Curious if there is a survivor class. Probably bringing a nice original Super Hawk up this year.
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Is there a survivor class at the nationals this year?
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The only time a Survivor Class was tried was at the Atlantic Zone Meet in Gettysburg in 2011. I personally agree that it is a Class that needs ti be considered and added. It will bring many cars out of the woodwork, barns and garages that have no been seen for years.sigpicSee you in the future as I write about our past
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There was a survivor class 5 years ago at the South Bend National Meet. Vehicles to be presented as such had to register well ahead of time so research could be done by the judges. I believe Jim Pepper was in charge of it back then. As far as I know it has not been done again since that one time.Frank van Doorn
Omaha, Ne.
1962 GT Hawk 289 4 speed
1941 Champion streetrod, R-2 Powered, GM 200-4R trans.
1952 V-8 232 Commander State "Starliner" hardtop OD
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Originally posted by 41 Frank View PostThere was a survivor class 5 years ago at the South Bend National Meet. Vehicles to be presented as such had to register well ahead of time so research could be done by the judges. I believe Jim Pepper was in charge of it back then. As far as I know it has not been done again since that one time.
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Originally posted by 41 Frank View PostThere was a survivor class 5 years ago at the South Bend National Meet. Vehicles to be presented as such had to register well ahead of time so research could be done by the judges. I believe Jim Pepper was in charge of it back then. As far as I know it has not been done again since that one time.
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I met with a disappointed participant in the survivor class in SB. He did not have the proper documentation, that satisfied the judges, but claimed to have owned the car since new. Either he had no build sheet, or the build sheet didn't have all the required data. I've been a judge numerous times and from my perspective the car showed was original. We ask that judges defer to the owners with regards to originality in stock classes, but it seems to me that more documentation was being required for the survivors. I think that a better job has to be done to publicize when the service is available is available and what is required for documentation.
IMHO a great deal more has to be done to vet our original cars. As our cars have gone from drivers to historical icons, not enough has been done to encourage their owners to maintain the cars as original. My personal experience has been that putting and original car on a show field with restored cars, without the story of the original car being told, does that car a disservice. I would like to see a consistent vetting process at every international, but it doesn't look like it is going to happen. In lieu of proper judging, I think that a special area needs to be set aside for the original cars so that their stories can be better appreciated. This isn't going to do much for the guy that needs that judging form, but speaking from experience, it would better enhance appreciation for the car.-Bill
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My '33 Rockne is a true survivor. I had it judged at the 2008 Lancaster Meet, just to have that experience. As there was no "Survivor" class, it got judged right alongside the beautifully restored pre-war cars. I lost points for the condition of the paint, upholstery, chrome and engine compartment; but not a single point for authenticity or originality. That still garnered a Third in Class.
I believe the AACA class is called "Preservation", and there is some lesser percentage of the vehicle that can be repaired or replaced and still qualify in the class. Some day I'll have to run it by the AACA judges; just for the experience.Brad Johnson,
SDC since 1975, ASC since 1990
Pine Grove Mills, Pa.
'33 Rockne 10, '51 Commander Starlight. '53 Commander Starlight
'56 Sky Hawk in process
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I think a 'Daily Driver' class also needs to be considered. Frankly, are there any Studebakers more important than the few left that serve their original intended purpose....to provide dependable, economical everyday transportation in today's real world??
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Originally posted by SN-60 View PostI think a 'Daily Driver' class also needs to be considered. Frankly, are there any Studebakers more important than the few left that serve their original intended purpose....to provide dependable, economical everyday transportation in today's real world??
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