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GrumpyOne
07-04-2017, 08:24 PM
Swiss cheese???

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1956-studebaker-golden-hawk-hard-top/142431687461

tsenecal
07-04-2017, 10:09 PM
Kinda sad to see, but it looks like it may be too far gone to bring back to life. Lots of good parts, or maybe rat rod material.

riversidevw
07-05-2017, 09:27 AM
Whole new definition of "surface rust!"

r1lark
07-05-2017, 09:48 AM
Body donor time. :)

The ad states "common Studebaker exterior rust", but to me that's beyond the common Stude rust. On the plus side the seller has provided plenty of pictures so a potential buyer can see what they are getting.

Already a good number of bids, and no reserve.

candbstudebakers
07-05-2017, 11:39 AM
car was for sale out this way a couple of weeks ago for $1000 or best offer now it is being flipped for a profit, I did not want to get back then as I am cleaning house.

studegary
07-05-2017, 12:02 PM
The body looks about like a 1956 Hawk that was regularly driven for nine years around here. Who knows where it was driven early in it life (not a Vernon/LA S/N).

The Serial Number does not compute with me. It looks like a South Bend number, but I think that it is too high. Hopefully, one of the 56J experts can clarify this for me (and others).

8E45E
07-05-2017, 01:08 PM
Unusual in that it's not equipped with a clock, as it's well equipped otherwise.

Craig

riversidevw
07-05-2017, 01:24 PM
The body looks about like a 1956 Hawk that was regularly driven for nine years around here. Who knows where it was driven early in it life (not a Vernon/LA S/N).

The Serial Number does not compute with me. It looks like a South Bend number, but I think that it is too high. Hopefully, one of the 56J experts can clarify this for me (and others).

I'm no 56J expert, but the authenticity guide indicates that South Bend 56J serial numbers ended with 6033472. Highest serial number of cars accounted for in the roster is 6033469 (a parts car at the time). So no, the serial number doesn't compute. Not even close. And "LA" numbers all begin with 680...

studegary
07-05-2017, 07:43 PM
I'm no 56J expert, but the authenticity guide indicates that South Bend 56J serial numbers ended with 6033472. Highest serial number of cars accounted for in the roster is 6033469 (a parts car at the time). So no, the serial number doesn't compute. Not even close. And "LA" numbers all begin with 680...

Thanks. The source that I use/used had the same ending number for 1956 Golden Hawk South Bend production as what you posted.

black56hawk
07-05-2017, 08:15 PM
I asked the seller about the VIN. His reply: "6800576."

studegary
07-05-2017, 08:32 PM
I asked the seller about the VIN. His reply: "6800576."

Thanks. That S/N makes sense for a South Bend built car.

riversidevw
07-05-2017, 08:44 PM
Thanks. That S/N makes sense for a South Bend built car.

Gary, doubtless you meant a Vernon-built car. The serial has been on the 56J register as belonging to a Geoffrey Fors in California. I didn't load the CD with production orders, but that's a relatively late production number. Last 56J at Vernon said to have been 6800601. Hard to see how he could have gotten the number so wrong for the listing.

riversidevw
07-05-2017, 09:31 PM
So there was a #6800576, Vernon production order written May 24, 1956, shipped June 8, '56 with destination Gilroy, CA (California's garlic capital). Body #2838, engine #S2461. Ceramic Green/Snowcap White. Usual accessories (Clock, radio, back up lights, etc, etc). Seems to match the rusted remains.

Gil

(Edit) If always in CA, wonder if the car was neglected in a seaside environment. Might explain rusting in corners of the roof. In high school, recall a yahoo in town (Manhattan Beach, CA) would buy a new Lincoln Premiere every couple of years. Always left outside, never washed. By trade-in time there would be severe deterioration of paint, beginnings of surface rust and corrosion of trim. Everything but barnacles!

riversidevw
07-06-2017, 11:31 AM
car was for sale out this way a couple of weeks ago for $1000 or best offer now it is being flipped for a profit, I did not want to get back then as I am cleaning house.

The guy is pretty clearly a hustler, though I shouldn't comment on how people choose to make a living. Or their use of capitalization or punctuation. This is a "...great opportunity to own an Awesome american Classic?" Not so much. More like "earth to earth, ashes to ashes, dust to dust," to borrow a time-worn phrase. When parked in 1965, this was likely a decent and attractive automobile.

studegary
07-06-2017, 12:35 PM
Gary, doubtless you meant a Vernon-built car. The serial has been on the 56J register as belonging to a Geoffrey Fors in California. I didn't load the CD with production orders, but that's a relatively late production number. Last 56J at Vernon said to have been 6800601. Hard to see how he could have gotten the number so wrong for the listing.

Yes, I was still thinking about the S/N in the listing that would have been after the South Bend production.

mbstude
07-06-2017, 06:53 PM
If anyone wants a '56J project, this would can be had for $9500. 3 speed overdrive. Someone had done a lot of restoration work, but he passed away before it was finished. Needs to be taken apart, stripped and repainted, but it's rock solid and complete. Sheetmetal is nice, all the brightwork is NOS or refinished, NOS steering wheel and dash assembly, NOS side glass, etc etc.. Needs to have the interior redone but it's a much better start to a nice car than the one in the ebay ad.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4158/34648804411_31ba1de603_z.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4182/34740809816_aeb6c3677a_z.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4252/34740811786_489964e782_z.jpg

riversidevw
07-07-2017, 09:20 AM
Agree wholeheartedly. Especially if the drive train and chassis have been gone through. Stance of the car suggests that things like springs have been addressed. Looks like an older restoration or repaint was done. Car originally with that early two-tone paint scheme? Complete redo will give opportunity to eliminate the bright stainless along base of the rear fins. Should be a really nice 56J. Wish I were in the market for another...

Gil


If anyone wants a '56J project, this would can be had for $9500. 3 speed overdrive. Someone had done a lot of restoration work, but he passed away before it was finished. Needs to be taken apart, stripped and repainted, but it's rock solid and complete. Sheetmetal is nice, all the brightwork is NOS or refinished, NOS steering wheel and dash assembly, NOS side glass, etc etc.. Needs to have the interior redone but it's a much better start to a nice car than the one in the ebay ad.

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4158/34648804411_31ba1de603_z.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4182/34740809816_aeb6c3677a_z.jpg

https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4252/34740811786_489964e782_z.jpg

riversidevw
07-08-2017, 04:00 PM
"Winning" bid $1675.00.

57pack
07-08-2017, 04:35 PM
The subject car does look as if it were parked by the ocean front. Reminds me of an early XKE Jaguar that was parked on a spit of land facing the bay and the ocean in Strathmere NJ. Car had been parked there so long you could poke your finger through it.