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53k
01-16-2008, 10:38 AM
Some years ago I volunteered to be the '53 advisor on JP's website. Occasionally I still get questions. A couple weeks ago I got kind of a neat one from an older gent who was curious about '53 Champion gas mileage. He had seen one in '52 at an auto show when he was in the Army in France and had to have one. He bought a coupe when he returned to the US. He sent me this reminiscence today:

"Hi Paul:
Sorry that it has taken me so long to respond to your very imformative letter regarding gas milage for the 53 Studebakers Champions. I did indeed check out the articles that you mentioned and found all of them quite intresting. As I first mentioned that I saw the car at the 1952 Paris Auto show my memory recalls that it was what I called" Tomato Soup Red," and a hardtop. For no know reason when I returned to the States , I prefered the coupe styling. As just for comparising cars at that time I actually test drove a Chevy Corvette, powered by the six cylinder "Blue Flame" truck engine, and was unimpressed.
I receintly found the original order form for my Studebaker, from Brondes Motor Sales, Secor Rd. Toledo Ohio. Listed body type as Club Coupe Regal Champion. Extras and optional Equipment: Radio, heater,white walls and directional signals. Color was Tahoe Green, I had stated no black or red. When I went to pick up the car it was still on a lift and had slipped off one of the supports. There was my dream car listing to one side up about six feet in the air. Not a pleasant feeling, but she came down ok.The price tax was just under $1900.00 plus tax and title. Can't even purchase a parts car for that price today.
One of the special things that I had done to sort of set her apart was to have the radio antenna placed behind the rear window alongside the chrome fender trim, made it look sort of racy. As far as speed, I can remember late one Friday night on one of my many quick trips to Long Island to see a special gal friend, I was stopped by a Pennsy State trooper and questioned as to my speed. I replyed I wasn't sure and was questioned as to what engine was under the hood.I said a six and he made me open the hood. He couldn't believe that a six would push a car over eighty. He was quite impressed and had me follow him to the next rest stop and bought me coffee. Don't happen this day and age.After getting married in 56 my wife enjoyed the car as well, but as all things move forward the "Stude" was replaced with a 1958 Chevy Brookwood Station wagon with a full Corvette engine. This my wife enjoyed even more and loved to "dust off" the then younger hotrodders/
I could go on and on about cars and other stuff, including racing sportscars and up until 3 years ago antique "dirt track" midgets, but maybe another tim.
Once again thanks for your coresondence and friendship, along with Studebaker love."

In his earlier email he explained that his coupe had overdrive.



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'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine
1962 Gravely Model L (Studebaker-Packard serial plate)
1972 Gravely Model 430 (Studebaker name plate, Studebaker Onan engine)

Avantidon
01-16-2008, 12:30 PM
Paul thanks for your post. It is always interesting to see these things. Come join the Keystone Region as we come your way this spring before our big fall blow out. It'd be good to sit and reminiscence some more with others.

See you in the future as I write about our past

Avantidon
01-16-2008, 12:30 PM
Paul thanks for your post. It is always interesting to see these things. Come join the Keystone Region as we come your way this spring before our big fall blow out. It'd be good to sit and reminiscence some more with others.

See you in the future as I write about our past

53k
01-16-2008, 02:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by Avantidon

Paul thanks for your post. It is always interesting to see these things. Come join the Keystone Region as we come your way this spring before our big fall blow out. It'd be good to sit and reminiscence some more with others.

Is this the Cass trip? I may indeed try to meet you all for at least part of it. I had told Dave Eppig I had a bunch of stuff I could give to him, but I never really heard whether it got off the ground or not. I was flattered that Dave, Nancy and Sydney thought enough of our trip to suggest it as a Keystone trip.


[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine
1962 Gravely Model L (Studebaker-Packard serial plate)
1972 Gravely Model 430 (Studebaker name plate, Studebaker Onan engine)

53k
01-16-2008, 02:12 PM
quote:Originally posted by Avantidon

Paul thanks for your post. It is always interesting to see these things. Come join the Keystone Region as we come your way this spring before our big fall blow out. It'd be good to sit and reminiscence some more with others.

Is this the Cass trip? I may indeed try to meet you all for at least part of it. I had told Dave Eppig I had a bunch of stuff I could give to him, but I never really heard whether it got off the ground or not. I was flattered that Dave, Nancy and Sydney thought enough of our trip to suggest it as a Keystone trip.


[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine
1962 Gravely Model L (Studebaker-Packard serial plate)
1972 Gravely Model 430 (Studebaker name plate, Studebaker Onan engine)

ClaymoreWW
01-16-2008, 02:25 PM
Brondes in Toledo still exists! They are a Ford dealer and I clearly remember their TV ads when I was a kid. I have seen billboards and license plate frames within the last few months.

My dad should chime in (or on the Stude dealer thread) as to where he bought his Studebakers in the 50's and where the Stude dealers were in that small remote area of NW Ohio.

--george

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ClaymoreWW
01-16-2008, 02:25 PM
Brondes in Toledo still exists! They are a Ford dealer and I clearly remember their TV ads when I was a kid. I have seen billboards and license plate frames within the last few months.

My dad should chime in (or on the Stude dealer thread) as to where he bought his Studebakers in the 50's and where the Stude dealers were in that small remote area of NW Ohio.

--george

http://www.teamwetworks.com/claymore/larkkey.jpg

tbredehoft
01-16-2008, 03:32 PM
Been there, before you came on board. I only remember Portage Motors, Oak Harbor, OH. They changed hands fairly often. The first Stude I bought was from a prior owner (in 55)who had kept his fully equipped '50 Land Cruiser Demo. I bought it in '55, for $250, but he was out of the business then. A subsequent owner must have had trouble. One day he took a '30s junker off the lot and was seen driving back and forth on a country road, crossing the NYC tracks until he met a train. This would have been in the late '50s.

[img=left]http://www.alink.com/personal/tbredehoft/Bothcars4.jpg[/img=left]
Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'55 President State Sedan (Under Construction) 100 hrs.
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

tbredehoft
01-16-2008, 03:32 PM
Been there, before you came on board. I only remember Portage Motors, Oak Harbor, OH. They changed hands fairly often. The first Stude I bought was from a prior owner (in 55)who had kept his fully equipped '50 Land Cruiser Demo. I bought it in '55, for $250, but he was out of the business then. A subsequent owner must have had trouble. One day he took a '30s junker off the lot and was seen driving back and forth on a country road, crossing the NYC tracks until he met a train. This would have been in the late '50s.

[img=left]http://www.alink.com/personal/tbredehoft/Bothcars4.jpg[/img=left]
Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'55 President State Sedan (Under Construction) 100 hrs.
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana built cars

Frank Starr
01-16-2008, 07:36 PM
One day he took a '30s junker off the lot and was seen driving back and forth on a country road, crossing the NYC tracks until he met a train. This would have been in the late '50s.

Say what????

Frank Starr
01-16-2008, 07:36 PM
One day he took a '30s junker off the lot and was seen driving back and forth on a country road, crossing the NYC tracks until he met a train. This would have been in the late '50s.

Say what????

tbredehoft
01-16-2008, 08:01 PM
He happened to be on the tracks when the Central went through. End of Story.

Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'55 President State sedan (under construction)
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana Cars.

tbredehoft
01-16-2008, 08:01 PM
He happened to be on the tracks when the Central went through. End of Story.

Tom Bredehoft
'53 Commander Coupe
'55 President State sedan (under construction)
'05 Legacy Ltd Wagon
All Indiana Cars.

Frank Starr
01-16-2008, 08:13 PM
Oh, well I thought you meant that he was deliberately trying to meet a train.

Frank Starr
01-16-2008, 08:13 PM
Oh, well I thought you meant that he was deliberately trying to meet a train.

Avantidon
01-17-2008, 07:47 AM
Paul, please send the material to me. I will see Dave in about two weeks in Chambersbur at our Business Meeting and the next week at our Planning Meeting. Those that were on your tour really enjoyed it so we are giong to try to duplicate it. I'll send you my address off line. I personally am looking forward to it. Tourmaster Tom Pand his wife, my sister, are in AZ at the Mesa Meet and Stude Foundation Meet since she is the Secretary.

See you in the future as I write about our past

Avantidon
01-17-2008, 07:47 AM
Paul, please send the material to me. I will see Dave in about two weeks in Chambersbur at our Business Meeting and the next week at our Planning Meeting. Those that were on your tour really enjoyed it so we are giong to try to duplicate it. I'll send you my address off line. I personally am looking forward to it. Tourmaster Tom Pand his wife, my sister, are in AZ at the Mesa Meet and Stude Foundation Meet since she is the Secretary.

See you in the future as I write about our past