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SayrePS
07-02-2017, 09:50 PM
Hello,
I'm I high school student and recently acquired my grandfather's 1962 Studebaker Champ. However, he is not able to help me since he lives in a different state. Because of this, I've been on the search for mentors and parts needed for the truck. I most of everything I need, except for a few things such as the tail lights. However, my biggest worry is how much I can figure out from that manual and how I can find mentors to help me.

Any help or guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks

RadioRoy
07-02-2017, 10:08 PM
Welcome to the forum,

Here is my best advice in no particular order.

-buy the shop manual, the chassis parts catalog and the body parts catalog. They show all the parts, what their correct name is and the part number. Studebaker vendors use these part numbers to assure that you get the correct parts.

http://studebakervendors.com/

-Start slowly, learn your truck. Get it stopping and running, drive it and fix the little things that need to be fixed as you learn.

-the vehicle does not need to be re-designed with parts from another brand. If you bring everything up to specification, re-bush the bushings and so on, you will have a reliable, well running and well driving truck. Studebaker engineers were professionals who knew what they were doing.

-do not take the truck apart. It's the thing that everyone seems to think of, BUT... It is one hundred time easier to take something apart than it is to put it back together. Leave the ground up restorations to the pros with the tools, knowledge and money to complete the task.

-Whenever you do disassemble something, do it with the idea in mind that you have to put it back together again. If you disassemble something, lay the parts out in the order they came off. Then, put them back on in the same order. That alone will save you lots of grief.

You are smart enough to ask for advice first, so you should do well.

StudeNewby
07-02-2017, 10:38 PM
Sayre,
Welcome to the forum! You've come to the right place for advice and tips. Everything Roy said is true. The only things I can add are 1) join the Studebaker Driver's Club, if you haven't already. The monthly Turning Wheels magazine is itself worth the price. 2) Then join your local SDC chapter there in Iowa. There should be several other Students aficionados locally who can help you on your journey.
One thing that Roy said bears repeating: there are plenty of Studebaker parts available. Don't feel compelled to replace parts (or the whole drivetrain) with something from a Chevy, etc. They are a dime a dozen. But what you have is unique. You won't see a Champ at every cruise in or car show, especially one with original Studebaker power. Ask me how I know.
Welcome aboard!

70Avanti2
07-02-2017, 11:01 PM
I would add. Keep the truck driveable. Make your repairs weekend projects ie take it apart, repair it, put it back together in a short period of time.

scottsewall
07-03-2017, 01:02 AM
take a lot of picture before and while taking stuff apart. Much easier to reassemble.

bison
07-03-2017, 01:33 AM
Welcome SayrePS
i agree with what everyone else has said , my truck , a 49 1/2 ton needs basically everything , it is never going to be an award winner , BUT it does run ( barely ;)) the one thing i do try and follow is , that i never do more than one job at a time . i think most new comers to the hobby whatever make vehicle it is have grand illusions of tearing a vehicle down to take it back to show room condition and then find out 1 month into it they have nothing but a frame and a garage full of parts laying around taking up space :( and then feel overwhelmed and never finish it .
I would listen to what Roy said about the manuals , but i have also found that using these manuals will require you to ask MANY questions as they are mainly for reference , as becoming mechanically inclined is not something you learn from a book but by experience .
good luck , Blake
btw , i need a mentor too :D

LarkTruck
07-03-2017, 06:09 AM
Welcome Sayre,
I too own a 62 Champ, and my first car was a 62 Lark way back in the 70's. I agree with what the others have said, and will also suggest you visit Studebaker International at: www.studebaker-intl.com (http://www.studebaker-intl.com) and purchase their catalog. You will be amazed at all the parts available for your Champ. I also suggest you check out Studebaker Truck Talk, http://www.network54.com/Forum/23885 a great place to get help with, and talk to other Studebaker Truck owners. And lastly, I invite you to join the Studebaker Truck Farmers at: http://www.studebakertruckfarmer.de/ over 600 Studebaker Truck owners who welcome you with open arms. There are no dues, no rules, just a bunch of Studebaker Truck crazy folks.
If you can, how about posting a couple of pics of your truck, we'd love to see it.
Best of Luck to you!
Jim

70Avanti2
07-03-2017, 01:24 PM
If you cant find a Stude guy close by, look for a grandfatherly type old car guy.

If you will help him. He will help/teach you.

Thats the way alot of us learned.

studeclunker
07-03-2017, 01:59 PM
Hello,
I'm I high school student and recently acquired my grandfather's 1962 Studebaker Champ. However, he is not able to help me since he lives in a different state. Because of this, I've been on the search for mentors and parts needed for the truck. I most of everything I need, except for a few things such as the tail lights. However, my biggest worry is how much I can figure out from that manual and how I can find mentors to help me.

Any help or guidance would be appreciated.

Thanks

Welcome to our forum and community. We have a few young people like you hanging around from time to time.

A quick fix on the tail lights are the press-in truck tail lights available at any truck stop. The correct size is available. I know because my '60 Champ has them. This will give you lights at a very reasonable cost very quickly. When you install them do not cut the wires! Splice the new wires in using the blue squeeze splicers. These are available at any Friendly Local Auto Parts Store (or FLAPS as you often hear them referred to). Get the large multi-type selection tray with all the different little connectors. Then get the crimper tool for them.

Parts for your truck are readily available with the possible exception of brake drums and even those can be found if you look hard enough.

Follow Roy's advice. Sounds like you already have the truck shop manual? Read each section regarding whatever project (like Roy said, keep them small) through completely first. If you have a scanner, scan the pages you are using. This way you can carry only the needed pages out to the truck and if they get greasy or dirty, no big deal. You might also consider getting all three books for your truck on CD (or is it DVD) and just print out the needed pages.

Look into the Technical Forum (use the search mode or google search with Studebaker first) for information and guidance. If you can't find an answer, ask. There are a lot of people around here who love to help.

Gramps gave you a great truck. I do hope you have a great time getting it back on the road.

SayrePS
07-03-2017, 06:40 PM
Thanks everyone for all the help! I've been researching the truck and looking for mentors for the past month, and I think I finally found one after going to the Good Guys Car show in Des Moines. Luckily, my grandfather was very good at finding parts for the truck, and from the looks of it I need some gaskets, but other than that I haven't found much I need. From what I understand though, the truck is fairly rare since it's also an automatic with factory air. Hopefully, I can get it running for a show next year (not looking for any awards). From the looks of it, the only nightmare is going to be the electrical system as I recently learned from RadioRoy that there is no fuse box, so I'm unable to follow the wires. The one picture attached is when we were bringing the truck back up from Texas and we broke down because of a loose wire.

Kurt
07-03-2017, 08:03 PM
Sayre, I have a 61 Champ. I live in central IL. Google says I live about 4 hours from you. If you have Champ/ Studebaker questions I would be willing to help you out. Just pm me and I'll send you a phone number.

Swifster
07-03-2017, 08:17 PM
Sayre, the manuals are a good start. you can get them two ways. Many prefer the old paper kind. I prefer the manuals on CD. They are all on one CD for $20. Buy the paper manuals and they start around $35 ea. I like the CD manuals because I can print out what I need. Good luck on your project.

tsenecal
07-03-2017, 09:39 PM
Not sure If your grandfather did his own repairs on the truck, But was thinking that if he had, he may be able to give you some good advice over the phone. He might even enjoy being involved in the "fixing up" process of his old ride.

62champ
07-03-2017, 10:03 PM
Congratulations on the truck. Champs are great vehicles and chances are you will have the only one at the car shows you will go to. This website is the greatest resource you will find so make sure to use it. When you have your VIN, make sure to add your info to the online registry. Good luck.

http://forum.studebakerdriversclub.com/showthread.php?83045-1962-Champ-T-Cab-forum-registry

BILT4ME
07-05-2017, 01:32 PM
Congratulations and welcome to the forum SayrePS!

The Champ is VERY similar to the Lark for body parts (there are a few changes) and you have been given some great advice here.

I went to college in Ames and now live in the Kansas City area. I MAY have a source for a few parts for your truck, but I would have to look to see what there is. I don;t own them and it's a private individual that's only around certain times, so sometimes it takes a while to get parts.

Let us know or PM me what parts you think you need and I'll see if I can find out what there is.

Pictures. We ALL want pictures.

Read a LOT on this forum. There are LOTS of very good, very seasoned folks on here that LOVE their Studes. Don't get snarky on your comments, like you may on other forums, as most of the folks here don't sit well with that. (Not saying you do, just that it's common even for my son to do that...I even do it ....on other forums)

Most of us are very willing to help, especially if you can describe your issue. Learn the language and how something goes together and you'll be golden.

I also second (or twentieth) the suggestion on buying a set of Studebaker manuals including the repair manual, body manual, and parts manual, as well as an electrical one if it happens to be separate for the trucks. Another great manual for the Studes is the "Motor" brand manuals that you can find at used book stores, estate sales, and on the internet. Find one dated 1963 or 1965 for the best info covering YOUR year.

Good Luck!

studeclunker
07-05-2017, 02:22 PM
Thanks everyone for all the help! I've been researching the truck and looking for mentors for the past month, and I think I finally found one after going to the Good Guys Car show in Des Moines. Luckily, my grandfather was very good at finding parts for the truck, and from the looks of it I need some gaskets, but other than that I haven't found much I need. From what I understand though, the truck is fairly rare since it's also an automatic with factory air. Hopefully, I can get it running for a show next year (not looking for any awards). From the looks of it, the only nightmare is going to be the electrical system as I recently learned from RadioRoy that there is no fuse box, so I'm unable to follow the wires. The one picture attached is when we were bringing the truck back up from Texas and we broke down because of a loose wire.

The Simplicity of a Studebaker is on your side Kiddo. Electrical Nightmare? Not really. Studebakers were quite simple right up to the end. Yours will have a bit more complication due to the AC. However, that is a system unto itself, so not a big deal there. Here's a hint: If you've the cash to spend, don't fix, replace. The proper wiring harness for your truck is available. Just get a new one and be done with the old, fragile, deteriorating wires. It's a pain in the wazoo to replace in the dash, however well worth the effort (whilst you are cussing and bleeding all around under the dash, it's a good time to replace all those tiny lightbulbs too)! Everywhere else in the truck the wiring should be rather easily accessible. Things get a little tight for the tail lights, but nothing a little bit of hanger wire can't get done.

Would have loved to see a pic. of your old man, but it didn't come through. Here's a shot of my old man Ed (also a '62):
http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b18/Studeclunker/shots%20of%20Ed/HPIM0298.jpg

StudeNewby
07-05-2017, 11:08 PM
Automatic AND factory a/c? Holy moley, Sayre, you've got a Champ unicorn! Paint me jealous!
Seriously, that's a cool piece of machinery. Post pics!

studeclunker
07-06-2017, 12:05 PM
Unicorn... yeah and he has rainbows coming out his exhaust pipe!!:lol:

53commander
07-06-2017, 07:32 PM
-do not take the truck apart. It's the thing that everyone seems to think of, BUT... It is one hundred time easier to take something apart than it is to put it back together. Leave the ground up restorations to the pros with the tools, knowledge and money to complete the task.

-Whenever you do disassemble something, do it with the idea in mind that you have to put it back together again. If you disassemble something, lay the parts out in the order they came off. Then, put them back on in the same order. That alone will save you lots of grief.

Two very excellent points. I bought my '53 when I was 15 and immediately took it all apart including the body off the frame. Then life happened and now here I am at 47 trying to put it all back together. Lucky for me I tagged every part, nut and bolt. Back then there were no cheap cameras to take lots of pictures with. In hindsight I should have just got it running, driving, and stopping then at least I could have enjoyed it through the years and did a full restoration later on.