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Mark57
01-14-2008, 07:09 PM
Gary... I'm hurt! How could you think I would be that shallow to take advantage at this time.[:0] Besides, I would consider other trucks if they have an o/d trans. [}:)]:D

Seriously, I am thinking that an auction would be the surest method to "part" with some of your treasures in a reasonably short time frame. Wish I lived closer.;)

<h5>[b]Mark
'57 Transtar
3E-6/7-122 </h5>
[img]http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/MrGreenJeans1003b.jpg

Mark57
01-14-2008, 07:09 PM
Gary... I'm hurt! How could you think I would be that shallow to take advantage at this time.[:0] Besides, I would consider other trucks if they have an o/d trans. [}:)]:D

Seriously, I am thinking that an auction would be the surest method to "part" with some of your treasures in a reasonably short time frame. Wish I lived closer.;)

<h5>[b]Mark
'57 Transtar
3E-6/7-122 </h5>
[img]http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/MrGreenJeans1003b.jpg

Anne F. Goodman
01-14-2008, 07:16 PM
You get pennies on the Dollar with an auction at your place. How many have we been to lately that sold stuff for really low prices. Ebay seems to be your best bet. Just my opinion.

Mabel 1949 Champion
1957 Silverhawk
1955 Champion 4Dr.Regal
Gus 1958 Transtar
1955 President State
Fresno,Ca
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Anne F. Goodman
01-14-2008, 07:16 PM
You get pennies on the Dollar with an auction at your place. How many have we been to lately that sold stuff for really low prices. Ebay seems to be your best bet. Just my opinion.

Mabel 1949 Champion
1957 Silverhawk
1955 Champion 4Dr.Regal
Gus 1958 Transtar
1955 President State
Fresno,Ca
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/Mabel.jpg?t=1165475035http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/xmasannecopy.jpghttp://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o269/nw3anne/GusMater.jpg

JDP
01-14-2008, 07:20 PM
Noramally, ebay, but the big, unrestored trucks may not do well.

JDP/Maryland
63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
spent to date $54664,75
64 R2 GT (Sid)
spent to date $62,839.60
63 Lark 2 door
51 Commander
39 Coupe express
39 Coupe express (rod)

JDP
01-14-2008, 07:20 PM
Noramally, ebay, but the big, unrestored trucks may not do well.

JDP/Maryland
63 R2 SuperHawk (Caesar)
spent to date $54664,75
64 R2 GT (Sid)
spent to date $62,839.60
63 Lark 2 door
51 Commander
39 Coupe express
39 Coupe express (rod)

Mark57
01-14-2008, 07:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by Anne F. Goodman

You get pennies on the Dollar with an auction at your place. How many have we been to lately that sold stuff for really low prices. Ebay seems to be your best bet. Just my opinion.

Good point Anne! I was thinking of speed ahead of dollars.:(

<h5>[b]Mark
'57 Transtar
3E-6/7-122 </h5>
[img]http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/MrGreenJeans1003b.jpg

Mark57
01-14-2008, 07:21 PM
quote:Originally posted by Anne F. Goodman

You get pennies on the Dollar with an auction at your place. How many have we been to lately that sold stuff for really low prices. Ebay seems to be your best bet. Just my opinion.

Good point Anne! I was thinking of speed ahead of dollars.:(

<h5>[b]Mark
'57 Transtar
3E-6/7-122 </h5>
[img]http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x153/MarkH57/MrGreenJeans1003b.jpg

lstude
01-14-2008, 07:33 PM
I had an auction when I sold my farm in Floyd County. It was a sad day. I practically gave everything away.:(


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Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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lstude
01-14-2008, 07:33 PM
I had an auction when I sold my farm in Floyd County. It was a sad day. I practically gave everything away.:(


http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/Floydauction2.jpg

http://i132.photobucket.com/albums/q8/LHSJR/Floydauctionmachinery.jpg

Leonard Shepherd
http://leonardshepherd.com/

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epssax
01-14-2008, 07:35 PM
Guido--When you have an auction or an item in the newspaper, several hundred may see it. We you do Ebay, several million may see it. My point is made. Ernie in Louisville

epssax
01-14-2008, 07:35 PM
Guido--When you have an auction or an item in the newspaper, several hundred may see it. We you do Ebay, several million may see it. My point is made. Ernie in Louisville

mbstude
01-14-2008, 07:36 PM
Gary, sorry to hear that things have turned out this way. :(
But on a good note, thank you for saving the 4x4 for me. :D

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA
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mbstude
01-14-2008, 07:36 PM
Gary, sorry to hear that things have turned out this way. :(
But on a good note, thank you for saving the 4x4 for me. :D

Matthew Burnette
'59 Scotsman
'63 Daytona
Hazlehurst, GA
http://i81.photobucket.com/albums/j209/mbstude/Scotsman%20pickup/0000_59_truck__avatar_december.jpg

53k
01-14-2008, 07:50 PM
Gary,
I agree that an auction could be very "iffy" and you could take a beating. Your better vehicles might do ok, but the big trucks just have too limited a market. They may even be tough on eBay. I went to a nationally advertised auction in Nebraska a few years ago- a Studebaker-Packard-Saab-Harley auction. The better vehicles brought big money but probably a dozen rust-free, good chrome '55 and '56 Packard parts car sedans sold for $25 each. They had several auctioneers going so I don't know what Harley stuff brought, but I heard it was high. Studebaker "memorabilia" brought big money, but there were many parts bargains (I bought a complete NOS R-3 tach set with the transitor ignition for $35, a NOS Avanti tilt column went for $12.50, etc.). Your tractors would probably do well in a tractor collector auction advertised in club publications though I don't know much about that stuff.
So, you might try eBay for your trucks using low opening bids and little or no reserve. Parts- you might want to advertise as a lot or lots.
Good luck.


[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine
1962 Gravely Model L (Studebaker-Packard serial plate)
1972 Gravely Model 430 (Studebaker name plate, Studebaker Onan engine)

53k
01-14-2008, 07:50 PM
Gary,
I agree that an auction could be very "iffy" and you could take a beating. Your better vehicles might do ok, but the big trucks just have too limited a market. They may even be tough on eBay. I went to a nationally advertised auction in Nebraska a few years ago- a Studebaker-Packard-Saab-Harley auction. The better vehicles brought big money but probably a dozen rust-free, good chrome '55 and '56 Packard parts car sedans sold for $25 each. They had several auctioneers going so I don't know what Harley stuff brought, but I heard it was high. Studebaker "memorabilia" brought big money, but there were many parts bargains (I bought a complete NOS R-3 tach set with the transitor ignition for $35, a NOS Avanti tilt column went for $12.50, etc.). Your tractors would probably do well in a tractor collector auction advertised in club publications though I don't know much about that stuff.
So, you might try eBay for your trucks using low opening bids and little or no reserve. Parts- you might want to advertise as a lot or lots.
Good luck.


[img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/R-4.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64L.JPG[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/64P.jpg[/img=right][img=right]http://www.frontiernet.net/~thejohnsons/Forum%20signature%20pix/53K.jpg[/img=right]Paul Johnson, Wild and Wonderful West Virginia
'53 Commander Starliner (since 1966)
'64 Daytona Wagonaire (original owner)
'64 Daytona Convertible (2006)
Museum R-4 engine
1962 Gravely Model L (Studebaker-Packard serial plate)
1972 Gravely Model 430 (Studebaker name plate, Studebaker Onan engine)

BobPalma
01-14-2008, 07:51 PM
:) Gary: I almost e-mailed you privately about the job situation, out of concern for what you are going through. But I see you've brought it to the forum for discussion. My inquiry was going to be, "How could you possibly liquidate all that stuff?" [?]

[:I] And then I was going to answer my own question: Why move? I don't know that much about your job description, but understood it had something to do with higher-levels of risk management at some type of financial institution. That being the case, can't you possibly find something else nearby that would not require a move? It's not like you live in the middle of nowhere; yours is a heavily-populated area and, gosh, there have got to be jobs around there, I would think [hope]. ('Hope I'm not being too naive, here...)

So maybe you have to take a little pay cut. Given the vastness and variety of your collection, it would sure be difficult (read: expensive) to amass the proper variety of attendees at a commercial auction...although you do have a good pool from which to draw in terms of gross population within a certain mile radius. (I.e, if your collection was 98% Studebaker vehicles, parts, and memorabilia, the job of reaching correct, potential auction bidders would be much easier.)

And doesn't your wife have a good job at the university?

Bottom line: As well rooted (and anchored!) as you are with all your stuff and contacts, and living in as nice an area as you do with folks like Leonard Shepherd around, I'd sure hope you'd not immediately "bail" on that pretty part of the country and the friends/contacts you have. (OK, so I surmised all this with all of 36 hours in the area last October...)

Make lemonade locally, I guess I'd opine.

All the best in any case; this cannot be any fun no matter what you do. :) BP

BobPalma
01-14-2008, 07:51 PM
:) Gary: I almost e-mailed you privately about the job situation, out of concern for what you are going through. But I see you've brought it to the forum for discussion. My inquiry was going to be, "How could you possibly liquidate all that stuff?" [?]

[:I] And then I was going to answer my own question: Why move? I don't know that much about your job description, but understood it had something to do with higher-levels of risk management at some type of financial institution. That being the case, can't you possibly find something else nearby that would not require a move? It's not like you live in the middle of nowhere; yours is a heavily-populated area and, gosh, there have got to be jobs around there, I would think [hope]. ('Hope I'm not being too naive, here...)

So maybe you have to take a little pay cut. Given the vastness and variety of your collection, it would sure be difficult (read: expensive) to amass the proper variety of attendees at a commercial auction...although you do have a good pool from which to draw in terms of gross population within a certain mile radius. (I.e, if your collection was 98% Studebaker vehicles, parts, and memorabilia, the job of reaching correct, potential auction bidders would be much easier.)

And doesn't your wife have a good job at the university?

Bottom line: As well rooted (and anchored!) as you are with all your stuff and contacts, and living in as nice an area as you do with folks like Leonard Shepherd around, I'd sure hope you'd not immediately "bail" on that pretty part of the country and the friends/contacts you have. (OK, so I surmised all this with all of 36 hours in the area last October...)

Make lemonade locally, I guess I'd opine.

All the best in any case; this cannot be any fun no matter what you do. :) BP

Guido
01-14-2008, 08:03 PM
Some of you may have seen my prior posts about how my job has taken a severe turn for the worst. My boss terminated an employee and handed all of his responsibilities to me, no training, no documentation, no help. As I have asked him, how do I combine a 40 hour job (that someone knew how to do) with my existing 40 hour job and get anything accomplished? No answer on that yet, but it is looking more and more like I will need to pursue other opportunities.

As my wife points out, that may be easier said than done given the massive amount of stuff that I have accumulated over the past 35 years. What is the best way to reduce my "accumulations" that include Studebakers, farm tractors and machinery, furniture and tools?
Hire an auction company? If so who?
Put it all on e-Bay?
Try to sell it piecemeal via Internet sites, local newspapers, etc.?
Some other method?
Before Matthew or Mark jump in hoping to get my 4x4, I would keep that along with my '62 GT, my '46 fire truck and my '55 grain truck. The other cars and trucks could go as could a number of the tractors.

Any thoughts????? Just trying to make myself more mobile if an opportunity arises.

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

bondobilly
01-14-2008, 08:08 PM
If I am correct you are thinking about moving your "rolling stock" rather than your collection of "stuff" like your STP and assorted similar items.

The best way as I understand it is an auction like what was done with Asa Hall's collection, along with holding back some items for friends or SDC guys who would be willing to pay a fair price, and then E-bay'ing the remainder.

Right now with talk of poor times ahead, and poor economic indicators, maybe the best route would be to find some cheap space to move what you want to sell to, and let it sit. Then if you are forced to re-locate and disposable money loosens up, you can get a fair price.

bondobilly
01-14-2008, 08:08 PM
If I am correct you are thinking about moving your "rolling stock" rather than your collection of "stuff" like your STP and assorted similar items.

The best way as I understand it is an auction like what was done with Asa Hall's collection, along with holding back some items for friends or SDC guys who would be willing to pay a fair price, and then E-bay'ing the remainder.

Right now with talk of poor times ahead, and poor economic indicators, maybe the best route would be to find some cheap space to move what you want to sell to, and let it sit. Then if you are forced to re-locate and disposable money loosens up, you can get a fair price.

556063
01-14-2008, 08:08 PM
Having been faced with this same type situation and dilema twice in the past ten years, I can only give a little brief advice.

Don't make any brash moves. Set a timeline for required actions before you develop your action plan. Just as things change for the worse quickly, they can also change for the better quickly.

My wife should have shot me several times in the past as I've ridden the roller coaster of the business world. Of course I don't profess to know your circumstance and situation. But I do know it's not fun. Just don't push yourself off a cliff and wish later you hadn't jumped.

Kevin Wolford
Plymouth, IN

55 Champion
60 Lark VI Conv.
63 Avanti R1

556063
01-14-2008, 08:08 PM
Having been faced with this same type situation and dilema twice in the past ten years, I can only give a little brief advice.

Don't make any brash moves. Set a timeline for required actions before you develop your action plan. Just as things change for the worse quickly, they can also change for the better quickly.

My wife should have shot me several times in the past as I've ridden the roller coaster of the business world. Of course I don't profess to know your circumstance and situation. But I do know it's not fun. Just don't push yourself off a cliff and wish later you hadn't jumped.

Kevin Wolford
Plymouth, IN

55 Champion
60 Lark VI Conv.
63 Avanti R1

Guido
01-14-2008, 08:30 PM
At this point there is no pending crisis, but I am trying to get my ducks in a row in the event something happens. My work is somewhat specialized in the credit/collections/risk management arena so jobs can be scarce (though there were 2 positions here in town 9 months ago I did not pursue). In addition, my wife finishes her doctorate in May and will be looking to teach at the college level.

I have property where it could all be stored (though a lot would be outside) and a bunch is at the site of our large tractor show. My ability to continue to store stuff there might be tenuous if I am not around. I guess I will make up fliers for York again and see what happens.

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
01-14-2008, 08:30 PM
At this point there is no pending crisis, but I am trying to get my ducks in a row in the event something happens. My work is somewhat specialized in the credit/collections/risk management arena so jobs can be scarce (though there were 2 positions here in town 9 months ago I did not pursue). In addition, my wife finishes her doctorate in May and will be looking to teach at the college level.

I have property where it could all be stored (though a lot would be outside) and a bunch is at the site of our large tractor show. My ability to continue to store stuff there might be tenuous if I am not around. I guess I will make up fliers for York again and see what happens.

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/62/562/2/21/69/2353221690097493054hwathP_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/60/460/3/91/1/2433391010097493054nAMBKh_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/2/49/65/2603249650097493054XvpTUI_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/64/564/6/89/77/2752689770097493054skXzAT_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/5/22/8/2609522080097493054ZNRJeA_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/69/169/4/66/56/2729466560097493054oBZsXT_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

bams50
01-14-2008, 08:41 PM
Gary, sorry to hear about your bump in the road; but this too shall pass. I hope you're currently just weighing your options and not jumping the gun on anything!

My experience:

Auction- By far the easiest and fastest. You can do as much or as little of the organizing/cleaning/promoting as you want, including not lifting a finger beyond dialing the auction company. Of course, this will net you the smallest amount of money.

EBay- Still an auction, but much bigger buying pool. Lots of effort and hassle, but much better return on investment. Consider pledging to arrage delivery on the bigger items at actual cost- that is, tell the seller that if they buy the item you'll handle all the details to get it to them for just actual cost. That could make a HUGE difference in the selling price.

Specialist sites like tractor-specific sites may or may not help the bottom line, but are probably the easiest in terms of buyers understanding the item.

In any case, good luck to you, my friend. Hope things straighten out for you soon!

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

bams50
01-14-2008, 08:41 PM
Gary, sorry to hear about your bump in the road; but this too shall pass. I hope you're currently just weighing your options and not jumping the gun on anything!

My experience:

Auction- By far the easiest and fastest. You can do as much or as little of the organizing/cleaning/promoting as you want, including not lifting a finger beyond dialing the auction company. Of course, this will net you the smallest amount of money.

EBay- Still an auction, but much bigger buying pool. Lots of effort and hassle, but much better return on investment. Consider pledging to arrage delivery on the bigger items at actual cost- that is, tell the seller that if they buy the item you'll handle all the details to get it to them for just actual cost. That could make a HUGE difference in the selling price.

Specialist sites like tractor-specific sites may or may not help the bottom line, but are probably the easiest in terms of buyers understanding the item.

In any case, good luck to you, my friend. Hope things straighten out for you soon!

Robert (Bob) Andrews Owner- Studebakeracres- on the IoMT (Island of Misfit Toys!)
Parish, central NY 13131

Lenny R2
01-14-2008, 09:50 PM
Gary sorry to hear about your situation.I hope you wont have to
sell all of your collection.

Lenny
Atlanta Ga.

Lenny R2
01-14-2008, 09:50 PM
Gary sorry to hear about your situation.I hope you wont have to
sell all of your collection.

Lenny
Atlanta Ga.

Jessie J.
01-14-2008, 10:23 PM
Gary, here is hoping that this all comes out well in the end. As far as using an auction service to dispose of your collection, well about the best thing I can say about that idea, is that they will help to"dispose" of some of it, but expect not "pennies on a dollar" but more like A penny on a dollar.
I have had quite a bit of experience with auctions in my life and have participated from several different perspectives.
My family auctioned off mom's entire estate last year, it was a hot day, and there were few real bidders in the crowd, we had to watch as the considerable assets of her 93 years of living were sold off for less than 1/10 of their actual "fair market" value, and of course only the "best of the best" items drew any significant bidding at all, most bids were on stacks of items that the auctioneers just kept piling up higher and higher until they could generate any bid, and still almost a third of the items remained unsold at the end.
I could not recommend this route unless "disposal" was the only purpose, or as a last resort in only the most desperate of financial straits. Far better if at all possible, for you to sell off your collection individually to your fellow Stude enthusiasts, who will appreciate and value it as you do. (And will likely be willing to pay a bit more than auction bottom dollar)

Jessie J.
01-14-2008, 10:23 PM
Gary, here is hoping that this all comes out well in the end. As far as using an auction service to dispose of your collection, well about the best thing I can say about that idea, is that they will help to"dispose" of some of it, but expect not "pennies on a dollar" but more like A penny on a dollar.
I have had quite a bit of experience with auctions in my life and have participated from several different perspectives.
My family auctioned off mom's entire estate last year, it was a hot day, and there were few real bidders in the crowd, we had to watch as the considerable assets of her 93 years of living were sold off for less than 1/10 of their actual "fair market" value, and of course only the "best of the best" items drew any significant bidding at all, most bids were on stacks of items that the auctioneers just kept piling up higher and higher until they could generate any bid, and still almost a third of the items remained unsold at the end.
I could not recommend this route unless "disposal" was the only purpose, or as a last resort in only the most desperate of financial straits. Far better if at all possible, for you to sell off your collection individually to your fellow Stude enthusiasts, who will appreciate and value it as you do. (And will likely be willing to pay a bit more than auction bottom dollar)

Guido
01-14-2008, 10:26 PM
Even if I do not ever move again, it probably makes sense to explore reducing the amount of stuff I have. I guess I have 15-18 Studebakers and can only drive them one at a time. Some would be better off with someone else and they cost money to keep. Just think if I had 2-4 turn key cars/trucks that i could drive whenever I wanted.

Remember how I recycled about 40 batteries before Christmas? Even if they only cost $50.00 apiece (and most were more) that is $2,000 I have spent just to start vehicles I rarely drive.

Am I better off with 15 Studebakers and 10 tractors or $100K in the bank?

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/62/562/2/21/69/2353221690097493054hwathP_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/60/460/3/91/1/2433391010097493054nAMBKh_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/2/49/65/2603249650097493054XvpTUI_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/64/564/6/89/77/2752689770097493054skXzAT_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/5/22/8/2609522080097493054ZNRJeA_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/69/169/4/66/56/2729466560097493054oBZsXT_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
01-14-2008, 10:26 PM
Even if I do not ever move again, it probably makes sense to explore reducing the amount of stuff I have. I guess I have 15-18 Studebakers and can only drive them one at a time. Some would be better off with someone else and they cost money to keep. Just think if I had 2-4 turn key cars/trucks that i could drive whenever I wanted.

Remember how I recycled about 40 batteries before Christmas? Even if they only cost $50.00 apiece (and most were more) that is $2,000 I have spent just to start vehicles I rarely drive.

Am I better off with 15 Studebakers and 10 tractors or $100K in the bank?

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/62/562/2/21/69/2353221690097493054hwathP_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/60/460/3/91/1/2433391010097493054nAMBKh_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/2/49/65/2603249650097493054XvpTUI_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/64/564/6/89/77/2752689770097493054skXzAT_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/5/22/8/2609522080097493054ZNRJeA_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/69/169/4/66/56/2729466560097493054oBZsXT_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Bill Elbert
01-14-2008, 10:56 PM
Hey Gary. Sorry to hear of your situation. I had a large farm dispersal sale in Sept 2003, had several old grain trucks (6), Dodges, 36 Ford and a clean 47 M15. Also sold a really nice 49 2R15, bottom line was the big trucks were a giveaway. It was a well advertised sale is the heart of auction country, beautiful Saturday sale and good size crowd. Lots of other stuff sold well, newer machinery, wagon, buggy, blacksmith stuff, but not the big old stuff.I had earlier tried selling some of the big trucks on ebay without much success, just such a smaller, specialized market. I too am currently "thinning the herd" sold three in the last two months and have two to go. I had nine Studes, 8 trucks and the 58 Champion, all I did was work on them and buy parts and never really finished anything. My wife has been most patient but sometimes it is HARD to justify. I am culling back to a 47 M5, 46 M15 and a 48 M16 and my daily driver,the 57 3E11 (this is where my wife laughs and sarcasticly says, Some Sacrifice!). It hurt to see them go, but not as bad as I had thought. Good Luck.

Bill Elbert
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/337006150_f69e452789_m.jpg
59 4E11
58 Champion
57 3E11
48 M16
46 M15
41 M5

Bill Elbert
01-14-2008, 10:56 PM
Hey Gary. Sorry to hear of your situation. I had a large farm dispersal sale in Sept 2003, had several old grain trucks (6), Dodges, 36 Ford and a clean 47 M15. Also sold a really nice 49 2R15, bottom line was the big trucks were a giveaway. It was a well advertised sale is the heart of auction country, beautiful Saturday sale and good size crowd. Lots of other stuff sold well, newer machinery, wagon, buggy, blacksmith stuff, but not the big old stuff.I had earlier tried selling some of the big trucks on ebay without much success, just such a smaller, specialized market. I too am currently "thinning the herd" sold three in the last two months and have two to go. I had nine Studes, 8 trucks and the 58 Champion, all I did was work on them and buy parts and never really finished anything. My wife has been most patient but sometimes it is HARD to justify. I am culling back to a 47 M5, 46 M15 and a 48 M16 and my daily driver,the 57 3E11 (this is where my wife laughs and sarcasticly says, Some Sacrifice!). It hurt to see them go, but not as bad as I had thought. Good Luck.

Bill Elbert
http://farm1.static.flickr.com/160/337006150_f69e452789_m.jpg
59 4E11
58 Champion
57 3E11
48 M16
46 M15
41 M5

avantilover
01-15-2008, 01:43 AM
$100,000 would be handy, why not get some (stude) guys to help sort out your stuff then you could keep the good stuff and get rid of the trash.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

avantilover
01-15-2008, 01:43 AM
$100,000 would be handy, why not get some (stude) guys to help sort out your stuff then you could keep the good stuff and get rid of the trash.

John Clements
Avantilover, your South Australian Studebaker lover!!!
Lockleys South Australia

Avantidon
01-15-2008, 08:41 AM
Gary just sent you a note off line. Take a look and let me know.

See you in the future as I write about our past

Avantidon
01-15-2008, 08:41 AM
Gary just sent you a note off line. Take a look and let me know.

See you in the future as I write about our past

Guido
01-15-2008, 07:07 PM
Don, got your note and will respond shortly. I have also included the URL for my albums on Webshots in my signature block (http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage)

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Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

See pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

Guido
01-15-2008, 07:07 PM
Don, got your note and will respond shortly. I have also included the URL for my albums on Webshots in my signature block (http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage)

http://thumb14.webshots.net/t/62/562/2/21/69/2353221690097493054hwathP_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/60/460/3/91/1/2433391010097493054nAMBKh_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/2/49/65/2603249650097493054XvpTUI_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/64/564/6/89/77/2752689770097493054skXzAT_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/22/22/0/2/68/2589002680097493054ftBuBw_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/28/28/8/30/30/2075830300097493054aSSlFv_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/24/565/5/22/8/2609522080097493054ZNRJeA_th.jpghttp://thumb14.webshots.net/t/69/169/4/66/56/2729466560097493054oBZsXT_th.jpg
Guido Salvage - "Where rust is beautiful"

Studebaker horse drawn doctor’s buggy; Studebaker horse drawn “Izzer” buggy; 1946 M-16 fire truck; 1948 M-16 grain truck; 1949 2R17A fire truck; 1950 2R5 pickup; 1952 2R17A grain truck; 1952 Packard 200 4 door; 1955 E-38 grain truck; 1957 3E-40 flatbed; 1961 6E-28 grain truck; 1962 7E-13D 4x4 rack truck; 1962 7E-7 Champ pickup; 1962 GT Hawk 4 speed; 1963 8E-28 flatbed; 1964 Avanti R2 4 speed; 1964 Cruiser and various other "treasures" (including a 1959 IH B-120 4 wheel drive, a 1970 Dodge W-200 Power Wagon and numerous Oliver and Cockshutt tractors).

See pictures here: http://community.webshots.com/user/GuidoSalvage

Hiding and preserving Studebakers in Richmond, Goochland & Louisa, Va.

studegary
01-16-2008, 01:16 PM
Gary H. -

I can understand your desire to downsize and that vehicles do eat - space, insurance, upkeep.

In general, I am a strong believer in the auction method, if you deal with a good company and the auction is well advertised in the appropriate places.

I have bought and sold houses, cars, stuff and my father's estate items at auction. In general, I was satisfied. You can not look at the price each individual item brings, but you need to look at the overall picture. I think that Sharon Hall did well considering the size and quantity of vehicles that she wanted to dispose of. As you know, she held back many small items and sold them on eBay.

Depending on your timeline and how much time and effort you want to put into it, eBay will probably get the proper exposure, but as you know, large items are a hard sell at a distance.

If you really want to hold onto some items, maybe you could consolidate them onto one parcel of land and have a pole building erected to house and secure them.

Of course, in the long run, for some heavy, low value pieces it would probably make economic sense to scrap the item rather than store it. Of course, I would rather see you sell that type of item at scrap value to someone that would want it.

With the storage option, you are not rushed into doing something and you could even move away.

Good luck in your decision. I have friends that are very high up (National President) in country wide auction associations. If you don't have a good/honest auctioneer to work with, contact me off the forum and I will ask them for referrals.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer

studegary
01-16-2008, 01:16 PM
Gary H. -

I can understand your desire to downsize and that vehicles do eat - space, insurance, upkeep.

In general, I am a strong believer in the auction method, if you deal with a good company and the auction is well advertised in the appropriate places.

I have bought and sold houses, cars, stuff and my father's estate items at auction. In general, I was satisfied. You can not look at the price each individual item brings, but you need to look at the overall picture. I think that Sharon Hall did well considering the size and quantity of vehicles that she wanted to dispose of. As you know, she held back many small items and sold them on eBay.

Depending on your timeline and how much time and effort you want to put into it, eBay will probably get the proper exposure, but as you know, large items are a hard sell at a distance.

If you really want to hold onto some items, maybe you could consolidate them onto one parcel of land and have a pole building erected to house and secure them.

Of course, in the long run, for some heavy, low value pieces it would probably make economic sense to scrap the item rather than store it. Of course, I would rather see you sell that type of item at scrap value to someone that would want it.

With the storage option, you are not rushed into doing something and you could even move away.

Good luck in your decision. I have friends that are very high up (National President) in country wide auction associations. If you don't have a good/honest auctioneer to work with, contact me off the forum and I will ask them for referrals.

Gary L.
Wappinger, NY

SDC member since 1968
Studebaker enthusiast much longer