I had riding Harley's a hundred years ago. Every year it was gear up and go to Sturgis for Bike Week.
Nearly every area of the country held a local event during that week and it was, with much humor, called: To broke to go to Sturgis week.
Time, distance and resources dictate what we can and can not do most of the time.
Having a casual get-to-gather in other areas is not a bad idea. Call it, again with much humor, The CASO International, or some such thing.
We will miss next years International event in Washington too, due to it falling on the weekend of our 50th wedding anniversary and the wedding of our grand daughter, who graciously asked if it would be OK if they got married on August 31st, our anniversary.
We will be in Las Vegas, baby, having a grand ole party......lol

Lou Van Anne
09-14-2017, 12:44 PM
After thinking about it....aren't Zone Meets kinda like mini national meets?

jg61hawk
09-14-2017, 08:02 PM
Guys you all have great ideas and an Atlantic Zone meet is a fantastic idea as it would act as a great mini International meet.

But my point was the work is already done! The Nutmeg Chapter has already set a Zone Meet up, and the location is easy for all. Location, hotel and dates all done. Just attend.

As for the possible declining interest...I just don't have an ability at this time to commit to something more. I appreciate the work Ed and Laura Jones have done in New Jersey and it's beyond me why the Beachwood meet wasn't wildly attended. Those who missed that missed a great day by the water with a great view and fun, food and cars. I've been to the South Jersey Meet, the Long Island Meet, New England Meets and Nationals along the East Coast. Hopefully in 4 years I can fully retire from all work and really participate in the club.

Avantidon
09-14-2017, 08:06 PM
Ed, I've read your posts and know the frustrations you feel. I know that's why there was no Tom's River meet last year and this as well. We face the same thing on the national level and don't know what the future will bring after 2019 in Mansfield OH. There are no chapters in the Atlantic Zone who will under take the task of a Zone meet with the primary problem being manpower. Most chapters no longer produce newsletters in the AZ as membership is waning. I'll read the rest of your posts.

60ragtop
09-14-2017, 09:29 PM
Ed, I've read your posts and know the frustrations you feel. I know that's why there was no Tom's River meet last year and this as well. We face the same thing on the national level and don't know what the future will bring after 2019 in Mansfield OH. There are no chapters in the Atlantic Zone who will under take the task of a Zone meet with the primary problem being manpower. Most chapters no longer produce newsletters in the AZ as membership is waning. I'll read the rest of your posts.

Don, there are at least four chapters in the AZ that are producing newsletters. We (Delmarva Chapter) have one, as does the Potomac Chapter, the Delaware Valley Chapter, and as far as I know, Keystone Keynotes is still being produced. Not sure about the chapters in VA or NJ. Like Ed Jones and the Garden State chapter, we don't have much turnout at our meetings, but we don't have that many Studebaker owners over here, either. I think we've captured all that we can. We get maybe 5 to 10 out at our meetings, but have a membership of more than 30, some of whom I've never seen. So why, I asked myself, do they pay us $20 a year to belong? The answer seems to be that the newsletter is the glue. I can think of no other reason.

Regarding zone meets, the last one I recall in the AZ was in 2013, a joint one put on by the South Jersey and Gardan State chapters in Cherry Hill, NJ, outside of Philly. It was a nice, well planned meet, and the following year our little old chapter hosted the International at Dover, DE (as you know), despite our limited membership, but with significant support from the host hotel and a dedicated volunteer from the South Jersey chapter. But despite these accomplishments, it is disheartening to see a limited number of people coming out for activities, and I understand completely where Ed is coming from on this. Steve White (Prez of Potomac Chapter) and I have talked a little bit about doing a joint activity but a lot of folks just seem daunted by driving over the Chesapeake Bay Bridge in a 50 plus year old car, so I don't have much hope for anything actually getting off the ground. And it's not like these are problems unique to SDC. On Monday night I attended a meeting of another club I belong to, which is sort of street rod oriented. They had a good turnout but everyone had grey hair, and there was talk of low turnouts for certain events.

So anyway, the Nutmeg Chapter is to be commended for stepping up to do a zone meet next year and I'll look forward to attending.

Lou Van Anne
09-14-2017, 11:24 PM
Could it be that the future is already here.....?

plee4139
09-15-2017, 05:10 AM
The Long Island chapter has a newsletter circulated online. I plan on attending the CT event if I ever get my car back from the engine rebuilder who seems to be working on it at a rather leisurely pace.

jts359
09-15-2017, 02:03 PM
The GSC has a condensed e mail letter that goes out almost every month and we maybe talking to the So. Jersey about joining forces , A meeting may be held next month to discuss this , Ed

RadioRoy
09-15-2017, 02:11 PM
Are we a club in decline....?

I don't know about the club, but I certainly am in decline. :(

Commander Eddie
09-15-2017, 02:22 PM
It's a big country. I think having one in the middle of the country and one on each coast each year would be great. More participation and more fun. Probably more cars too. The only question would be who would organize each one. But that can be solved, I'm sure.

thunderations
09-15-2017, 02:28 PM
I decline to decline, but sometimes this old body has a say in it. What's the old saying, "What I used to do all night now takes me all night to do?"
I don't know about the club, but I certainly am in decline. :(

Avantidon
09-15-2017, 07:54 PM
Frank, I am aware of the newsletters that are produced as I receive electronic copies of yours, Potomac, Greater Va., Central VA, Allegheny, and hard copy of Keynotes. Beyond that I see none from Delaware Valley, South Jersey, GSC or the balance of the VA. chapters. I know some chapters hold events but do it via word of mouth. I totally agree with you that a newsletter is the life blood of a chapter but some just don't do one. Ed's newsletter is a great idea and Ed please put me on your list email only as I don't want to cost you $$$. Del Valley I have asked and I can't even get a list of current officers from them. I also know Bob Dudeck has tried as well. The same goes for the South Jersey Chapter. I also get Kinua's done by Steve Grant. All except Keystone come via email which makes it easier to store for me.

As for AZ Zone Meets you are correct as I failed to mention the combined efforts of GSC and SJ in Cherry Hill. Of course you all did a great job with a small chapter to do the Dover International and it went well. Lots of people stepped up outside of the chapter to assist you and would do it again if necessary. Only if someone would step up and volunteer to run it. Potomac's Fall tour, a three day event, has been planned by Paul and I and we are hoping for at least 30 or so to turnout. I know you've seen the flyer and will see it again soon with some up dated info.

I also commend Nutmeg and wish them great success.

raprice
09-15-2017, 08:27 PM
I like the idea of having a zone meet on the east coast, i.e. the Nutmeg Chapter. I would likely attend the meet. I know there is concern about the declining attendance at car shows. The Studebaker Club is not alone. All car clubs are experiencing declining membership. That's the way it is. Those of us who enjoy going to car meets will continue to do so. I'm 80, and as long as I can drive, I plan to attend car shows and meets. My local chapter, The Long Island Chapter is small, approx. 26 members. Yet we really enjoy being with each other and our size is not a detriment.
We even have our own website.
Rog

studegary
09-15-2017, 09:29 PM
I like the idea of having a zone meet on the east coast, i.e. the Nutmeg Chapter. I would likely attend the meet. I know there is concern about the declining attendance at car shows. The Studebaker Club is not alone. All car clubs are experiencing declining membership. That's the way it is. Those of us who enjoy going to car meets will continue to do so. I'm 80, and as long as I can drive, I plan to attend car shows and meets. My local chapter, The Long Island Chapter is small, approx. 26 members. Yet we really enjoy being with each other and our size is not a detriment.
We even have our own website.
Rog

In the distant past, I used to drive down to Long Island Chapter meetings and events/shows. Now, I would have to be paid a lot to get me to drive down there for anything.

Every SDC Zone is supposed to have an annual Zone Meet. I know that it is hard to get people to do this. I have run dozens of SDC meets, including a Zone Meet. I used to attend all of the Northeast and Atlantic Zone Meets, but those days are gone.

jg61hawk
01-10-2018, 08:49 PM
I called the hotel directly at 860 741 2211 and booked a room for $105.00 per night under the Nutmeg Stude name. Looked on line and the best rate was about 133.00 Just saying.! Didn't get the confirmation yet so who knows but let's keep this thread alive and MAKE THE EAST THE BEAST!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

64V19816
01-11-2018, 09:32 AM
Im one of those guys Ed vents about. Rightly so. Ive owned Studes since 1973, was a club member for years (off and on), but never joined a chapter. Looking back at my old TW...to see (by count) one issue from 1978 has 143 cars for sale, and meets everywhere, even in NJ. Yes this whole thing is fading away. Now, Cherry Hill NJ is like taking a ride to Hell. No one in their right mind will drive a stock 60 year old car on those roads. Of course one issue is that we are old too...plus mostly all the cars are gone. One time here i quipped here that the weight of extant TW magazines now outweighs the combined weight of existing roadworthy Studebakers. ......as to “showing” our cars, Im sure most will agree with me we get most kicks explaining our car to interested folks at the local Wawa , instead of a “car show” where if you dont have a Rat Rod or Chevelle NO ONE even looks at your stock Stude. We should all just consign ourselves that our cars are now a “private passion” and best enjoyed on a quiet country road driving 45 mph and listening to oldies on the AM radio.

64V19816
01-11-2018, 10:18 AM
BTW my Wife drove from south jersey to Warwick RI over the holidays to visit our daughter and it was a 7 hour traffic clogged nightmare. This drive in a new mini that will go 160 mph and she drive throgh CT and didnt hardly get out of first gear

qsanford
01-11-2018, 11:40 AM
BTW my Wife drove from south jersey to Warwick RI over the holidays to visit our daughter and it was a 7 hour traffic clogged nightmare. This drive in a new mini that will go 160 mph and she drive throgh CT and didnt hardly get out of first gear

We have to get that bridge built from Long Island to New Haven! <G>

jts359
01-11-2018, 05:27 PM
Jim, On the 21st of January the GSC is having a Luncheon at 1:00 p.m. If you can attend maybe you could promote the zone meet and even maybe a caravan , I would but Laura and I will be in Florida , Thanks Ed

Avantidon
01-11-2018, 07:23 PM
Ed, reach out to your new Atlantic Zone Director effective April of this year. He is a nearby neighbor and hopefully can be the catalyst to getting a Chapter or chapters to step up and host a mini-International meet in the east like we had in Gettysburg in 2011. I'll PM you the name as it is not yet quite effective.

Hawklover
01-11-2018, 07:40 PM
Peter Crisitello is the "last man standing":-(
Hi Don , Please read my IDYSD posts and post 4 in this thread , There is nobody left , Our past monthly meetings have come down to 4 or 5 members , Ed

PeterHawk
01-11-2018, 08:06 PM
The Northeast Zone is rich in history relative to Zone Meets. The three New England chapters there (Nutmeg, Ocean Bay and Tri Spokes) have a long standing, regular cycle of hosting. New York State was asked to join the cycle for 2019. We are working on that opportunity but it is slow going. As Zone Director I have attended as many of those Zone Meets as I could and absolutely enjoy the camaraderie. This year I hope to attend the Northeast Zone Meet at the end of June as well as the IM in Tacoma at the end August, may even join a westward bound caravan, if one exists. Declining membership is a real issue for SDC and we are exploring new ways of communicating with our members. Our intentions are to not only improve our retention but expand our recruitment.