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Greenstude
04-05-2017, 06:09 PM
A very nice 1963 Avanti, R1630, was destroyed when rear-ended on Nova Scotia highway 101 in November 2016.

The car was the grand prize in the Keystone Chapter's annual raffle at the SDC International Meet in South Bend in 2002. Graham Gagné of Cook's Brook, Nova Scotia was the winner. (Graham was a founding member of the Atlantic Canada Chapter SDC in 1996, and has served as our editor ever since.)

Graham improved the car in many ways over the 12 years he and Katherine owned it. It was a very attractive beige colour. They drove it to many Chapter events.

In 2014, Graham sold the car as he has two other Studebakers. The new owner had long dreamed of owning an Avanti. Although aware of SDC and our Chapter, he chose not to join, so I do not have his name. He was seriously injured, having teeth knocked out and a broken leg. He credited the seat belt and roll bar with saving his life.

SN-60
04-05-2017, 06:43 PM
It's critically important to add a '3rd' brake light inside the rear window of a Studebaker Avanti at bottom OR top center..... Avanti tailights are quite small in comparison to what folks are used to seeing today, and difficult to see sometimes!

(Don't ask me how I know:eek:!!!)....Unless it's a 'trailer queen', as many Studebaker Avantis unfortunately now are,....ADD THAT 3RD TAILIGHT!!!!!!

JoeHall
04-05-2017, 07:23 PM
I have been running 3rd brake lights for about 20 years, in all Studes. Even so, I have met several folks in modern brand 'X' cars who were rear ended, or hit head on by texting drivers. In many accidents involving texters, there are no skid marks, because the texter does not even look up.

So even a neon sign on the rear of a Stude would not keep a texter from running into you. Sorry to hear of this guy's loss, but glad he survived.

8E45E
04-05-2017, 07:34 PM
I've been driving my Studebakers with the headlights ON at all times, even during the daytime. Starting in 1990, vehicles sold new in Canada have required Daytime Running Lights by law, and now people are so accustomed to seeing vehicles with the lights on all the time, other drivers will take left turns immediately in front of you, either oncoming, or from a side street.

Craig

SN-60
04-05-2017, 07:38 PM
I've been driving my Studebakers with the headlights ON at all times, even during the daytime. Starting in 1990, vehicles sold new in Canada have required Daytime Running Lights by law, and now people are so accustomed to seeing vehicles with the lights on all the time, other drivers will take left turns immediately in front of you, either oncoming, or from a side street.

Craig

Good thought!...And while we're mentioning lights, you folks out there still flogging 6 volt cars should keep your HIGH beams on at night, as they are normally about as bright as modern cars LOW beams...It helps to be seen! :)

Greenstude
04-05-2017, 08:06 PM
I do this as well. Also keep the headlights on in daytime while driving my modern car, which only has parking lights as daytime running lights.

As for inattentive drivers --- I was rear-ended one time while driving a 48-passenger school bus in slow traffic -- the other driver was on his cell phone. Another school bus here was rear-ended while stopped with the red lights flashing to pick up students -- by happy coincidence, a police car coming the other way was stopped in front of the bus, so the driver of the car got a very expensive ticket, probably followed by a significant increase in his insurance premiums.

63 R2 Hawk
04-05-2017, 08:30 PM
I had a lady rearend my Hawk several years ago while she was texting, then tried to sue me stating I had thrown my car into reverse and totaled her car and injured her passenger. Luckily for me there were witnesses. Only damage to my Hawk was the rear bumper and valence got bent a little and the original style oval exhaust tips got smashed. Her car was totaled.

packard352
04-06-2017, 08:46 AM
In the UK, it is illegal to use the cell phone and the Police will to confiscate a cell phone in an accident as the first thing they do. Needless to write, there are idiots out there that kill, maim and ruin families lives

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37823457

TWChamp
04-06-2017, 11:06 AM
In the UK, it is illegal to use the cell phone and the Police will to confiscate a cell phone in an accident as the first thing they do. Needless to write, there are idiots out there that kill, maim and ruin families lives

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-37823457

Yep, it was a young guy texting the other day that killed 13 people in Texas when he hit the bus head on. He lived and all but one on the bus died. Strange that Texas doesn't have a law against texting while driving.

colt45sa
04-06-2017, 11:18 AM
Good thought!...And while we're mentioning lights, you folks out there still flogging 6 volt cars should keep your HIGH beams on at night, as they are normally about as bright as modern cars LOW beams...It helps to be seen! :) They do make 6-volt halogen headlights you know~!

dleroux
04-06-2017, 09:47 PM
That's exactly why I installed Red LED lights in the rear lights of my '63 Avanti. I'm not sure if anyone even pays attention to the 3rd (CHMSL) lights anymore so I haven't gone that route. I used to walk to work, 4 miles each way & did so for almost 10 years. I finally had to give it up. There are too many distracted drivers, many of which I observed daily, & I thought it was ridiculous to have worked as long as I have and risk my retirement on testing a driver who ran a light or worse. I've seen too many incidents in those ten years to scare me into driving to work. I miss walking, however I look forward to retiring and being alive and able to walk somewhere more safe. NHTSA released its latest estimate based off of 2015 statistics and it states that 60% of the drivers on the roadway today are engaged in either talking or texting on cell phones. You got me started, but I think unless the U.S. wakes up & makes the penalties as severe for texting or talking while driving as we have for drinking while driving, we'll be hearing more of these horror stories. First offence for texting or talking while driving, lose the privledge of having a mobile device for two years. No different than a felon convicted of a crime with a handgun. If the convicted person has a cell phone after the first offense, prison time. Sorry, but until we come to agreement that this is a serious issue we'll be dealing with more carnage and thinking that the issue has no resolution. My $0.02 worth

StudeNewby
04-06-2017, 10:52 PM
I was rear-ended twice within a year in two different Studes. I've since sold the Lark, but installed magnetic-base towing lights on my Champ on the front lip of the bed. Got them at the South Bend swap meet last year...best five bucks I ever spent!

Mrs K Corbin
04-07-2017, 08:24 AM
Yeah, that ID10T in Texas should have his Thumbs removed with a choppin axe. I hate it for whoever owns the truck he was driving. They'll be sued for every penny.
I tried texting while driving once, only once.... That was enough. This moron was all over the road for several miles. With people dialing 911 and filming.
I wonder what kind of Mass-punishment we'll all have to suffer after this one.


Yep, it was a young guy texting the other day that killed 13 people in Texas when he hit the bus head on. He lived and all but one on the bus died. Strange that Texas doesn't have a law against texting while driving.

showbizkid
04-07-2017, 11:03 AM
Poor driving is an epidemic everywhere. Living here in California, I see A really excessive amount. Yesterday I was on the road most of the day, and I watch people run yellow and red lights, make a left and right turns from incorrect lanes, and travel in excess of 50 miles an hour in a school zone. It's insane.

52-fan
04-08-2017, 10:15 AM
I had a lady rearend my Hawk several years ago while she was texting, then tried to sue me stating I had thrown my car into reverse and totaled her car and injured her passenger. Luckily for me there were witnesses. Only damage to my Hawk was the rear bumper and valence got bent a little and the original style oval exhaust tips got smashed. Her car was totaled.

Reminds me of the driver that pulled too far forward at a stop light and then backed up too fast and crashed into my friend. My friends large truck was stopped dead still, but the other driver tried to say Marvin ran into her car. Fortunately, some people at a shop nearby saw the whole thing.

Guido
04-08-2017, 12:57 PM
Reminds me of the driver that pulled too far forward at a stop light and then backed up too fast and crashed into my friend. My friends large truck was stopped dead still, but the other driver tried to say Marvin ran into her car. Fortunately, some people at a shop nearby saw the whole thing.

Like the dog that bit me while I was running. A woman was walking it in the middle of the road and it lunged at me and bit me in the back of the thigh. When I stopped and confronted her she denied her dog had bitten me. I asked her how the hell did the teeth marks and blood get there if her dog had not done it?

SN-60
04-08-2017, 02:44 PM
Like the dog that bit me while I was running. A woman was walking it in the middle of the road and it lunged at me and bit me in the back of the thigh. When I stopped and confronted her she denied her dog had bitten me. I asked her how the hell did the teeth marks and blood get there if her dog had not done it?

You no doubt 'panicked' the dog:ohmy:...Next time slow to a walk when encountering that situation....or better yet, cross the street when you see a dog/owner approaching! ;)

Mrs K Corbin
04-10-2017, 07:58 AM
Just bite the Dog!

dleroux
04-10-2017, 08:58 AM
I did that to my Husky. Finally made him realize who was boss. Completely different dog after that and behaved himself until his very last day. Read up on it & as the saying goes, "This hurt me a lot more than it hurt you." A nip on the ear & that was it.

SScopelli
04-10-2017, 01:04 PM
I've been driving my Studebakers with the headlights ON at all times, even during the daytime. Starting in 1990, vehicles sold new in Canada have required Daytime Running Lights by law, and now people are so accustomed to seeing vehicles with the lights on all the time, other drivers will take left turns immediately in front of you, either oncoming, or from a side street.

Craig

These LEDs are pretty nice for the parking lights..

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2X-High-Power-5730-1157-Dual-Color-Switchback-LED-Turn-Signal-Light-Resistors-/391096132946?hash=item5b0f256552:g:EaEAAOSwYGFUsIdl&vxp=mtr

Super bright and a bit annoying even in the daytime because of the light frequency, but you will be noticed without having your headlights on..

They switch to amber when used in turn-signal mode..

You can wire the parking lights wire to the Acc post of the ignition switch and this way the light come on when you drive..

Greenstude
10-30-2017, 07:13 PM
A very nice 1963 Avanti, R1630, was destroyed when rear-ended on Nova Scotia highway 101 in November 2016. (Body number 63R-Q773)

The car was the grand prize in the Keystone Chapter's annual raffle at the SDC International Meet in South Bend in 2002. Graham Gagné of Cook's Brook, Nova Scotia was the winner. (Graham was a founding member of the Atlantic Canada Chapter SDC in 1996, and has served as our editor ever since.)

Graham improved the car in many ways over the 12 years he and Katherine owned it. It was a very attractive beige colour. They drove it to many Chapter events.

In 2014, Graham sold the car as he has two other Studebakers. The new owner had long dreamed of owning an Avanti. Although aware of SDC and our Chapter, he chose not to join, so I do not have his name. He was seriously injured, having teeth knocked out and a broken leg. He credited the seat belt and roll bar with saving his life.

- - - - - - -

The Avanti seemed to disappear into thin air, despite the efforts of some members of the Atlantic Canada Chapter SDC to find it.

Fast forward to Oct.23.2017 -- a member of the Chapter in Moncton, New Brunswick, received a phone call from a friend who is a car dealer in Amherst, Nova Scotia. The friend said he had been at the Copar Auction premises in Moncton, and saw "an old Studebaker like yours". By Oct.30.2017, the car had been bought, and delivered to the home of our member. He owns the only other 1963 Studebaker Avanti in our Chapter, a car with 150,000+ miles on it, and with a very tired engine.

Here are some pictures of the wreck:6820268203682046820568206

studegary
10-30-2017, 10:25 PM
It looks like doubling up on the tail/stop lights did not save it.

STEWDI
10-31-2017, 09:10 AM
l usually drive my Studes with headlites ON. But friends following me have told me that my brake lites do not always seem to work when stopping the car.

The brake lites DO work, but the car is a manual 3-speed, and l drive it mostly moderately and use engine braking to begin my anticipated stops, so the brake lites only come on close to the end of my stopping point, and maybe not at all if my use of the brake is very light (a function of using the OEM-style pressure switch, l guess) .

l'm in trouble!!

Any tricks of the trade the anyone has out there besides re-wiring the brake lies to a GM-style lever switch? l would like to keep the car stock, but, upon reflection, l may have to modify this so it's safer?

sweetolbob
10-31-2017, 09:56 AM
I've used this style for both brake lights and clutch safety switches for years. I like the adjustability and ease of wiring but others may like different ones. This is off a Daihatsu but if you are interested I'll locate a spare and get you the brand and number. I like the all metal bodies as I've had a couple of the plastic one break apart.

http://www.rockauto.com/info/903/1S5423__ra_p.jpg

Bob

fastjohnll
10-31-2017, 10:04 AM
Go to ebay, type in-- low pressure brake light switch

KOOL R2
10-31-2017, 11:54 AM
If anybody has designs on repairing the Avanti, I have an NOS driver side rear quarter panel for sale

spokejr
10-31-2017, 02:33 PM
From those pics, there looks to be a good front bumper, padded dash, descent seats and possibly headliner.

Somebody needs to scavenge these parts and others off before they deteriorate further!

Greenstude
10-31-2017, 03:48 PM
If anybody has designs on repairing the Avanti, I have an NOS driver side rear quarter panel for sale

This car is non-repairable due to severe frame damage. It is now owned by a Club member who will be salvaging everything that can be saved.

StudeRich
10-31-2017, 04:33 PM
Bob, it looks like your Post #24 was HACKED!! :mad:

sweetolbob
10-31-2017, 06:22 PM
Bob, it looks like your Post #24 was HACKED!! :mad:

Thanks Rich, Just picked that picture off the net, so now it's deleted. Not sure how that happened but I posted one from Rock Auto that should be good. Bob

r1lark
10-31-2017, 06:52 PM
I've used this style for both brake lights and clutch safety switches for years. I like the adjustability and ease of wiring but others may like different ones. This is off a Daihatsu but if you are interested I'll locate a spare and get you the brand and number. I like the all metal bodies as I've had a couple of the plastic one break apart.

http://www.rockauto.com/info/903/1S5423__ra_p.jpg

Bob

Bob, the brand and part number of what you have used would be really great. I agree wholeheartedly about using one with a metal body instead of a plastic one.

I'm getting ready to do this mod to my '64 Daytona so this is very timely. :)

r1lark
10-31-2017, 07:09 PM
I've used this style for both brake lights and clutch safety switches for years. I like the adjustability and ease of wiring but others may like different ones. This is off a Daihatsu but if you are interested I'll locate a spare and get you the brand and number. I like the all metal bodies as I've had a couple of the plastic one break apart.

http://www.rockauto.com/info/903/1S5423__ra_p.jpg

Bob

Bob, the brand and part number of what you have used would be really great. I agree wholeheartedly about using one with a metal body instead of a plastic one.

I'm getting ready to do this mod to my '64 Daytona so this is very timely. :)

sweetolbob
10-31-2017, 08:16 PM
Bob, the brand and part number of what you have used would be really great. I agree wholeheartedly about using one with a metal body instead of a plastic one. :)
Paul

Standard Motor Parts SLS101 should be it, about $8 to $9 on Ebay from any number of suppliers. The picture I posted is from a Daihatsu Charade that also looks promising from Rock Auto about $9. They come with one nut as they are made to screw into a threaded bracket. I went to the local hardware and found a second nut so it would work in a hole without threads. It's metric but I can't recall the thread.

Addendum - Hokey smoke, I just typed SLS101 into Rock Auto and found one listed for $3.04. FYI

Bob

r1lark
11-01-2017, 05:00 PM
Thanks Bob!!