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56 Rando
06-26-2017, 02:47 PM
Hi Guys. I was recently able to purchase one of my all time favorite Studebakers, A 56 Sky Hawk. That's the good part. My dilemma is The car is in the LA area and I live in NJ. The car is a project, and doesn't run. That's OK, i figure it will be my last Studebaker project. problem is, going thru the usual shipping channels, No one seems interested in picking it up.I guess because its an inop vehicle no one wants to be bothered. I've shipped 4 cars before successfully but those were running and driving vehicles. Can anyone out there in Stude-land recommend someone trustworthy that can do the job? Maybe someone in the LA area with some time would want to take a roadtrip to deliver my car? If so PM me and we can discuss the details. Thanks in Advance for any help.

thunderations
06-26-2017, 03:57 PM
Had the same problem getting 3 Studebakers from Michigan to Arizona a few years ago. Ended up costing about twice the original quote. Good luck.

cavanbound
06-27-2017, 07:10 AM
I just shipped a car from LA (Northridge) to MN a few weeks ago, and had similar issues getting it picked up (10 days with no takers) until we did 2 things: 1) made the drop-off address a commonly-used car lot in MN where auto-auctions occur- close to an interstate, rather than my house, which is not close to an interstate; and 2) increased the offer price $200 to a total of $1050 ($950 to the driver, $100 to the broker). If any other details are helpful, please shoot me a note. My '63 Hawk arrived in good order.

cavanbound
06-27-2017, 07:12 AM
Also, I'd be remiss if I didn't note that the 1956 Sky Hawk is now covered by a registry - if you'd like to list your new project, shoot me an email as a PM and I'll send you the form - thanks!

jclary
06-27-2017, 07:39 AM
Looks like there should be an opportunity for a "sub-specialist" in vintage car hauling. Appropriately configured, with detailed planning/communication, legal contracting, equipment such as wenches, dolly's, tie downs, and and trained operator...it could be profitable. Probably slow going (at first), but by earning a good reputation, establishing a good record, serious collectors shouldn't mind paying the premium required for the service.

cavanbound
06-27-2017, 07:59 AM
I think that "sub-specialist" exists in a few forms, and has a good reputation. Forum members steered me to Peg's Transport - Peg has brokered successful hauls for many forum members, from the sound of it - but when I was in touch with her, she'd retired. She referred me to Megan, another broker, and I had good conversation with her. The basic balance is price-vs-quality. Megan was willing to broker the load, and she may have produced faster pick-up, less stress for me as a I wondered where my car was, and a more communicative process - but her quote (by her own words) was at a premium price - she specializes, knows collector cars, and uses select haulers, vs. the open market, where you take your chances. Looking back at my own experience, I'm unsure - would it have been advantageous to use Megan's service at higher rate? Or was it worth saving the dollars, and a few days of stress/uncertainty? I also quoted a local firm (MN) with LA routes, but enclosed shipping for that 1/2-way-across-the-country haul was 2.5X what I paid for open-trailer shipping. In the end, I think it's a balance for every buyer - what did you pay for the car, how anxious are you about getting it home, and what's your total investment in the vehicle when sitting in your garage?

Guido
06-27-2017, 08:15 AM
I am fortunate that I have a friend who owns a trucking company in Richmond. He has brought me cars, trucks and tractors from all across the US. Only needs a dock or rollback on the other end to load, I would pick up at the terminal here. I was interested in a Champ pickup in LA but was wary of the seller. I sent a cashier's check to the terminal manager there and after he inspected the truck and paperwork closed the deal.

You may find a LTL carrier to move it.

52-fan
06-27-2017, 08:21 AM
When Peg moved my car it cost an extra $150.00 because it wasn't running. There must be other shippers who will do that.

bumpkinvilledano
06-27-2017, 09:48 AM
Transportation costs vary wildly depending on where the load is going, and if the driver can get a load out from the location they are delivering to. Also it depends on demand; as demand goes up, so does the price. Example; 3 weeks ago I sent a flatbed of machinery from Atlanta to Minneapolis and the cost was $3500. Yesterday I got pricing to send machinery from Atlanta to Chicago and the price was $3700 each. My broker buddy told me that right now demand is high.

I looked into maybe doing specialized auto transport at one time. To set up with a minimum of an F-350 or equivalent (used), a 28 foot enclosed trailer, winches, tie downs, etc would have required an initial outlay of about $30K and that would only allow 1 car to be transported at a time. And you have to follow all the rules an OTR semi has to follow; DOT medical card, log books, safety equipment (triangles, fire extinguishers, etc), everything except a CDL. And if I remember correctly, you were limited to 26K gross, after that you needed a CDL. Regulations limit you to 11 hours (I think) of driving, so to make a long trip, you need 2 drivers. Neither driver is going to work for free, and I wouldn't trust some minimum wage schlub. In the end I decided that the return on investment just wasn't there.

tim333
06-27-2017, 09:53 AM
Chris, 954 278 3865. Brought a car to me here in Shorewood Illinois from Payson Az in March. Very reasonable and quick.

candbstudebakers
06-27-2017, 11:23 AM
Shipping is a problem in most cases with non running cars and any with extra parts. I have sold and shipped many cars and trucks over the years and found it best to deliver myself if I am going to an event anyway. Just last May took a 54 commander not running to S/B for buyer and what I charged him covered my trip there, used my motor home and my own trailer with 4 of us going and doing the driving, then on return trip we carried parts back west to cover some of the cost coming back no profit made but that was not what I planned on anyway just going and helping things get done. Here again I did sell the original 54 so it was a win win for both party's. The nice thing about doing it this way also helped the people going with me as they paid nothing of very little of the trip since the Studebaker items covered that, 2 of the people came from out of the country to make the trip so I figured their trip cost them more than most so this was my way of helping them save a little, both have been friends for years and have helped me in the past so it was my time to help them a little.

wittsend
06-27-2017, 12:04 PM
Years ago I looked into having a marginally functioning car shipped. After reading all the horror stories I just opted to get the car myself flying to the location and renting a U-Haul truck and trailer. Apparently a lot of these low cost shippers are networked together with trucks going here, there and everywhere. It seems a car can be on/off a number of trailers in the journey. So, a vehicle that doesn't run becomes a real problem. No one really wants to bother with it. I had even heard stories where a car got so far, was unloaded for another shipper to take - at their choosing. Apparently no one "chose" to take the car and it incurred storage fees sitting in the terminal yard. This may be a worse case scenario but I tell you as a caution.

That said, there are companies like U-Ship where there are people who bid to take your delivery needs. It was even the subject of a Reality TV show. You might find someone by that means, but I'd be cautious. I empathize with you. You are excited to get a car you have desired and then encounter the difficulty (and price) of actually getting it to you. It is like being told you can have a free two weeks on a secluded Pacific Island but then find the cost of getting there is $10,000!

studegary
06-27-2017, 07:39 PM
Looks like there should be an opportunity for a "sub-specialist" in vintage car hauling. Appropriately configured, with detailed planning/communication, legal contracting, equipment such as wenches, dolly's, tie downs, and and trained operator...it could be profitable. Probably slow going (at first), but by earning a good reputation, establishing a good record, serious collectors shouldn't mind paying the premium required for the service.

I like the idea of adding wenches to keep thing interesting, but you should also add a winch so as to not wear out the wenches (I couldn't resist.).

jclary
06-27-2017, 07:52 PM
I like the idea of adding wenches to keep thing interesting, but you should also add a winch so as to not wear out the wenches (I couldn't resist.).

Great...it's been a while Gary. I'll accept that as a sign of progress. Phonetically, 'cept for the drawl, either spelling works. My wife might have an objection to one of the definitions though.;)

riversidevw
06-28-2017, 07:08 PM
Agree that there's a market for carriers offering quality service for non-running cars. But I can also see it's a challenge for shippers. The first time I had a purchase shipped cross-country on an open truck, I had no idea that it was actually several different trucks operating out of several yards. The driver of the Intercity Lines premium closed carrier that recently took my long-owned '54 Lincoln to a new home in FL had to unload two beautiful and costly restored vintage sports cars in front of my house to position the Capri where they needed it in the trailer.

Edit: I actually suggested Intercity Lines to that buyer (son of the man I bought the car from 25 years earlier). Seriously nice original Lincoln. And I had just before found the brokers selling open transport may not all that much cheaper. If a really reputable carrier asks the added cost equivalent to a couple of tires for a non-running car, it's not unreasonable. And one online request for a quote from one broker brought a couple of weeks of nuisance emails and phone calls from all sorts of marginal operators. Real low-lifers.

I was too shy to mention John's wenches. But I did wonder just which of Dolly's attributes he was thinking about when he typed that post. Sorry, John... I much enjoy your posts for the right reasons! We all have moments of distraction. Also reminds me a little of the product of the "speech recognition" transcription that I was compelled to use at work for several years.

riversidevw
06-28-2017, 09:18 PM
Why are we so often fatally attracted to cars a continent away?

Wish you much success in this effort. I also very much liked the Sky Hawk. Nice blending of Hawk front styling with the great shape and distinctive detail touches of the Starliner. If I weren't retired (a form of unemployment), I'd suggest parking and perhaps misplacing it here in Riverside, saving you all this bother.

Please keep us updated.

Gil


Hi Guys. I was recently able to purchase one of my all time favorite Studebakers, A 56 Sky Hawk. That's the good part.