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53starliner
07-13-2017, 10:00 AM
I need to paint my 53K. I last did it in Nitrocellulous Lacquer 30 years ago. It is Chippewa Green. Does anyone have a formula or color code for Acrylic Enamel or urethane that is close?

T.J. lavallee
07-13-2017, 11:35 AM
Try Bill Hirsch Auto for a gallon of Nitrocellulous lacquer. This is a common finish for guitar restorations and still available as far as I know.

studegary
07-13-2017, 12:12 PM
I painted a 1953 Commander Starliner with nitrocellulous lacquer 45 years ago. The last that I knew, it was still good. I have also used it on other cars. I believe that there are still places where you can get it.
I believe that you will eventually have a problem if you try modern synthetic paints over it. I would recommend completely removing it rather than painting over it.
Why do you say that you "...need to paint..." the car? A very fine grit wet sand will bring it back if there is any paint left.

53starliner
07-13-2017, 12:24 PM
The paint is cracking. It held up well for 25 years, but the last 5 have seen it deteriorate.

studegary
07-13-2017, 12:49 PM
The paint is cracking. It held up well for 25 years, but the last 5 have seen it deteriorate.

This looks like double the reason that you should strip it down to bare steel.

53starliner
07-13-2017, 12:53 PM
That's my plan...

Jeff_H
07-13-2017, 02:07 PM
Here is my '53 painted with Dupont Centari acrylic enamel in 2001. The paint store was able to mix the Chippewa Green w/o any problems. I would say its spot on.

The roof color Lombard Green posed a bit more challenge. I got a vintage paint chip sheet with Lombard Green on it from a vendor at a swap meet and went through all likely greens in a large dupont chip book I got at a defunct body shop auction and matched up 1971 Dodge truck Pine Green. I had to get that in Mason brand but it is also acrylic enamel. Its extremely close, even in bright sun, maybe a ~hair~ more blueish but you'd have to put 2 samples side by side in bright light to tell.

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I took the top picture in 2007. The 2nd one was taken by Bob Waites in 2010 at BTTF in St Paul.

Somehow I recall that Dupont spun off their auto paint and its under a different brand name now???

sweetolbob
07-13-2017, 05:18 PM
If you have a door jamb or other low exposure area, why not let a paint supplier just do a color match with the color meter? Probably as close or closer than an old formulation with today's materials. Bob

Mrs K Corbin
07-14-2017, 06:39 AM
I dont much care for the base-coat clear-coat stuff they've been using lately..... doesn't hold up at all......

good for the life of a modern car..... on my stude it's bubbling up. and coming off....

The 40 year old acrylic enamel is still there under the primer. Go figure.

Ron Dame
07-14-2017, 06:51 AM
I painted my Champ in 2001 with BC/CC, the truck is not always garaged, so gets a fair amount of sune and acid rain. I am also not faithful in waxing, and yet it is holding up well. Too bad my lack of body skills is showing up.


I dont much care for the base-coat clear-coat stuff they've been using lately..... doesn't hold up at all......

good for the life of a modern car..... on my stude it's bubbling up. and coming off....

The 40 year old acrylic enamel is still there under the primer. Go figure.

SScopelli
07-14-2017, 11:54 AM
click here ==> http://paintref.com/cgi-bin/colorcodedisplay.cgi?manuf=Studebaker&year=1964

They have a great cross reference to the original formulas for Studebaker in multiple brands.:cool:

Jeffry Cassel
07-16-2017, 10:57 AM
Went to Carquest with mine. They called Dupont and came up with the exact paint in Nason acryllic enamel. You need to have a 3M party. Lots of 400 wetordry. some sanding blocks burgers and not too much beer ( dont clear coat)