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bison
06-28-2017, 04:46 AM
It seems every weekend i am working on my truck ( this past weekend i finished putting a new clutch in ) and i have all of these ideas about posting the things i am working on but then for some reason or other i get busy on something else, usually it is the time ( or should i say chore ;) ) of trying to get photos from my iphone to computer ,which is usually a compatibility problem or uploaded them to photobucket ( which i don't really like ) so for that reason ,i am writing this on my Macbook :(
About 5 months ago i was lucky enough to get a pair of original 1947 California license plates off of eBay for a fair amount less than they usually go for ,granted they were damaged and would need work but i figured i would try my hand at repairing them . it took about a month working on them when i had the time , but i think they came out pretty good . I am ( hopefully )posting a couple of photos of before and after along with a photo of them on my truck , A SPECIAL THANKS to Skip Lackie for the license plate holder that he sent me last year, thanks again Skip
Blake 65152651536515465155

ndynis
06-28-2017, 07:22 AM
Wow! Great job on the plates!!

8E45E
06-28-2017, 07:42 AM
VERY nice!

And a fitting 'Commercial' plate meant for trucks, which is far less common than the regular passenger car plates.

Craig

JRoberts
06-28-2017, 07:45 AM
Looking very nice. I think a lot of folks do not understand how difficult restoring old plates can be. Yours are a great addition to your truck.

jclary
06-28-2017, 08:26 AM
Great job! Here in S.C., I have thought about registering "year of manufacture" plates. However, due to my disdain to becoming embroiled in the morass of government contrived paperwork, I decided to forego the humiliating experience of jumping through the hoops.

For example, here your restoration work could be construed by one of our DMV "Barney Fife deputies" as not being original. Here is a sample of one of several regulations...
The plate must be in its original condition. The plate may not have been repainted or otherwise altered from its original condition. Exceptions may be granted on a case-by-case basis.


So, you find an original plate, pay thirty bucks above the regular annual fee, just to display an old tag. Already, since our state requires only one rear plate, I have decorative plates boldly stating the year with larger, easy to read year numbers displayed. Even with that, folks still ask "WHAT YEAR IS IT?":confused: Since nobody seems to pay much attention to the boldly displayed custom tag...why would I want to display a vintage plate with even smaller numbers?:rolleyes:

If I could display them by putting my time into making the tags look as good as yours. without the paperwork hassle, I would enjoy the challenge.:)

8E45E
06-28-2017, 08:38 AM
Great job! Here in S.C., I have thought about registering "year of manufacture" plates.
For example, here your restoration work could be construed by one of our DMV "Barney Fife deputies" as not being original. Here is a sample of one of several regulations...
The plate must be in its original condition. The plate may not have been repainted or otherwise altered from its original condition.

Alberta has similar rules in that YOM plates must not be altered from their original condition, though one is also issued a current set of Antique plates so it fits into the provincial numbering system in their database, and the extremely slim chance two indentical plate numbers from different years could surface. The current Antique plate does not have to be displayed on the car when the YOM plates are in place, but it has to be kept somewhere in the car, be it under the seat or in the trunk, if one is stopped by a police officer.

Craig

6hk71400
06-28-2017, 11:09 AM
Alberta has similar rules in that YOM plates must not be altered from their original condition, though one is also issued a current set of Antique plates so it fits into the provincial numbering system in their database, and the extremely slim chance two indentical plate numbers from different years could surface. The current Antique plate does not have to be displayed on the car when the YOM plates are in place, but it has to be kept somewhere in the car, be it under the seat or in the trunk, if one is stopped by a police officer.

Craig

Years ago, Arizona did things differently (!). There was a statue that to use YOM plates, they had to be recoated with proper reflective paint in the original color to be used. In other words the state basically said we don't want you to use YOM plates. That has changed at this time because now you keep the plate just transfer from car to car. The plate on Jenny's van is 15 years old and the plastic coating is peeling off.

I was discouraged from the law years ago plus the fact the state clips you for an additional charge to display anything other than a state issue new plate. My 97 Oldsmobile is taxed on lieu value so it is cheap to plate each year. The 2012 Dodge Caravan is going down each year but not fast enough for me.

Sounds like Alberta has their hand in your pocket twice just to keep you on your toes.

Bob Miles
Tucson AZ

asesolen
06-28-2017, 03:55 PM
Blake, the plates look great! Glad to hear you're get to g the clutch thing figured out too!

wdills
06-28-2017, 04:27 PM
Those plates probably look better than the day some one picked them up new from the DMV.

We have it easy here in NC. You can display a YOM plate without any additional paperwork or hassle. You just have to have your current registration and current tag somewhere in the car so it can be shown on request.

tim333
06-28-2017, 05:03 PM
Wayne, same here in Illinois

Corvanti
06-28-2017, 06:20 PM
Those plates probably look better than the day some one picked them up new from the DMV.
We have it easy here in NC. You can display a YOM plate without any additional paperwork or hassle. You just have to have your current registration and current tag somewhere in the car so it can be shown on request.

here's mine that i refurbished: 65169

fpstude
06-28-2017, 06:49 PM
Blake, great resto job. One was quite rough when you started. I have YOM plates on three of our cars. The '63 has it's original black plates. If you get tired of working on Studebakers, you could restore license plates.

Skip Lackie
06-29-2017, 08:26 AM
Blake -- Nice job on the plates. That license plate holder was pretty crummy, and I actually found a better one a couple of months later.

I wrote the local DC year-of-manufacture license plate law back in the 1990s, and based it on about a dozen already-existing state laws, all of which required YOM plates to be original and not repainted. However, a number of states have liberalized that requirement in the years since then. DC doesn't have a lot of antique cars, and even few of them are equipped with YOM plates. I'm not sure how carefully the DC DMV enforces the originality regulation, as most of their personnel are far too young to ever have seen any of the older plates in use. When the YOM law was originally passed, I had to provide the DMV with a listing of the original DC plate colors, as they had long since destroyed all their old registration records. Nowadays, they can just refer to the excellent dcplates.com site.

5brown1
06-29-2017, 08:33 AM
Corvanti - how did you paint the numbers so they came out looking so good?

In South Dakota you can register YOM plates pay $10 and are good to go forever with limited driving restrictions which I have never seen enforced.

jclary
06-29-2017, 08:47 AM
Gee...I recall when nobody wanted to brag about being good at license plate work:(:o...

For some reason, instead of "employee":confused:...a license plate craftsman had the title of "INMATE!":oops::QQ:

8E45E
06-29-2017, 08:55 AM
For some reason, instead of "employee...a license plate craftsman had the title of "INMATE!"

I have seen a few 1950's Montana plates that have 'Prison Made' discreetly stamped on the left side.

https://c1.staticflickr.com/5/4237/35492116461_daa07f2af3_h.jpg

Craig

JRoberts
06-29-2017, 09:25 AM
We are lucky here in North Carolina we don't have to pay extra when displaying a YOM tag.
We are also lucky that we can purchase an antique or historic tag, for a bit more, that by law limits the taxable value the car to $500. This tax saving more than offsets the extra cost of the plate. (
I hope none of the powers in charge of things read this and get some crazy new idea!:rolleyes:)

53k
06-29-2017, 10:34 AM
We are lucky here in North Carolina we don't have to pay extra when displaying a YOM tag.
We are also lucky that we can purchase an antique or historic tag, for a bit more, that by law limits the taxable value the car to $500. This tax saving more than offsets the extra cost of the plate. (
I hope none of the powers in charge of things read this and get some crazy new idea!:rolleyes:)
West Virginia doesn't charge (or didn't last time I checked) for use of YOM plates. They did require bringing in the actual plate. I had a nice '64 plate which I took in. The women checked and told me that I couldn't use it. That number was still in use on a handicapped tag.

1oldtimer
06-29-2017, 11:29 AM
Good save as those '47 comm plates are super pricey. I've done several plates (even have a '39 plate for my house number) and gave yet to be stopped by the DMV. The process I use is letter color write from of the plate, thin coat of background color entire plate, color sand through letters/numbers then Clear coat whole plate.

njonkman
06-29-2017, 09:52 PM
When I bought my 56 Champion it still had the original plate on the front from when the car was new. Beat up pretty bad and rusted. I derusted it first with Evapo-Rust then made a bunch of wooden punches to work out the number curves etc. Here are a before and after pictures
I spent two weeks straightening this plate. I only have one so I attach it with wing nuts on the front plate when attending a show.
I do mention on my display board that this is the first original plate this car got when new.
Nick
65198 65199

52 Ragtop
06-29-2017, 10:12 PM
Just depends on "who" sees them. When I lived in LA, and was driving my 63 Avanti daily, I decided to "repaint" the blue and yellow plate, to black and yellow. The only difference was on the blue & yellow plates it was 123-ABC on the black plates it was ABC-123 NOBODY ever caught that, and I only did the rear plate. I never ran a front plate from 1979 when I bought it, until 1990 when we moved to Indiana. I "guess" I was just lucky!
OTOH, when I was working in Glendale, I was putting a car back together on the lot, it was hit in the rear and the plate was mangled. As I was hammering it back to (somewhat) flat again I had a Glendale Motorcycle Cop stop and tell me if I hit the plate one more time, he would arrest me for defacing a license plate. Go figure!

Jim

Corvanti
06-30-2017, 06:58 PM
Corvanti - how did you paint the numbers so they came out looking so good?

a small paint brush, Q-tips and a toothpick.:)

riversidevw
06-30-2017, 07:40 PM
Those plates probably look better than the day some one picked them up new from the DMV.

We have it easy here in NC. You can display a YOM plate without any additional paperwork or hassle. You just have to have your current registration and current tag somewhere in the car so it can be shown on request.

Sounds perfectly reasonable. Sort of thing that might send the California DMV and legislature into convulsions. Here, hassle and extortion are the name of the game.

For a time, my local town offered meter maids a bonus for ticketing missing front plates or other perceived technical plate violations as they made their parking enforcement rounds. Happily, said tickets were soon ruled invalid. Foiled again!

Gil

riversidevw
06-30-2017, 08:27 PM
We are lucky here in North Carolina we don't have to pay extra when displaying a YOM tag.
We are also lucky that we can purchase an antique or historic tag, for a bit more, that by law limits the taxable value the car to $500. This tax saving more than offsets the extra cost of the plate. (
I hope none of the powers in charge of things read this and get some crazy new idea!:rolleyes:)

NC is looking better by the moment. When historic vehicle and horseless carriage plates were introduced out here several decades ago, there was something similar, a much reduced annual registration fee. It reflected the very limited use of the cars specifically for hobby-related purposes. Now they charge full bore. Quoting from Dr. Zhivago, "it's much more fair" that way.:( We are just the idle rich, right?

bison
07-03-2017, 03:55 AM
Guy's , Thanks for the compliments
The California DMV has changed it stance on YOM plates ,as you are now allowed to restore and repaint them ,which make it easier ( and more expensive :lol:) But lets face it how many of these old plates are going to be in such good shape to pass any type of DMV inspection ?
I live in Hawthorne and have been to the local DMV :eek:, I didn't want to try my luck there , so I made an appointment at the Santa Monica DMV ,as I had a pretty good experience the last time I was there . The day of my appointment I walked in and the woman at the sign in / information desk knew about the YOM program ( which I figured was a good start ) she gave me my number and told me to be seated , the wait clock said I had about a 57 minute wait ( no problem ,as it was 1 PM and I didn't have to be at work until 3pm and work was only about 30 minutes away :!!: ) when my number was called I made my way to the counter and gave the woman all of my paper work , even though she was familiar with the YOM program , she was at first , how should I say this , not very cooperative ;), until one of her coworkers walked by and saw my plates , he commented that they looked great and we then struck up a conversation about vintage vehicles ( which he had one ) after that , her personality seemed to change from night to day :D and from then on it was smooth sailing , I paid the fees and was told my registration would come in the mail in 4 to 6 weeks I looked at the clock and to my disbelief was actually done with everything in 58 minutes ( I think that was the most amazing thing of the whole process )
And exactly as she had stated , 1 month later i received my registration in the mail.

1954khardtop
07-03-2017, 06:39 AM
Nice job on the plates! In NY I was able to do everything on line. I sent a picture of the plate to DMV via email, filled out the form on line. After verifying the number was good and the plate was legible they sent me a new registration.

8E45E
07-05-2017, 08:09 AM
she was at first , how should I say this , not very cooperative ;), until one of her coworkers walked by and saw my plates , he commented that they looked great and we then struck up a conversation about vintage vehicles ( which he had one ) after that , her personality seemed to change from night to day and from then on it was smooth sailing.

Maybe he was her supervisor??

Craig

StudeNewby
07-06-2017, 12:21 AM
Another bonus in NC is that vehicles 35 years old and older require no annual safety inspection. I guess they figure collectors will inspect them better than the DMV. Another savings!

Skip Lackie
07-06-2017, 04:34 PM
Another bonus in NC is that vehicles 35 years old and older require no annual safety inspection. I guess they figure collectors will inspect them better than the DMV. Another savings!

This is a pretty common practice with historic/antique plates, and is derived from federal rules that permit the states to exempt from federal safety and emissions regs those antique vehicles that are not expected to be driven regularly. It is a pretty broad exemption, and is probably abused in some states. Even so, the contribution to national air pollution by antique/historic vehicles is insignificant -- which was the idea for the exemption in the first place.